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Tue Mar-30-04 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #145 |
| 154. um..... "Baby-killer Bar & Grill" would be a real turn off to customers |
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 Abortion is a whole other can of mixeed nuts 
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| -NYC bar and restaurants report increased revenue after smoking ban |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 09:23 AM |
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And not just NYC |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 09:24 AM |
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Of course it doesn't |
trumad |
Mar-30-04 09:26 AM |
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When people can't smoke |
dralston |
Mar-30-04 09:26 AM |
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Or they drink more |
JVS |
Mar-30-04 01:34 PM |
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I don't think it's the restaurants... |
russian33 |
Mar-30-04 09:45 AM |
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Freedom of Choice?!! |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 09:50 AM |
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Freedom to pollute others is more like it |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:08 AM |
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eh |
ant |
Mar-30-04 10:10 AM |
#17 |
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Coal Miners |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 10:24 AM |
#23 |
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more BS |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:25 PM |
#41 |
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The Center of The Universe |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 12:42 PM |
#46 |
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Who cares how it FEELS to be there? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:51 PM |
#51 |
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Fact? |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 12:58 PM |
#60 |
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Don't waste my time |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:04 PM |
#65 |
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Don't Have The Facts, I Guess.... |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 01:25 PM |
#73 |
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I said the post and question are disingenous |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:27 PM |
#74 |
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Not To Put TOO fine a point on it |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 02:26 PM |
#92 |
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Not a lie |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 02:56 PM |
#98 |
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You Call It Whatever |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 03:53 PM |
#117 |
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The EPA reviewed 11 secondhand smoke studies |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 02:31 PM |
#94 |
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Hmmmmm...... |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 03:56 PM |
#120 |
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Coal mining |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 01:23 PM |
#72 |
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Not true |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:30 PM |
#76 |
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Miners |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 02:27 PM |
#93 |
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Misleading. Fatalities are not the only safety concern |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:00 PM |
#99 |
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Okay |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 03:37 PM |
#110 |
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Make up your mind |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:23 PM |
#125 |
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Already did |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 05:16 PM |
#148 |
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No you didn't |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:42 PM |
#155 |
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Points |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 06:11 PM |
#160 |
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response |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:21 AM |
#168 |
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Although this |
SOS |
Mar-31-04 10:31 AM |
#175 |
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Yes, that was a waste of time |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 12:44 PM |
#178 |
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Fact or Opinion? |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 04:05 PM |
#122 |
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"right-to-smoke" is bullshit. |
Why |
Mar-30-04 02:23 PM |
#91 |
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well |
ant |
Mar-30-04 08:36 PM |
#162 |
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Amen outinforce |
RossMcLochNess |
Mar-30-04 11:20 AM |
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BLah, blah, blah |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:08 AM |
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I suppose the economy should not be considered at all? |
Bandit |
Mar-30-04 11:22 AM |
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But that would be Free Markets |
mulethree |
Mar-30-04 01:23 PM |
#71 |
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There is no free market |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:31 PM |
#77 |
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makes sense, doesn't it? |
unblock |
Mar-30-04 09:48 AM |
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There was a bar near my old neighborhood in Portland |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-30-04 09:55 AM |
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You Mean.....? |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 09:58 AM |
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No, she means |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:26 PM |
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Mar-30-04 12:46 PM |
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I guess you can't do any better than a personal attack |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:53 PM |
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My Apologies |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 01:01 PM |
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What you ought to apologize for |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:06 PM |
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Let Me Then Re-Double My Apology |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 01:28 PM |
#75 |
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You May Want To Take A Look |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 01:05 PM |
#66 |
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Again |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:08 PM |
#68 |
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Having An Allergy.... |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 04:18 PM |
#124 |
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Yeah, right |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:27 PM |
#126 |
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Google is a Wonderful Tool |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 04:34 PM |
#128 |
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I was waiting for you to bring up MCS |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:44 PM |
#131 |
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And your point is.... |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:02 PM |
#138 |
