Sulldogg
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Tue Mar-23-04 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #33 |
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That addressed my concerns over what I believed was happening in the African-American community.
Thanks.
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| -Black Clergy Rally Against Gay Marriage |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 08:12 PM |
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ill agree to a certain extent |
historian |
Mar-23-04 08:19 PM |
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Oh, really? |
robnycny |
Mar-23-04 08:20 PM |
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How did they know you were gay, did you tell them? |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 08:28 PM |
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Ohhhhh, so it's their OWN fault that they're being discriminated against? |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:30 PM |
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All I can say is that |
dsc |
Mar-23-04 08:33 PM |
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I think I need so help |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:36 PM |
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My point is blacks do not have that CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!! nt |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 08:40 PM |
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Are you suggesting that Gays DO? Are you suggesting that it MATTERS? |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:42 PM |
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If it is a choice... |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:44 PM |
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Not at all. Gays, even if they HAVE/HAD a choice, have the right to be |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:45 PM |
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This is going to get flamed |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:51 PM |
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Your boss has a reasonable interest, if you tell him to |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:55 PM |
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Remember |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:58 PM |
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Easy. Does that choice interfere with your life, or the life of a |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:00 PM |
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So |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:11 PM |
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Um, that WOULD directly affect the people in question. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:13 PM |
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Can you fire anybody? |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:29 PM |
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If you have objective cause. Otherwise, you're gonna get sued... |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:32 PM |
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Define objective cause |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:35 PM |
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Sure, provided that the cause of those actions is the action of the |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:38 PM |
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Aren't I punishing them |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:41 PM |
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Ah ha! |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:47 PM |
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If.. |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 10:02 PM |
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Bigotry is not a crime |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 10:05 PM |
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IF I have to fire one |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 10:07 PM |
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Why? |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 10:18 PM |
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Listen |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 10:21 PM |
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It's quite clear |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 10:29 PM |
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Assuming there were no overt acts |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 10:34 PM |
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You're still avoiding a key part of your example. |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 10:56 PM |
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Fine |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 11:26 PM |
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See ya |
HFishbine |
Mar-24-04 06:54 AM |
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Even easier |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:20 PM |
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We're defining jurisprudence |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:22 PM |
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You have a choice |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:20 PM |
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My friend, read the context, I am NOT suggesting that Gays have a CHOICE, |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 08:49 PM |
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Why should I have to hide who I am |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 08:50 PM |
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So, if a mixed Black/White looks White, he should HIDE the fact that |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:51 PM |
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I am not suggesting that anyone hide anything! |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 08:58 PM |
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Then why are you against Gays struggling for their rights? What makes you |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:03 PM |
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Do me a favor |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:07 PM |
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The struggles for human rights ARE the same struggle, troll. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:10 PM |
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Where |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:13 PM |
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Correction: Community. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:16 PM |
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This thread |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:24 PM |
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Maybe you can exercise a little intellectual honesty |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:25 PM |
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That would be me. The motives of all these struggles ARE the same... |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:29 PM |
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The distinction |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:32 PM |
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Well, obviously the events are different...but the CAUSE is the same. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:33 PM |
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I guess the same way that Jewish people get upset when the HOLOCAUST |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 09:10 PM |
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Heh. Look who's talking about "putting words in peoples' mouths" |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:12 PM |
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There you go again!!!! |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 09:16 PM |
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Yep. It DOESN'T seem to mean much to you. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:20 PM |
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Guess what buddy |
Yemp4734 |
Mar-23-04 11:29 PM |
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While I don't volunteer it |
dsc |
Mar-23-04 09:09 PM |
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Blacks have a choice too |
WhereIsMyFreedom |
Mar-23-04 10:47 PM |
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Give me a break, where did I stomp on Gays? |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 09:05 PM |
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You just answered your own question. Somehow, inferring that Gays are |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:08 PM |
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So only Jewish people have a right not to have their struggle and the |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 09:15 PM |
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Nope. Never said that. Nice try. Please point out where I did. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:19 PM |
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There you go again..... |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 09:37 PM |
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Nope. Just wondering why you suddenly feel the need to drag a |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:42 PM |
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God Dam That Passion movie was fucking GREAT!! |
rednek_Liberal |
Mar-23-04 09:53 PM |
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Neither do I |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:42 PM |
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A hypothetical question |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:18 PM |
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Doesn't matter |
kiahzero |
Mar-23-04 09:29 PM |
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Yikes. |
robnycny |
Mar-23-04 08:42 PM |
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dupe |
corporatewhore |
Mar-23-04 08:53 PM |
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hmm transgender folk are discriminated against based on their looks |
corporatewhore |
Mar-23-04 08:54 PM |
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Crap. I fail to see any difference at all. Two groups, looking for the |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:22 PM |
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Civil rights is not about |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:22 PM |
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This is the correct answer. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:23 PM |
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Taking a bow.... |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:25 PM |
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BTW: If you work for the government, you CAN be fired. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:24 PM |
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Yes I am well aware of that |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:26 PM |
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These bigotted snapperheads think their time has come. As for Black |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:29 PM |
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well said |
historian |
Mar-23-04 08:25 PM |
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So why do some Jewish people get upset when the HOLOCAUST |
doubles |
Mar-23-04 10:36 PM |
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Isn't the fight for civil rights in the black community |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 08:27 PM |
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Personally |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:37 PM |
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Once again, we come round to the "who suffered more" argument, which |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:39 PM |
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Where did I mention |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:43 PM |
