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Thu Aug-07-03 11:28 AM
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| 10. But, but.......God loves the rich more... |
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...ergo, they receive more of this world's goods.
Under the perverted Calvinism that is this nation's unofficial official religion, it makes perfect sense that rich people deserve better health care than everyone else.
Welcome to Murka, where the Elect know they're Elect because of their material prosperity. They're not elect because they're rich, they're rich because they're elect. Taxing them at a higher rate than everybody else is to question Divine judgement. That is why a progressive income tax is heresy.
The poor are poor not because they have less money, but because they're the Preterite, damned from before the beginning of time. They're not damned because they're poor, they're poor because they're damned. To help them out is to question Divine judgement.
Reformation extremism meets Social Darwinism.
Welcome to Murka.
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| -Do rich people deserve better health care than everyone else? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 10:58 AM |
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Deserve? Nope. |
turdinthepunchbowl |
Aug-07-03 11:02 AM |
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what does that mean exactly? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 11:09 AM |
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so you think |
northzax |
Aug-07-03 11:13 AM |
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progressive market |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 11:29 AM |
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Yes, because they can afford it. |
Oracle |
Aug-07-03 05:14 PM |
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Not many are in favor of HMOs as they were operated. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Aug-07-03 11:12 AM |
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Everyone should have equal access to good quality and affordable |
Redleg |
Aug-07-03 01:21 PM |
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No! All Health and Education must be on an equal playing field. |
quilp |
Aug-07-03 03:50 PM |
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Ridiculous |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 03:52 PM |
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this post is begging for a Farmboxer reply... so I'll do it |
arcane1 |
Aug-07-03 11:10 AM |
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funny, but |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 12:12 PM |
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Farmboxer is a long-term DUer, though I haven't seen him at DU2 n/t |
DemBones DemBones |
Aug-07-03 01:07 PM |
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er, 'deserve' isn't really the right word |
northzax |
Aug-07-03 11:10 AM |
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All Americans Are Entitled |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-07-03 11:14 AM |
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This is a tough question for at LEAST one reason |
JewelDigger |
Aug-07-03 11:17 AM |
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Many physicians solve that problem neatly |
Mairead |
Aug-07-03 11:30 AM |
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not at all, this addresses that exact problem |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 11:31 AM |
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Yes. Actually at least two reasons. |
shimmergal |
Aug-07-03 12:36 PM |
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And here's several more thoughts.... |
Snow |
Aug-07-03 12:40 PM |
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What is the hippocratic oath? |
sparosnare |
Aug-07-03 11:17 AM |
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But, but.......God loves the rich more... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Aug-07-03 11:28 AM |
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preterite |
Friar |
Aug-07-03 01:18 PM |
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Of Course they do!!! |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Aug-07-03 11:53 AM |
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do not get me started |
Wonder |
Aug-07-03 12:16 PM |
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If healthcare (or anything for that matter) were priced by wealth... |
pnb |
Aug-07-03 01:07 PM |
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totally separate issue |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 01:35 PM |
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I did simplify the situation but it is not separate |
pnb |
Aug-07-03 02:54 PM |
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An emphatic NO. |
Gringo |
Aug-07-03 01:10 PM |
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Health care is not a "commodity" |
Friar |
Aug-07-03 01:15 PM |
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Of course health care is a commodity |
zoidberg |
Aug-07-03 01:40 PM |
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Actually yes |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 01:24 PM |
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I think you're assuming a lot of things here |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 01:29 PM |
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Wrong again |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 01:34 PM |
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you are either wrong, or missing the point |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 01:42 PM |
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EVERYTHING Can be regulated |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 01:45 PM |
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an individual does not "become corporate" |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 01:55 PM |
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There we disagree |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 02:00 PM |
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you are talking about something completely different |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 02:04 PM |
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No need |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 02:09 PM |
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wait a minute |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 02:27 PM |
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Corporations |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 03:15 PM |
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well of course I'm not saying that |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 03:20 PM |
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Lots of stuff |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-07-03 03:37 PM |
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What if it's a private practice? |
zoidberg |
Aug-07-03 02:04 PM |
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Valid point |
Gringo |
Aug-07-03 02:59 PM |
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deserve it or not they get it now and always will |
private_ryan |
Aug-07-03 01:32 PM |
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The conservative response to that question: |
bluestateguy |
Aug-07-03 01:48 PM |
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where does this come from? |
turdinthepunchbowl |
Aug-07-03 02:17 PM |
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Emercency care is NOT health care.... |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-07-03 02:25 PM |
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They don't deserve it... |
SyracuseDemocrat |
Aug-07-03 02:14 PM |
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seg-way |
turdinthepunchbowl |
Aug-07-03 02:20 PM |
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Wouldn't that be the fault of insurance, not HMOs? |
zoidberg |
Aug-07-03 02:36 PM |
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Deserve? Good lord! Of course not. |
liberal_veteran |
Aug-07-03 02:20 PM |
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Question |
Nederland |
Aug-07-03 02:24 PM |
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of course not |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 02:30 PM |
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I disagree |
pnb |
Aug-07-03 03:43 PM |
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of course, a physician's labor belongs to the physician |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-07-03 04:34 PM |
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See the movie "John Q" |
bluestateguy |
Aug-07-03 04:46 PM |
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two words |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-07-03 04:48 PM |
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Comestic care, yes. Real health care, no |
BushHasGotToGo |
Aug-07-03 05:15 PM |
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