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MCSers don't go to bars |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:07 PM |
#140 |
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I Do Not Have MCS |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:20 PM |
#149 |
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Tobacco is a public health hazard |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:23 AM |
#169 |
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Let's See If I Understand |
outinforce |
Mar-31-04 12:40 PM |
#177 |
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I think the anti-smoking crusade... |
slavkomae |
Mar-30-04 09:56 AM |
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The Smell |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 10:00 AM |
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Sure. DIg up some evidence that perfume harms the health of others |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:10 AM |
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And you... |
slavkomae |
Mar-30-04 10:25 AM |
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Check the FDA |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:30 PM |
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"The health of people who work in smoking bars is worsened by the smoke." |
slavkomae |
Mar-30-04 01:33 PM |
#79 |
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Wrong again |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 02:04 PM |
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OK. |
slavkomae |
Mar-30-04 02:19 PM |
#89 |
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OK |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:09 PM |
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My last post about this, we're going in circles. |
slavkomae |
Mar-30-04 03:54 PM |
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"sentient and informed adults s/b allowed to make their own decisions" |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:39 PM |
#129 |
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Is That A Fact? |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 04:43 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, it's a fact |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:44 PM |
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Let's See Here... |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:10 PM |
#143 |
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We've discussed it before outinforce |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:13 PM |
#146 |
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I Think You Must |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:31 PM |
#152 |
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Mar-30-04 04:44 PM |
#132 |
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Allergies |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 10:28 AM |
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So what? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:31 PM |
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Mar-30-04 12:47 PM |
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Another personal attack? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:54 PM |
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"A sneeze never harmed anyone's health" |
SOS |
Mar-30-04 12:55 PM |
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Ummmm |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:56 PM |
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double "ummmmmm" |
Greyskye |
Mar-31-04 10:14 AM |
#166 |
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SO ban sneezing |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:24 AM |
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THANK YOU |
theHandpuppet |
Mar-30-04 10:16 AM |
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to be fair |
ant |
Mar-30-04 09:58 AM |
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Anecdotes always trump facts |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:12 AM |
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You're not presenting facts... |
JHB |
Mar-30-04 11:16 AM |
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Agreed. |
rinsd |
Mar-30-04 11:21 AM |
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You're the one who is cherrypicking |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:41 PM |
#45 |
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imagine what the recovery could've been |
ant |
Mar-30-04 09:02 PM |
#164 |
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All the facts? |
Greyskye |
Mar-31-04 10:20 AM |
#167 |
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New York Nightlife Association biased? Impossible |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:26 AM |
#171 |
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of course they're biased |
ant |
Mar-31-04 03:06 PM |
#179 |
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why you gotta be like that? |
ant |
Mar-30-04 08:42 PM |
#163 |
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"Tobacco Free Kids" |
Crisco |
Mar-30-04 06:12 PM |
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"The ban" is hurting Dallas |
derby378 |
Mar-30-04 10:03 AM |
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Yeah, right |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:18 AM |
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I'm not sure the deduction is correct. |
napi21 |
Mar-30-04 10:03 AM |
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"always tried to respect the wishes of those around me " |
KansDem |
Mar-30-04 10:24 AM |
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Obesity is right up there with smoking as No 1 killer |
Mari333 |
Mar-30-04 10:12 AM |
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Way to ignore the issue |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 10:17 AM |
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Here comes the Cancer brigade |
trumad |
Mar-30-04 10:27 AM |
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You might want to spend your energy going after oil companies |
Mari333 |
Mar-30-04 01:47 PM |
#81 |
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Still avoiding the issue? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 02:08 PM |
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That argument becomes an issue for enforcement |
MissMillie |
Mar-30-04 03:50 PM |
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Good. |
Triple H |
Mar-30-04 10:26 AM |
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Yet you drive a car and breathe in polluted air spewed out |
Mari333 |
Mar-30-04 01:52 PM |
#83 |
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I've got no problem with banning cars |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 02:16 PM |
#88 |
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I wouldn't mind banning cars either. |
Triple H |
Mar-30-04 04:58 PM |
#136 |
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Smoke-free bars the best thing about my trip out east |
cheezus |
Mar-30-04 10:28 AM |
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If they really are making a lot of money... |
pnb |
Mar-30-04 10:43 AM |
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yeah, you'd think that. |
cheezus |
Mar-30-04 10:50 AM |
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Have You Ever Thought of This? |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 10:55 AM |
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I don't know how I feel about this. |
FlaGranny |
Mar-30-04 10:43 AM |
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Interesting study |
pnb |
Mar-30-04 11:03 AM |
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Read the piece again |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:47 PM |
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Its been read |
pnb |
Mar-30-04 01:33 PM |
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"which tobaccofreekids cherrypicked for their document. Same thing" |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 02:16 PM |
