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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #15
26. A challenge and an opportunity...
I learn exactly what conservatives think and believe, I compare my beliefs to theirs, it encourages me to research their opinions and facts for myself and discover whether they are valid or not.

I have become a more well-rounded, critical thinker because I have not outright rejected views that are uncomfortable to me.


In answer to your final question, I don't think that others always do share your approach.

It is important to listen carefully to right-winger call-ins in order to try to understand where these folks are coming from. At the same time, I am afraid that for other listeners the act of hearing someone else put into words a feeling that they may have had but been afraid to express for fear of social sanctions will now encourage them to put those thoughts and random feelings into words and to act upon them. IOW, right-wing talk radio reinforces and supports concepts and actions that work to disunite and set groups against one another.

I also doubt that right-wingers who might tune in to a liberal radio station would be so open-minded and inquiring as you are.

For that reason, I would hope that liberal radio would not turn into "more of same" but just from the other side of the aisle. I think liberals need to LISTEN more than they talk sometimes, so we can hear the right-wing concerns and then, once we really do understand, offer an alternative that the right-wing can accept... or at least see possibilities with.

I'm not trying to pick on you over words here, because this internet medium does permit misunderstandings, but I also see a problem with researching their opinions and facts to see if they are valid or not. Whether they are valid or not in fact, they are valid to the speaker of those opinions and "facts."

