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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 06:51 PM
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84. How about "hitsthenailtooclosetotheheadic"
But let me explain it in simpler terms.

Grown-ups have these things called "wills." They're so that when old people die, all of their money and property go to there loved ones. Usually children or other relatives.

Now nobody except for ignorant, lying, racist pricks believes that the actual slaves deserved reparations. Even just after the Civil War people believed that. But instead of paying the slaves what they deserved, the government decided they would rather spend money on things like Nathaniel Bedford Forrest statues and gallows.

Now if the freed slaves had gotten reparations, they probably would have spent it on things like acreage and mules. Instead, since they were broke, illiterate, and enslaved, they pretty much stayed that way after the war. They sold their souls to sharecroppers, not that they had the choice.

Now nobody except for ignorant, lying, racist pricks believes that if slaves had got reparations, they wouldn't will it to there decendants, who are still alive today. But instead of getting reparations, blacks have gotten nothing but 140 years of segregation, exploitation, lynchings, and Strom Thurmond. Clearly todays african americans are worse off because there were no reparations. And clearly the United States of America got away with theft.

So now here we've got the republican party. They say we should get rid of the inheritance tax. They say that the government has no right to keep dead peoples money, it should go to the families instead.

But obviously that has nothing to do with reparations.
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  -Let's revisit the "R" situation, shall we? CatWoman  Aug-05-03 05:20 PM   #0 
  - Of course there should be some kind of reparations for blacks.  chimpymustgo   Aug-05-03 05:23 PM   #1 
  - No.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:24 PM   #2 
  - care to expand?  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:27 PM   #4 
  - I am always insulted. . .  wndycty   Aug-05-03 05:30 PM   #6 
  - That type of attitude  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:32 PM   #8 
  - Most of the time when I disagree...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:35 PM   #9 
     - I think the majority of the people on the DU  wndycty   Aug-05-03 05:38 PM   #14 
  - I agree. No reparations. They will hurt race relations. (n/t)  w4rma   Aug-05-03 05:39 PM   #15 
     - Lack of reparations may hurt race relations. . .  wndycty   Aug-05-03 05:42 PM   #18 
     - How will reparations hurt race relations?  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:43 PM   #19 
        - CAN'T CHANGE HISTORY  blindpig   Aug-06-03 01:22 PM   #131 
  - We at least need an honest open dialogue on reparations  wndycty   Aug-05-03 05:25 PM   #3 
  - It won't happen.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:46 PM   #25 
     - But most arguments against reparations  wndycty   Aug-05-03 05:58 PM   #41 
        - Hunh?  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:18 PM   #59 
  - Ain't it funny.  DrWeird   Aug-05-03 05:28 PM   #5 
  - Helluva good point, Dr.  chimpymustgo   Aug-05-03 05:30 PM   #7 
     - It was?  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:35 PM   #11 
        - Yes, it was  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:43 PM   #21 
           - Would that be because...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:59 PM   #43 
              - You haven't been paying attention  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:04 PM   #47 
                 - Then I would point out that...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:15 PM   #55 
                    - How about "hitsthenailtooclosetotheheadic"  DrWeird   Aug-05-03 06:51 PM   #84 
                       - Wow...they've gotten nothing.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 07:01 PM   #92 
  - Is youse people tryin to get sumthin fer nuttin agin? (SARCASM)  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 05:35 PM   #10 
  - Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, and more blatent male bashing.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:36 PM   #13 
     - How is it male bashing to acknowledge that men have benefitted in the  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 05:40 PM   #17 
     - It isn't worth rebuting.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:52 PM   #34 
        - No it's that you are incapable...nice try  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 05:54 PM   #38 
           - Come up with something....  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:56 PM   #40 
              - NLP won't get you far, try controlling the debate with a point  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 06:27 PM   #73 
     - please.  ulysses   Aug-05-03 05:44 PM   #22 
        - LMAO  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:51 PM   #32 
           - well, no  ulysses   Aug-05-03 05:53 PM   #36 
           - No but you are callng names with no justification  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 05:53 PM   #37 
           - Why try?  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 05:59 PM   #42 
           - You began with two oneliners, accused me of male bashing and now  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 06:24 PM   #67 
              - No, I posted originally on this thread...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:28 PM   #75 
           - myself, I think that wage gap is nonsense  jafap   Aug-06-03 04:14 PM   #144 
           - wow, reactionary arent you?  drdigi420   Aug-06-03 05:41 PM   #150 
  - Interesting Topic...flame bait for sure!  LeftCoast   Aug-05-03 05:36 PM   #12 
  - The Gubmint.  DrWeird   Aug-05-03 05:43 PM   #20 
  - I did not mean for this to be flamebait  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:45 PM   #24 
  - How about businesses that profitted PAY and COMMUNITIES benefit  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-05-03 05:48 PM   #28 
  - That would probably help, but  LeftCoast   Aug-05-03 06:05 PM   #48 
  - After that, how much do you pay? Then who gets paid?  whoYaCallinAlib   Aug-05-03 05:51 PM   #33 
  - Here's where I have a problem with the idea of reparations..  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-05-03 05:39 PM   #16 
  - Payments are just a small part of the reparations issue.  DrWeird   Aug-05-03 05:44 PM   #23 
  - Didn't Clinton formerly apologize though?  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-05-03 05:50 PM   #31 
     - Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:06 PM   #50 
     - Apology first step in issue of reparations  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:14 PM   #52 
     - He apologized to Africa.  DrWeird   Aug-05-03 06:25 PM   #68 
  - I agree that it won't  ulysses   Aug-05-03 05:47 PM   #26 
     - I think that's a great idea  juajen   Aug-05-03 11:53 PM   #125 
  - No. That's not how it works.  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-05-03 05:48 PM   #27 
  - Well, gee Uncle Miltie  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:49 PM   #29 
     - It's part of the equation  sandnsea   Aug-05-03 06:15 PM   #54 
     - Here's why: Blacks get nothing. On the other hand,  CatWoman   Aug-07-03 08:15 PM   #162 
     - In that case...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:27 PM   #72 
     - It's all about perspective, that's why.  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-05-03 06:29 PM   #76 
        - If you want to talk about other groups, let's start a thread  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:34 PM   #77 
           - the question you asked:  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-05-03 07:04 PM   #94 
           - if that was your purpose then why the title about reparations?  bearfartinthewoods   Aug-06-03 02:46 PM   #133 
  - Slightly off-topic, but we often have such a short-term, ignorant view of  Snow   Aug-05-03 05:50 PM   #30 
  - I'd give money,land and an apology  Forkboy   Aug-05-03 05:53 PM   #35 
  - You know I LOATHE Godzilla  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 05:54 PM   #39 