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Lordy... |
pnb |
Mar-30-04 03:43 PM |
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Bait and switch |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:56 PM |
#134 |
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So how much did they raise their prices? |
BiggJawn |
Mar-30-04 11:07 AM |
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I am opposed to the outlawing of tobacco but not the outlawing of |
Bandit |
Mar-30-04 01:49 PM |
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That makes no sense. |
BiggJawn |
Mar-30-04 03:23 PM |
#104 |
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I also feel you should be able to masturbate in private but not public |
Bandit |
Mar-30-04 04:48 PM |
#133 |
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Not to pee on anyone's cornflakes but... |
RossMcLochNess |
Mar-30-04 11:35 AM |
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it wont be long we take kids out of homes |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-04 12:45 PM |
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Oh-h-h-h! Hold me mommy, I'm scared! |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:56 PM |
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your funny |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-04 12:59 PM |
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Smokers should be ashamed of themselves. |
DrWeird |
Mar-30-04 12:52 PM |
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but there is no extremism here right |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-04 12:56 PM |
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" it wont be long we take kids out of homes" |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 12:58 PM |
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lol lol lol |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-04 01:00 PM |
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btw there was a case a couple years ago |
seabeyond |
Mar-30-04 01:03 PM |
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I find it amusing... |
Q |
Mar-30-04 01:13 PM |
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And I find it amusing |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 01:23 PM |
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I thought this would never work in CA when they did it... but... |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Mar-30-04 01:57 PM |
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Good for them and an increase in business |
mmonk |
Mar-30-04 02:21 PM |
#90 |
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tempe arizona has a smoking ban too |
hippiegranny |
Mar-30-04 02:34 PM |
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I won't smoke outside anymore |
mmonk |
Mar-30-04 02:38 PM |
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Very mature |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:11 PM |
#101 |
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TobaccoFreeKids? |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 02:38 PM |
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No, the study was by NYC's Dept of Health and Human Services |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:12 PM |
#102 |
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still a rather biased source |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 03:34 PM |
#106 |
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NYC's dept of health is biased? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:36 PM |
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Dept of HEALTH? |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 03:37 PM |
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Are they biased? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 04:58 PM |
#135 |
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the 'fact' that smoking is bad for me? or.... |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 05:07 PM |
#141 |
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It's a pretty simple question |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:09 PM |
#142 |
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Great!!! |
Deb-Ter |
Mar-30-04 03:16 PM |
#103 |
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OOOOH! Another smoker-bashing thread. How nifty! |
Touchdown |
Mar-30-04 03:24 PM |
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Aw-w-w! Did we hurt your feelings? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 03:37 PM |
#108 |
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No. Did I validate yours? |
Touchdown |
Mar-30-04 03:39 PM |
#111 |
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word of advice sangh0 |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 03:41 PM |
#112 |
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And I"ve got some advice for you |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:01 PM |
#137 |
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Mar-30-04 05:10 PM |
#144 |
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And I can see your the model of maturity, "friend" |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:16 PM |
#147 |
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Let's See HERE |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:34 PM |
#153 |
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So over the dozen or more posts I have in this thread |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:45 PM |
#156 |
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Since You Seem To Be Keeping A Count |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 06:09 PM |
#158 |
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Nice try |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:29 AM |
#172 |
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disingenuous |
Greyskye |
Mar-31-04 06:46 PM |
#180 |
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"...report from www.tobaccofreekids.org..." |
SoCalDem |
Mar-30-04 03:52 PM |
#115 |
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my thoughts exactly. |
EV1Ltimm |
Mar-30-04 04:29 PM |
#127 |
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excellent |
ButterflyBlood |
Mar-30-04 03:53 PM |
#116 |
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I'm not sure that it follows |
ibegurpard |
Mar-30-04 03:55 PM |
#119 |
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no, no, no.... you obviously DON'T UNDERSTAND! |
matcom |
Mar-30-04 03:58 PM |
#121 |
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more persecution? |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:05 PM |
#139 |
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It's ok to hate smokers and fat people |
SoCalDem |
Mar-30-04 04:08 PM |
#123 |
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Individual bar owners s/b allowed to kill babies!! |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:12 PM |
#145 |
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Gee. |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 05:28 PM |
#151 |
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Gee, I guess you have low threshold for hyperbole |
sangh0 |
Mar-30-04 05:46 PM |
#157 |
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You Aren't |
outinforce |
Mar-30-04 06:11 PM |
#159 |
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No |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:31 AM |
#173 |
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um..... "Baby-killer Bar & Grill" would be a real turn off to customers |
SoCalDem |
Mar-30-04 05:34 PM |
#154 |
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It's true that a disproportionate amount of the burden falls on... |
shoopnyc123 |
Mar-30-04 05:21 PM |
#150 |
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It should be up to the owners. |
Undemcided |
Mar-30-04 10:12 PM |
#165 |
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Nothing stopping bar owners from finding another job |
sangh0 |
Mar-31-04 10:31 AM |
#174 |
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So you would prefer .. |
Undemcided |
Mar-31-04 11:51 AM |
#176 |