Rather than attempting to "convert" anyone, I think our task is to reframe the opinions and facts somewhat... to say "how can we address your concern on this or that while at the same time accomplishing a goal that we both see as desirable."
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  -Is America a better or worse country for talk radio? John BigBootay  Mar-30-04 12:45 PM   #0 
  - we'll see after tomorrow  Independent429   Mar-30-04 12:48 PM   #1 
  - If the right wing were  Nite Owl   Mar-30-04 12:49 PM   #2 
  - Don't expect "lib" radio to have a corner on truth.  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 12:55 PM   #5 
  - Freedom?  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:00 PM   #9 
  - Don't you want to see how liberal radio fares--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:17 PM   #16 
     - Air America isn't a conglomerate  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:21 PM   #18 
        - I'm not trying to be "dishonest," that's just your interpretation--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:32 PM   #22 
        - I view media centralization and censorship as an enemy  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:39 PM   #25 
        - right on!  Kali   Mar-30-04 02:13 PM   #38 
        - JB, you like right wing talk radio, corporations and Clear Channel  mouse7   Mar-30-04 02:33 PM   #46 
        - No, John, you're right.  BiggJawn   Mar-30-04 03:52 PM   #65 
        - Not an apple and oranges comparison  DBoon   Mar-30-04 01:36 PM   #23 
           - I think you missed one small addition to this...  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:46 PM   #29 
  - True Liberals DO have a corner on the truth  mouse7   Mar-30-04 02:28 PM   #43 
     - That is completely and utterly false  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 02:32 PM   #44 
        - You need to relearn what a true liberal really is  mouse7   Mar-30-04 02:39 PM   #47 
           - So liberalism, as a movement, is static in your opinion?  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 02:47 PM   #49 
              - Nothing static about the concepts of liberalism  mouse7   Mar-30-04 03:09 PM   #56 
                 - You're confusing religious institutions with spirituality  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 03:45 PM   #63 
                    - You can only base government on the physical world  mouse7   Mar-30-04 04:37 PM   #67 
  - Talk Radio started out to be a good thing.  newscaster   Mar-30-04 01:02 PM   #10 
     - Shows like the old-school one you mentioned still exist  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:07 PM   #13 
  - In principal, yes. But the lack of our side (and coporate media) to...  Brotherjohn   Mar-30-04 12:54 PM   #3 
  - Corporate radio monopolies  cprise   Mar-30-04 12:55 PM   #4 
  - One has to wonder  MissMillie   Mar-30-04 12:56 PM   #6 
  - "The only option?"  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:07 PM   #12 
     - NPR/PBS is NOT "liberal-leaning"  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:13 PM   #14 
     - You forgot to explain why the ediotrial pages are not liberal.  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:18 PM   #17 
        - Editorial pages AREN'T liberal  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:25 PM   #20 
           - So WHO is liberal in the media?  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:46 PM   #30 
              - The media is neither liberal nor conservative -- it's corporate.  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:58 PM   #32 
              - Thanks Irate, good analysis.  pollock   Mar-30-04 02:24 PM   #42 
              - How do you answer studies such as this one?  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 02:40 PM   #48 
                 - This report cites Drudge as the most "centrist"?  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 03:08 PM   #55 
                 - That scale intentionally distracts from ISSUES.  mouse7   Mar-30-04 03:33 PM   #59 
                 - easy- there is much more to creating a bias than simply.....  texas is the reason   Mar-30-04 03:57 PM   #66 
              - Liberal ideas propagate outside the mainstream media  cprise   Mar-30-04 02:05 PM   #35 
              - Amy Goodman. Pacifica Radio. That's pretty much it  mouse7   Mar-30-04 03:15 PM   #57 
     - Clear Clannel, Corporations, talk radio good, editorials "liberal"  mouse7   Mar-30-04 02:52 PM   #51 
     - Oh, yeah? Where am I "coming from" Mouse? n/t  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 02:56 PM   #52 
        - Clear Channel, corporations, right wing talk radio all good to you  mouse7   Mar-30-04 03:40 PM   #61 
     - That's not what I said  MissMillie   Mar-30-04 03:37 PM   #60 
  - Without the fairness doctrine, absolutely not  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 12:58 PM   #7 
  - for some reason  stellanoir   Mar-30-04 01:07 PM   #11 
  - I listen to some talk-radio  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:14 PM   #15 
  - I certainly don't.  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:30 PM   #21 
  - Excellent-- you are excersizing you're right to tune out  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:37 PM   #24 
     - No. I am exercising my right to tune out and NOT hear what I DON'T want  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 01:43 PM   #28 
        - And these are not "liberal" shows?  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:52 PM   #31 
           - That's a helluva big difference!  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 02:04 PM   #34 
  - A challenge and an opportunity...  LeahMira   Mar-30-04 01:40 PM   #26 
  - I don't need to read Goebbels to know Nazism was wrong  mouse7   Mar-30-04 03:46 PM   #64 
     - Your absolutism on this matter is disturbing.  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 04:55 PM   #68 
        - Medved and Elder are propagandists. I don't want propaganda.  mouse7   Mar-30-04 05:10 PM   #69 
           - Is not "worthy of airtime" a personal belief--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 05:57 PM   #70 
              - Liars aren't worthy of airtime. Ad standard should apply to news.  mouse7   Mar-30-04 06:19 PM   #74 
                 - What the hell are you talking about???  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 06:41 PM   #78 
                    - There's no "truth wing" of gov't analyzing ad content, is there?  mouse7   Mar-30-04 06:53 PM   #79 
                       - No it doesn't blow my argument away--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 07:08 PM   #81 
                          - Free Speech in Public airwaves a myth  mouse7   Mar-30-04 07:19 PM   #82 
  - nothing but an echo chamber  zebrathirtythree   Mar-30-04 02:13 PM   #39 
     - Then why are you here?  IrateCitizen   Mar-30-04 02:17 PM   #41 
        - I was not complaining  zebrathirtythree   Mar-30-04 02:33 PM   #45 
  - America is far worse off  Walt Starr   Mar-30-04 01:00 PM   #8 
  - Worse off. It's interesting... I hear the argument put forward here  Mayberry Machiavelli   Mar-30-04 01:23 PM   #19 
  - I agree-- CC made a terrible mistake in firing Stern.  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 01:42 PM   #27 
     - I know a lot of people on DU hate Stern, and I understand  Mayberry Machiavelli   Mar-30-04 02:00 PM   #33 
     - CC will probably try to "level" their playing field by getting FCC  Mayberry Machiavelli   Mar-30-04 02:08 PM   #37 
     - No they do so at OUR peril  cprise   Mar-30-04 02:15 PM   #40 
  - Much worse.  janeaustin   Mar-30-04 02:05 PM   #36 
  - for the record you CAN shout FIRE in a crowded theater  Skittles   Mar-30-04 02:50 PM   #50 
  - Freedom ONLY if you agree? Hmmmm.....  igraph   Mar-30-04 03:02 PM   #53 
  - Goebbels/Rove: Read it and Weep  Mayberry Machiavelli   Mar-30-04 03:03 PM   #54 
  - And the DNC does not issue it's "talking points?" n/t  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 06:08 PM   #71 
     - No broadcasters read DNC talking points.  mouse7   Mar-30-04 06:26 PM   #76 
  - worst  YIMA   Mar-30-04 03:22 PM   #58 
  - Worse by far.  tom_paine   Mar-30-04 03:40 PM   #62 
  - The world is CONSTANTLY changing--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 06:10 PM   #72 
     - Fairness Doctrine and Ad Standard for News.  mouse7   Mar-30-04 06:23 PM   #75 
        - Opinion is not news--  John BigBootay   Mar-30-04 06:35 PM   #77 
           - Opinions need to be labeled like in Fairness Doctrine days  mouse7   Mar-30-04 06:56 PM   #80 
  - No Fairness Doctrine = RW Propaganda, and thus far, far worse...  rezmutt   Mar-30-04 06:16 PM   #73 
 

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