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Thu Aug-07-03 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 170. What the #@%&* do you mean by "allows?" |
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We have freedom of speech and freedom of religion in this country (so far; at least we're supposed to.) The rest of us can't keep Falwell, Roberts et al. from speaking out and defining what they say as "the Christian position."
The real problem is that the news media echo this approach. Seldom do they refer to more liberal denominations or spokespeople as Christian. This is fairly recent. In the 60s, with its anti-war activism and theological ferment, "Christian" was used all across the spectrum.
Once again we've lost out to the conservatives' tactics of defining the terms.
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| -What religions are represented here in DU? |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 02:35 PM |
#0 |
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Other - All of the above |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 02:36 PM |
#1 |
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Sorry, |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 02:40 PM |
#2 |
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No offense taken. |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 02:51 PM |
#19 |
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Don't forget Shinto |
jagguy |
Aug-06-03 02:46 PM |
#8 |
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With the exception of eastern orthodox, |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 02:48 PM |
#11 |
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probably so |
jagguy |
Aug-06-03 03:06 PM |
#42 |
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Santaria, from Haiti |
SpikeTrees |
Aug-06-03 03:08 PM |
#44 |
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Yeah, I will probably catch hell for that (legitimately)... |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 03:15 PM |
#53 |
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Its ok |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:22 PM |
#60 |
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Voudon |
dirk |
Aug-06-03 03:31 PM |
#69 |
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Really? |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:37 PM |
#72 |
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heh |
dymaxia |
Aug-06-03 04:07 PM |
#87 |
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Because it's a complete fabrication |
dirk |
Aug-07-03 09:21 AM |
#145 |
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So are other religions |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 10:56 AM |
#152 |
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If atheism is a religion... |
trotsky |
Aug-06-03 02:41 PM |
#3 |
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I think that a lot of atheists would probably take issue with that. |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 02:43 PM |
#5 |
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then they wouldnt be atheists |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 02:50 PM |
#15 |
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Possible alternates |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:02 PM |
#35 |
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It is not a religion, but it is a choice of religion |
bryant69 |
Aug-06-03 02:44 PM |
#6 |
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BZZZZZZZZZT |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 02:48 PM |
#12 |
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What's curious |
bryant69 |
Aug-06-03 02:51 PM |
#18 |
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As demonstrated |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 02:53 PM |
#21 |
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and it isnt...as opposed to you god-pods...who must have religion |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:02 PM |
#33 |
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Hmmmm I'm a God-Pod? |
bryant69 |
Aug-06-03 03:26 PM |
#65 |
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I can |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:19 PM |
#102 |
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what belief are you referring to? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:01 PM |
#32 |
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"Atheism is not a religion" |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 03:02 PM |
#34 |
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I dont remember it...I just said it |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:02 PM |
#36 |
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explain orthodox atheism .... |
Trajan |
Aug-06-03 03:08 PM |
#45 |
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I'm an agnostic, and I consider it a religious position. |
damnraddem |
Aug-06-03 02:55 PM |
#24 |
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From dictionary.com: |
trotsky |
Aug-06-03 03:26 PM |
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I would argue that it is a principle. |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 03:38 PM |
#73 |
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It is a principle for some groups |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:42 PM |
#77 |
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Well then, present your argument. |
trotsky |
Aug-06-03 04:13 PM |
#90 |
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Principle: |
thom1102 |
Aug-07-03 08:36 AM |
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Wow. I can look up definitions too. |
theemu |
Aug-07-03 01:19 PM |
#191 |
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That depends on the atheist: |
damnraddem |
Aug-06-03 02:51 PM |
#17 |
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3) 2 does not apply because atheists don't believe in "no-god" |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:15 PM |
#54 |
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Despite common belief |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:33 PM |
#112 |
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Atheist vs Agnostic |
Nederland |
Aug-07-03 08:48 AM |
#142 |
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atheists do not "believe" that there is no god |
Terwilliger |
Aug-07-03 11:17 AM |
#162 |