     - Thats ok...no ones perfect  Forkboy   Aug-05-03 06:22 PM   #61 
  - American Indians first  mmm   Aug-05-03 06:01 PM   #44 
  - Now that...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:04 PM   #45 
  - But this conversation isn't about American Indians  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:06 PM   #49 
  - Ignoring that part of the equation...  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:13 PM   #51 
     - I'm not ignoring anything  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:16 PM   #56 
        - And that is one of the biggest problems.  DarkPhenyx   Aug-05-03 06:20 PM   #60 
        - I don't function that way  sandnsea   Aug-06-03 12:14 AM   #127 
           - i don't understand.....  bearfartinthewoods   Aug-06-03 03:04 PM   #138 
  - Indian Health Services Budget for 2004  molly   Aug-07-03 09:47 AM   #154 
  - i agree with the article  buddhamama   Aug-05-03 06:04 PM   #46 
  - The question is: who pays?  Redleg   Aug-05-03 06:14 PM   #53 
  - you're paying for the adventure in Iraq right now.  ulysses   Aug-05-03 06:17 PM   #58 
     - Did I say I was worried?  Redleg   Aug-05-03 06:23 PM   #64 
        - no, you didn't - my bad  ulysses   Aug-05-03 06:25 PM   #69 
           - I know who pays for that- working people who have been given  Redleg   Aug-05-03 06:28 PM   #74 
              - "What does the war have to do with reparations?"  ulysses   Aug-05-03 06:38 PM   #81 
                 - And I told you I oppose the war, I just didn't think it was relevant  Redleg   Aug-05-03 06:52 PM   #85 
                    - It's completely relevant. Costs is costs.  ulysses   Aug-05-03 07:01 PM   #93 
                       - How much did you pay for food this past week? "Costs is costs."  Redleg   Aug-05-03 07:08 PM   #95 
                          - around $110  ulysses   Aug-05-03 07:10 PM   #97 
                             - You said "costs is costs."  Redleg   Aug-05-03 07:16 PM   #98 
                                - my groceries aren't paid out of the communal tax base.  ulysses   Aug-05-03 07:29 PM   #100 
                                   - Then you admit "costs aren't always costs."  Redleg   Aug-05-03 07:42 PM   #102 
  - How to begin is the real issue  Capn Sunshine   Aug-05-03 06:17 PM   #57 
  - Never mind  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 06:23 PM   #63 
     - Can I watch or do I have to choose up sides?  Capn Sunshine   Aug-05-03 06:55 PM   #86 
        - I think there's only one "r" in mirar  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 06:56 PM   #87 
  - At my peril, I oppose them. And I've been here a while and anyone who  karlschneider   Aug-05-03 06:22 PM   #62 
  - ok, but that isn't the issue  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 06:26 PM   #70 
  - at my peril  kymar57   Aug-05-03 07:29 PM   #99 
     - at my peril  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 07:47 PM   #103 
  - to answer your question  jagguy   Aug-05-03 06:24 PM   #65 
  - this i have to hear  buddhamama   Aug-05-03 06:37 PM   #80 
     - I'm pretty interested in this phenomena as well  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:58 PM   #89 
     - mules are cool !  jagguy   Aug-05-03 10:34 PM   #111 
     - look at virtually every employment ad  jagguy   Aug-05-03 10:33 PM   #110 
        - I'm sorry -- I couldn't get past the EEOC  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 10:37 PM   #112 
        - but its still there  jagguy   Aug-05-03 10:51 PM   #117 
           - I could tell you some stories  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 11:05 PM   #119 
              - And at a bank here just the opposite is true  jagguy   Aug-05-03 11:29 PM   #121 
                 - but.................but.......................but  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 11:35 PM   #124 
                    - I'm white female who  juajen   Aug-06-03 12:21 AM   #128 
                    - As you see  jagguy   Aug-06-03 02:53 PM   #134 
        - Here is a recent study about hiring/resumes and the disadvantage  salin   Aug-07-03 01:01 PM   #161 
