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18. I think NC Securiy could be "Blackwater, USA." You think DynCorp is Creepy
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 01:51 PM by KoKo01
Check out this group that I've never heard of. This might be the Private Security Firm from NC. So far, doing a deep search I came up with this group. (and btw, in search, found out DynCorp is now doing our EPA testing and Waste Water Treament testing in NC. DynCorp the company that was fined for spraying deadly chemicals on Columbians...just the folks I want handling EPA and our NC wastewater treatment) This is making me sick. Anyway here's the info on "Blackwater." (what a name!)

Soldiers of good fortune

They fly helicopters, guard military bases and provide reconnaissance. They're private military companies--and they're replacing U.S. soldiers in the war on terrorism

B Y B A R R Y Y E O M A N

At a remote tactical training camp in a North Carolina swamp, six U.S. sailors are gearing up for their part in President Bush's war on terrorism. Dressed in camouflage on a January afternoon, they wear protective masks and carry nine-millimeter Berettas that fire nonlethal bullets filled with colored soap. Their mission: recapture a ship--actually a three-story-high model constructed of gray steel cargo containers--from armed hijackers.

July 23, 2003
C O V E R F E A T U R E
The men approach the front of the vessel in formation, weapons drawn, then silently walk the length of the ship. Suddenly, as they turn the corner, two "terrorists" spring out from behind a plywood barricade and storm the sailors, guns blazing. The trainees, who have instinctively crowded together, prove easy pickings: Though they outnumber their enemy 3-to-1, every one of them gets hit. They return from the ambush with heads hung, covered in pink dye.


Photo By Emily Sorry can't get photo to link



A car blasted in a training exercise run by Blackwater USA, which trains soldiers and civilians who guard government buildings around the world.
"You had people hiding behind their teammates!" barks their instructor, Tony Torres, a compact man with freckles and salt-and-pepper hair. "That's as shameful a thing as I can think of. That's fucked up. That's just fucked up." When approaching a "bad guy," Torres reminds them, a unit must move aggressively, fanning out to divert the terrorists' attention. "You guys need to get your shit together," he scolds. "There's not a lot of cover in this structure. The only thing to do is move toward your threat."

The men listen attentively. They know that Torres, a Navy vet, honed his skills during nine years in the service, performing search-and-rescue operations and providing nuclear-weapons security. But Torres no longer works for the military. These days he is an employee of Blackwater USA, a private company that contracts with the U.S. armed forces to train soldiers and guard government buildings around the world. Every day, the Navy sends chartered buses full of trainees 25 miles from Naval Station Norfolk, the world's largest naval base, to the company's 5,200-acre facility in Moyock, N.C. Last fall, Blackwater signed a $35.7 million contract with the Pentagon to train more than 10,000 sailors from Virginia, Texas, and California each year in "force protection." Other contracts are so secret, says Blackwater president Gary Jackson, that he can't tell one federal agency about the business he's doing with another.


http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2003-07-23/cover.html
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  -Dyncorp Primer.. Our media needs some help.. Should we help them? SoCalDem  Mar-31-04 12:25 PM   #0 
  - Don't forget to add Vinell Corp. to that list  plurality   Mar-31-04 12:30 PM   #1 
  - SoCal, I just questioned in another post whether Falujan's had a  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 12:44 PM   #2 
  - That's why I started this.. hoping that we could all add links  SoCalDem   Mar-31-04 12:46 PM   #3 
  - here's one  plurality   Mar-31-04 12:52 PM   #5 
  - and another  plurality   Mar-31-04 12:53 PM   #6 
  - Google reveals tons of info on Dyncorp and Vinell, here's a few more:  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 12:59 PM   #7 
  - that's certainly true  plurality   Mar-31-04 12:48 PM   #4 
  - Yep, I think this was "revenge" and not just some bloodthirsty Saddam  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 01:01 PM   #8 
  - Question...  theHandpuppet   Mar-31-04 01:06 PM   #9 
  - no, but it's common for CIA employees  plurality   Mar-31-04 01:10 PM   #10 
  - Ah, okay -- I thought something was fishy, here  theHandpuppet   Mar-31-04 01:20 PM   #12 
     - It's all about 'plausible deniability'  plurality   Mar-31-04 01:33 PM   #16 
        - Speaking of "spin"  theHandpuppet   Mar-31-04 02:09 PM   #23 
  - Dyncorp IS ....CIA  SoCalDem   Mar-31-04 01:15 PM   #11 
  - Maybe NOT Security Contractors! Check this out! "Research Triangle Inst.  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 01:21 PM   #13 
  - but you're missing something  plurality   Mar-31-04 01:29 PM   #14 
  - No, further digging showed it might be creepy "Blackwater, USA" NC firm..  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 01:47 PM   #19 
     - that sounds more likely  plurality   Mar-31-04 01:54 PM   #21 
  - It doesn't sound as if...  theHandpuppet   Mar-31-04 01:29 PM   #15 
  - CSC DynCorp & the Economics of Lawlessness  althecat   Mar-31-04 01:39 PM   #17 
  - I think NC Securiy could be "Blackwater, USA." You think DynCorp is Creepy  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 01:44 PM   #18 
  - and a different article suggested that they "collect child support"  SoCalDem   Mar-31-04 01:48 PM   #20 
  - Here's some kind of military site, which shows the 6,000 acre training  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 02:00 PM   #22 
     - 6,000 Acre Base to Train Private Army here in NC! Ck out their Website!  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 02:17 PM   #24 
        - More photo's and description of training facilities "The Shoot House!"  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 02:23 PM   #25 
        - Check out their "Pro Shop"  m-jean03   Mar-31-04 08:38 PM   #33 
  - kick  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 04:34 PM   #26 
  - warbusiness  seemslikeadream   Mar-31-04 04:55 PM   #27 
  - "Seems Like" I know what you are talking about...you need to do Separate  KoKo01   Mar-31-04 05:12 PM   #28 
  - Thank you so much  seemslikeadream   Mar-31-04 05:43 PM   #30 
  - Great info.. Now ..send the thread url to every journalist you can ..  SoCalDem   Mar-31-04 05:19 PM   #29 
     - Thanks to you too!  seemslikeadream   Mar-31-04 05:43 PM   #31 
  - My Family Secret: My 2nd Cousin Is "Security Expert" for Dynacorp  TahitiNut   Mar-31-04 06:05 PM   #32 
  - Sex slaves, dope, assassinations-lots of other money to be made  bobthedrummer   Mar-31-04 09:06 PM   #34 
  - Media kick  bobthedrummer   Mar-31-04 09:34 PM   #35 
     - and another  Karenina   Apr-01-04 03:19 AM   #36 
 

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