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well lets see what the dictionary says |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:52 AM |
#185 |
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While that's technically true |
rock |
Aug-06-03 02:53 PM |
#20 |
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yep but it has to appear in statistics |
termo |
Aug-06-03 03:34 PM |
#70 |
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Oh, I agree. |
trotsky |
Aug-06-03 04:16 PM |
#91 |
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Since your problem is with the wording of the question... |
thom1102 |
Aug-07-03 11:45 AM |
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I would buy that. |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 03:42 PM |
#74 |
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i see your point |
chomskyite2 |
Aug-06-03 03:58 PM |
#83 |
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Episcopal |
jagguy |
Aug-06-03 02:42 PM |
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The Anglican community considers itself catholic |
TrogL |
Aug-06-03 02:50 PM |
#16 |
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Actually, Most Protestant Churches Consider Themselves to be Catholic |
outinforce |
Aug-06-03 02:56 PM |
#25 |
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Atheism isn't a religion |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 02:45 PM |
#7 |
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More atheist angels. |
damnraddem |
Aug-06-03 02:56 PM |
#26 |
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excuse me , but what the fuck are you talking about? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:11 PM |
#47 |
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It was a strange mind-experiment theologists |
Snow |
Aug-06-03 03:42 PM |
#75 |
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Its a way of saying |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:44 PM |
#78 |
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A moose because a vest has no sleeves? |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-06-03 03:53 PM |
#82 |
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Bzzzzt |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:00 PM |
#31 |
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"...religions that don't mandate..." |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:07 PM |
#43 |
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Wrong Einstein |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 03:11 PM |
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The Dalai Lama knows god now? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:14 PM |
#51 |
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Doubtful, because |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:15 PM |
#52 |
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Yet sangha...an ardent god-pod...uses this quote as a reason that atheists |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:18 PM |
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Az is a very smart person |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 03:24 PM |
#64 |
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Don't know about that |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:29 PM |
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It's not a relevant question ...at least that's what the Buddha said... |
Kanzeon |
Aug-06-03 05:37 PM |
#113 |
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My interpretation |
Suspicious |
Aug-06-03 07:14 PM |
#124 |
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Agreed |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:12 PM |
#49 |
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so Buddhism is a belief, or a way of life? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:20 PM |
#58 |
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Unfortunately language is flexible |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:26 PM |
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like homosexuals |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 07:35 PM |
#126 |
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Anything can constitute a religion |
Az |
Aug-06-03 07:51 PM |
#130 |
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a religion was a successful sect... |
termo |
Aug-06-03 03:42 PM |
#76 |
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Yes, and no and both and neither... |
Kanzeon |
Aug-06-03 05:38 PM |
#114 |
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You've been practicing your kohns |
Az |
Aug-06-03 05:43 PM |
#115 |
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"secular Christian" |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-06-03 02:47 PM |
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Ain't it great to find others of similar thought... |
NeonLX |
Aug-07-03 10:29 AM |
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Mixed |
tkulesa |
Aug-06-03 02:47 PM |
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Other: Cthulhu |
acerbic |
Aug-06-03 02:49 PM |
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Other interesting created religions |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:10 PM |
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I find the idea of a fictional religion funny in a sort of redundant way |
acerbic |
Aug-06-03 03:19 PM |
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You definately want to read |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:46 PM |
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Your categories are not mutually exclusive, ... |
damnraddem |
Aug-06-03 02:49 PM |
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Other |
rogerashton |
Aug-06-03 02:54 PM |
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Hermetic Unitarian Universalist Wiccan Gnostic Taoist |
khephra |
Aug-06-03 03:20 PM |
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" I think the Bahai faith is probably the only revealed liberal religion. |
Snow |
Aug-06-03 03:45 PM |
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Oh, wait, sorry - Quaker is not a revealed religion, |
Snow |
Aug-07-03 10:43 AM |
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Religion? |
Birthmark |
Aug-06-03 02:55 PM |
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That depends. |
damnraddem |
Aug-06-03 02:58 PM |
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Is that the one... |
Birthmark |
Aug-06-03 03:04 PM |