  - this country's countless racist policies?  Yentatelaventa   Aug-05-03 06:24 PM   #66 
  - why don't you read the article  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:37 PM   #79 
  - Done and zero mention of ANY current policy - much less countless.  Yentatelaventa   Aug-05-03 08:53 PM   #105 
     - I find it troubling  jagguy   Aug-05-03 10:41 PM   #113 
     - And PAINFULLY sticking in black peoples necks like a gusher  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 11:30 PM   #122 
     - Enlighten me, please  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 11:32 PM   #123 
     - if you survive this thread,.....  bearfartinthewoods   Aug-06-03 03:50 PM   #143 
        - I appreciate the advice  jagguy   Aug-06-03 04:22 PM   #146 
        - I provided details in my original post  CatWoman   Aug-06-03 08:07 PM   #151 
           - Still looking for a link to "countless" current racist policies  Yentatelaventa   Aug-07-03 06:07 AM   #152 
              - it is institutionalized  buddhamama   Aug-07-03 06:40 AM   #153 
                 - few more  CatWoman   Aug-07-03 12:10 PM   #155 
     - do yourself a favor -- read this book  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 11:59 PM   #126 
        - I could give the same advice  jagguy   Aug-06-03 03:02 PM   #137 
  - The Drug War  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 07:00 PM   #91 
  - Well, maybe money isn't the answer...  LeviathanCrumbling   Aug-05-03 06:26 PM   #71 
  - About no living slaves  mandyky   Aug-05-03 06:34 PM   #78 
  - Don't base it on race.  gulliver   Aug-05-03 06:44 PM   #82 
  - A few questions for anyone who cares to answer  slackmaster   Aug-05-03 06:50 PM   #83 
  - So many questions --  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 06:57 PM   #88 
  - #4  Terwilliger   Aug-05-03 06:59 PM   #90 
  - There is no legal basis in support of reparations for slavery  Walt Starr   Aug-05-03 07:09 PM   #96 
  - I agree about Whites benefitting from racist system but  cat_girl25   Aug-05-03 07:37 PM   #101 
  - As a hispanic I say NO  Blue_Chill   Aug-05-03 07:55 PM   #104 
  - Reparations? Yes!  LoverOfLiberty   Aug-05-03 09:20 PM   #106 
  - if....  deseo   Aug-05-03 09:51 PM   #107 
  - Yes.  alaine   Aug-05-03 10:01 PM   #108 
  - I'm for them in theory but it opens up a whole can of worms  John_H   Aug-05-03 10:18 PM   #109 
  - I prefer other types of reparations  SyracuseDemocrat   Aug-05-03 10:43 PM   #114 
  - AS DO I !!!!!!!!  CatWoman   Aug-05-03 10:46 PM   #115 
  - That I can definitely agree with.  ibegurpard   Aug-06-03 12:23 AM   #129 
  - That's what the reparations people want  sangha   Aug-06-03 02:54 PM   #135 
     - You're WRONG - read Randall Robinson  dymaxia   Aug-06-03 03:31 PM   #141 
        - No, I'm right. You misunderstood.  sangha   Aug-07-03 12:12 PM   #156 
           - I am one such person  CatWoman   Aug-07-03 12:21 PM   #157 
           - Oh, OK  dymaxia   Aug-07-03 12:32 PM   #158 
  - In reference to my earlier post,  SyracuseDemocrat   Aug-05-03 10:47 PM   #116 
  - Sure! I'm all for reparations.  MUAD_DIB   Aug-05-03 10:57 PM   #118 
  - The right way to do reparations...  fabius   Aug-05-03 11:23 PM   #120 
     - the way I look at it  dymaxia   Aug-06-03 03:35 PM   #142 
  - Yes, CatWoman  dmr   Aug-06-03 12:33 AM   #130 
  - I support the concept of reparations  noonwitch   Aug-06-03 01:40 PM   #132 
  - That's what the reparations people want also  sangha   Aug-06-03 02:55 PM   #136 
  - Does anybody think this is a winning issue for the democrats?  whoYaCallinAlib   Aug-06-03 03:08 PM   #139 
  - You are not talking about reparations  Nederland   Aug-06-03 03:26 PM   #140 
  - No  ArkDem   Aug-06-03 04:15 PM   #145 
  - It's genetically and historically untenable, because...  carolinayellowdog   Aug-06-03 04:30 PM   #147 
  - Racism is a system of expoitation, not a personality quirk.  damnraddem   Aug-06-03 04:48 PM   #148 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-06-03 05:34 PM   #149 
  - I want reparations for all gay people.  DemLikr   Aug-07-03 12:38 PM   #159 
  - Yes whites, particularly white men, have been  Clete   Aug-07-03 12:46 PM   #160 
 

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