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No, it's still just discrimination. Still ignorant bullshyt. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:47 PM |
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Good job |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:53 PM |
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How could I address those concerns? I'm not Black, nor is the Gay issue |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:56 PM |
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My post |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:00 PM |
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Oh, so you're a troll. Never mind. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:03 PM |
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So now |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:42 PM |
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WRONG |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:46 PM |
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well |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 08:50 PM |
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Those are choices... |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:56 PM |
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But that is not always the case. |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 08:48 PM |
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Did you CHOOSE to be a lesbian? |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 08:51 PM |
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No, it doesn't. That alleged CHOICE is that person's RIGHT, at least |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:53 PM |
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Please explain |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:01 PM |
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Well, trollboi, take a gander at it yourself: |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:05 PM |
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Please |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:16 PM |
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Simple. The fact that a Gay person is Gay, "practicing" or not, does not |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:22 PM |
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I support Affirmative Action |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:25 PM |
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That's a whole different can o' worms. Best to start a new thread on it. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:31 PM |
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Agreed |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:37 PM |
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It is my assertion that homosexuality is not a choice |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:03 PM |
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The WHY ask your question? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:06 PM |
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It gets to the heart of the matter because |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:09 PM |
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But Droopy!!!! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:11 PM |
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How is asking you if you chose to be a lesbian offensive? |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:17 PM |
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Oh boy! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:20 PM |
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Heavans forbid I emphasise a word to try and get a point across |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:27 PM |
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Then you need to take into account... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:32 PM |
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This entire thread |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 09:35 PM |
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You hang in there my friend. |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:37 PM |
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Don't let 'em get ya down, GBnC. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:37 PM |
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Unfortunately MPM... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:41 PM |
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I'm not skirting around my own words |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:39 PM |
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And you know what? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:43 PM |
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You're misreading him |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 09:46 PM |
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Thank you |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:51 PM |
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Excuse me... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 10:08 PM |
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I agree |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 10:35 PM |
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Tell me bucko!!!! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 08:57 PM |
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I wasn't attacking you |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:01 PM |
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Oh BULLSHIT!!! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:03 PM |
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Please tell me how I attacked you |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:04 PM |
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Just go back and take a look at what you said... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:07 PM |
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I had no intentions of offending or attacking you. |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:10 PM |
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Then you NEED to really think... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:13 PM |
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I still don't understand how what I did was offensive |
Droopy |
Mar-23-04 09:23 PM |
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The I cannot help you. |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 09:25 PM |
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It's the principles that count. Gays are comparing their struggle with |
Solomon |
Mar-23-04 08:32 PM |
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Far as I know, the only one who said ANYTHING about it in the bible |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:35 PM |
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Paul and all those Black Clergy which is the subject of this thread, |
Solomon |
Mar-23-04 08:48 PM |
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Well, they need to keep their beliefs out of MY government. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:50 PM |
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That would be what I call Paul... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 09:01 PM |
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Yep. Jesus was barely COLD when that creep tried to pervert everything |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:07 PM |
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i'm for gay rights, but I also don't like the comparison to the civil |
Used and Abused |
Mar-23-04 10:56 PM |
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You must not understand |
HFishbine |
Mar-23-04 08:34 PM |
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BUt as we all know... |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:40 PM |
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Horse. Shyt. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:43 PM |
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It is the law of the land..... n/t |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 08:46 PM |
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It doesn't apply in this case. The State has NO compelling interest |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 08:48 PM |
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I agree |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:21 PM |
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So, suddenly, it's okay to discriminate legally, if the majority agrees? |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:24 PM |
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All I'm saying |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:33 PM |
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That's nice. George Wallace tried to say the same thing. |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:36 PM |
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My partner and I have been together |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 09:38 PM |
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Congradulations!!!! |
Scottie72 |
Mar-23-04 09:44 PM |
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Do not associate |
Sulldogg |
Mar-23-04 09:40 PM |
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I have another issue with this matter: |
dirk |
Mar-23-04 08:50 PM |
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You can take out the word "alleged" in your post. The African |
Solomon |
Mar-23-04 09:06 PM |
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So my thread earlier is salient to this discussion... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 09:11 PM |
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This is the correct answer. Either you are FOR human rights, in total, or |
MadProphetMargin |
Mar-23-04 09:28 PM |
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Solomon |
dirk |
Mar-23-04 09:22 PM |
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I am African American. And I will tell you. Intellectually, the black |
Solomon |
Mar-23-04 09:40 PM |
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Perhaps I should just slit my wrists now... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-23-04 08:53 PM |
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Doubles, I hate to tell you, but... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Mar-23-04 08:56 PM |
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Civil rights are civil rights |
kiahzero |
Mar-23-04 09:04 PM |
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What is different is that it is socially acceptable to be homophobic |
corporatewhore |
Mar-23-04 09:33 PM |
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Rights aren't rights if they can be taken away for any or no reason |
dsc |
Mar-23-04 09:52 PM |
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While we undesirables sit around and argue over who is the biggest victim |
QC |
Mar-23-04 10:09 PM |
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the Right busily makes its plans to destroy us all.... |
Karenina |
Mar-24-04 06:59 AM |
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You're quite right. |
QC |
Mar-24-04 08:56 AM |
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You know who my heart goes out to? |
gator_in_Ontario |
Mar-24-04 06:39 AM |
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doubles |
DennisReveni |
Mar-24-04 06:46 AM |
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"where is the anger at Bill Clinton " |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Mar-24-04 09:13 AM |
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Equality under the law = "knee jerk liberalism." |
QC |
Mar-24-04 09:26 AM |
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Doubles, no one has said that the black experience is exactly the same |
QC |
Mar-24-04 08:59 AM |
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you are apparently unaware that gay people have been |
xchrom |
Mar-24-04 09:13 AM |
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So in that vein |
Djinn |
Mar-24-04 06:35 PM |
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