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What? Raelian not listed? |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-06-03 02:57 PM |
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Checked atheism but technically |
Az |
Aug-06-03 02:58 PM |
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I am Atheist; I have no religion or religious beliefs. |
mrmcd |
Aug-06-03 02:59 PM |
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You failed to mention |
MUAD_DIB |
Aug-06-03 03:03 PM |
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Egads!! I've created a monster!!! |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 03:03 PM |
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Excuse me but the proper statement is |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:05 PM |
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I am a member of the "Catholic Alumni Association" |
SpikeTrees |
Aug-06-03 03:04 PM |
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LOL that's a good one. |
JVS |
Aug-06-03 05:19 PM |
#103 |
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Had to vote --other |
Marymarg |
Aug-06-03 03:13 PM |
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No wonder DU is so anti christian |
Fescue4u |
Aug-06-03 03:18 PM |
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It's the B-Sharps! "Atheists on board...atheists on board..." |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 03:22 PM |
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B-Sharps? |
Fescue4u |
Aug-06-03 03:59 PM |
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The Simpsons |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 07:26 PM |
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Atheist does not equal Anti Christian |
Az |
Aug-06-03 03:34 PM |
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You have alot of good points.. |
Fescue4u |
Aug-06-03 03:59 PM |
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Atheists are tolerant of tolerant theists. |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-06-03 04:10 PM |
#88 |
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That's bullshit |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 04:25 PM |
#93 |
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To bad |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-06-03 04:35 PM |
#95 |
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Too Bad? Fuck that! |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 06:33 PM |
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I think what he may be trying to suggest is |
Az |
Aug-06-03 06:44 PM |
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Get me on CNN |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:38 AM |
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Anti-Christian? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 07:47 PM |
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god-pod? That's lame even for you |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:37 AM |
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By doing more than whispering under your breath |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-07-03 09:04 AM |
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Be reasonable |
sangha |
Aug-07-03 09:29 AM |
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I am being reasonable |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-07-03 10:25 AM |
#149 |
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No, you're not reasonable |
sangha |
Aug-07-03 11:50 AM |
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No |
Brian Sweat |
Aug-07-03 12:58 PM |
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such language from a christian! do you kiss your mom with that mouth? |
mopaul |
Aug-07-03 10:10 AM |
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Yawn old tactic |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:39 AM |
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They arent the voice constantly |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:03 AM |
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I don't bring it up |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:40 AM |
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you see what you want to see |
bloom |
Aug-07-03 11:11 AM |
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too bad |
Terwilliger |
Aug-07-03 11:21 AM |
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I can safely say that Quakers do renouce HATRED, IGNORANCE, AND INTOLERANC |
bloom |
Aug-07-03 11:48 AM |
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What an ignorant statement |
Character Assassin |
Aug-07-03 11:25 AM |
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The concept being conveyed |
Az |
Aug-07-03 11:30 AM |
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What the #@%&* do you mean by "allows?" |
shimmergal |
Aug-07-03 11:32 AM |
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Thats some mote you got there n/t |
Az |
Aug-06-03 05:18 PM |
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preaching about other's preaching |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:26 PM |
#108 |
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Hello there preacher man! |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 06:34 PM |
#120 |
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silly |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:09 AM |
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Sure you do |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:44 AM |
#179 |
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Hey...that cross is disrespectful...get rid of it |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 07:44 PM |
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Anti-theists are the problem not Atheists. |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 04:20 PM |
#92 |
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too much to ask for you theists to respect |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:28 PM |
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Respect anti-theist? That isn't possible. |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 06:35 PM |
#121 |
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o the hypocrisy |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:08 AM |
#156 |
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I'm sorry but your facts are wrong |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:46 AM |
#181 |
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look honey, you get what you give |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 07:50 PM |
#129 |
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where do you see anywhere on DU, an attack on atheism? |
Cheswick |
Aug-07-03 09:17 AM |
#144 |
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Yes, all the time |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:11 AM |
#159 |
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did you see my first post in this thread? |
Terwilliger |
Aug-07-03 11:24 AM |
#166 |
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while Christians and Jews disagree on some theology |
Cheswick |
Aug-07-03 08:44 AM |
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do you mean only religious people are tolerant ??? |
termo |
Aug-06-03 03:47 PM |
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No wonder DU is so anti-christian |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:24 PM |
#105 |
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Preach on brotha! |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-06-03 06:36 PM |
#122 |
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broken record |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:10 AM |
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Rove? LoL! |
Blue_Chill |
Aug-07-03 11:48 AM |
#183 |
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I never made an assertion that any religion follows any party |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 11:55 AM |
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Buddhahist? nt |
catpower2000 |
Aug-06-03 03:23 PM |
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okay, I fixed my typo...sorry |
thom1102 |
Aug-06-03 03:30 PM |
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In my case.. |
ewagner |
Aug-06-03 03:23 PM |
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No Hinduism? |
liberalpragmatist |
Aug-06-03 03:58 PM |
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I find a lot in common |
Az |
Aug-06-03 05:15 PM |
#98 |
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Two seed-in-the-spirit predestinarian baptist. |
bemildred |
Aug-06-03 04:13 PM |
#89 |
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Large percentage of atheists/agnostics |
SyracuseDemocrat |
Aug-06-03 04:27 PM |
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This is a more intelligent sampling of the pop. |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:25 PM |
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DUers: The few -- the thoughtful. (NT) |
Atlant |
Aug-06-03 05:26 PM |
#109 |
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About 27% of Americans are agnostic/atheists |
flyingfish |
Aug-06-03 05:52 PM |
#118 |
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Philosophy - Sabaean |
yankeeinlouisiana |
Aug-06-03 04:50 PM |
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Church of the Subgenius |
activationproducts |
Aug-06-03 04:54 PM |
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It should |
drdigi420 |
Aug-06-03 05:27 PM |
#110 |
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Polytheist here |
election_2004 |
Aug-06-03 05:15 PM |
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Na |
Az |
Aug-06-03 05:17 PM |
#100 |
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I converted to Atheism, but was raised as a Lutheran, Missouri Synod- |
MiltonLeBerle |
Aug-06-03 05:23 PM |
#104 |
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I'm an athieistic agnostic. |
ryharrin |
Aug-06-03 05:25 PM |
#107 |
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Other: Orthodox Christian - earlier forms of Christianity |
frankzappa |
Aug-06-03 05:44 PM |
#116 |
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non practicing |
John_H |
Aug-07-03 11:00 AM |
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Uhm, there are over half a BILLION Hindus.... |
devarsi |
Aug-06-03 05:49 PM |
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I chose the religions based on my own personal experience |
thom1102 |
Aug-07-03 07:58 AM |
#135 |
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No Sikhs, either... |
NeonLX |
Aug-07-03 08:38 AM |
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Other = Church Of Satan |
LuCifer |
Aug-06-03 07:52 PM |
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By any chance |
Az |
Aug-06-03 07:54 PM |
#133 |
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er? |
LuCifer |
Aug-07-03 11:17 AM |
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I want to know who the Mormons are! |
ibegurpard |
Aug-06-03 07:53 PM |
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Yikes |
Az |
Aug-06-03 07:56 PM |
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Mormon and Democrat |
Isere |
Aug-07-03 10:01 AM |
#147 |
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Nevada's Senator Harry Reid is a Democrat and a Mormon. |
shimmergal |
Aug-07-03 11:40 AM |
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me |
sujan |
Aug-07-03 11:32 AM |
#171 |
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ELCA Lutheran, with a healthy agnostic streak |
NeonLX |
Aug-07-03 08:33 AM |
#136 |
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My other |
mandyky |
Aug-07-03 08:41 AM |
#139 |
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I´m an ordained Deacon of the Church Of Satan |
Vernunft |
Aug-07-03 08:46 AM |
#141 |
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Atheism isnt a religion |
Mari333 |
Aug-07-03 11:00 AM |
#154 |
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Okay, actually read through the thread before you |
thom1102 |
Aug-07-03 11:21 AM |
#164 |
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Sorry, I dont allow strangers to "give me orders". |
Mari333 |
Aug-07-03 01:02 PM |
#190 |
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atheist |
tpub |
Aug-07-03 11:12 AM |
#161 |
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Agnostic, but Hindu background |
varun |
Aug-07-03 11:27 AM |
#168 |
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i voted agnostic, but.. |
LS_Webmaster |
Aug-07-03 11:35 AM |
#172 |
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A Unitarian Universalist Buddhist who Likes the Teachings of Christ |
deutsey |
Aug-07-03 11:43 AM |
#178 |
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Student of Zen for many years. |
Character Assassin |
Aug-07-03 12:03 PM |
#187 |
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Seems like most people on DU profess to some religious belief |
flyingfish |
Aug-07-03 12:49 PM |
#188 |