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163. I wouldn't want Colon and Condi as a
role model for MY kids. I don't think lying to the American people about something as serious as a war,and lying about everything else qualifies them as role models. :thumbsdown:
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  -My God! Condi Rice looks about done! Solomon  Mar-22-04 01:42 PM   #0 
  - That's normal for the bauble-head...n/t  linazelle   Mar-22-04 01:43 PM   #1 
  - Yes, her voice was shaking more than usual today.  Unknown Known   Mar-22-04 01:45 PM   #2 
  - She reminds me a little of  CalamityJane   Mar-22-04 02:17 PM   #10 
     - And...  Michael Harrington   Mar-23-04 01:41 AM   #201 
  - Impossible  orwell   Mar-22-04 01:47 PM   #3 
  - At last a job she can handle.  Sentinel Chicken   Mar-22-04 01:48 PM   #4 
  - She's definitely taking it very personally. Yesterday she had a piece  Solomon   Mar-22-04 01:55 PM   #5 
  - For Black America, The Thrill of Powell and Rice Is Gone  seemslikeadream   Mar-22-04 02:01 PM   #6 
  - I always find it funny when...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 02:05 PM   #8 
  - I sorry I have to disagree with you  seemslikeadream   Mar-22-04 02:29 PM   #14 
  - Why?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 02:41 PM   #16 
  - Hitler also rose, against the odds, to a position of power  2dumb2beprez   Mar-22-04 02:54 PM   #25 
  - Please note the post about...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:30 PM   #60 
     - Weak retort.  AtTheEndOfTheDay   Mar-22-04 07:06 PM   #84 
     - BS.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:08 PM   #86 
     - It's a valid proof by counterexample.  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 07:21 PM   #92 
        - It's invalid as it reduces the dicussion...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:39 PM   #97 
           - That doesn't address the fact that it's a valid counterexample  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 07:50 PM   #99 
           - It dosen't address it becasue...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:55 PM   #100 
              - It is a logical counterexample  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 07:59 PM   #102 
                 - *laughing loud*  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:03 PM   #104 
                    - No, it's not my "emotional response" that causes me to disqualify them  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 08:21 PM   #106 
                       - And Hitler does offer many things worth looking at.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:28 PM   #107 
                          - So you're willing to say Hitler is a role model  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 08:30 PM   #108 
                             - After a fashion yes he is.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:34 PM   #110 
                                - No, not at all  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 08:39 PM   #113 
                                   - Please see my edit.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:42 PM   #117 
                                      - No, the positives need to outweigh the negatives  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 08:46 PM   #120 
                                      - Why do they have to?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:50 PM   #121 
                                      - You can  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 08:59 PM   #122 
                                      - Darn. I can't be a role model then.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:11 PM   #126 
                                      - Clearly, you missed my point  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:20 PM   #132 
                                      - Which is entirely biased by...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:22 PM   #133 
                                      - Isn't being a "role model" a value judgement?  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:25 PM   #135 
                                      - Which is why I said they make good role models.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:29 PM   #138 
                                      - You can expand value judgments.  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:36 PM   #142 
                                      - You are assuming that Democracy...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:39 PM   #144 
                                      - No, I'm not  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:47 PM   #149 
                                      - So there are no corrupt and dishonest democracies?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:49 PM   #151 
                                      - Subverting democracy is generally a bad proposition  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:53 PM   #152 
                                      - What if the Democracy is corrupt?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:57 PM   #156 
                                      - Still a bad idea  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 09:59 PM   #159 
                                      - OK, so...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:02 PM   #162 
                                      - The election in Iraq was rigged  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 10:05 PM   #164 
                                      - and there in lies the twix, no?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:15 PM   #171 
                                      - "Living right" requires deciding what is right.  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 10:21 PM   #175 
                                      - thus you are stuck in the trap of using your morality,...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:26 PM   #178 
                                      - I see your point  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 10:31 PM   #182 
                                      - Which does not preclude them...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:34 PM   #185 
                                      - Right...  kiahzero   Mar-22-04 10:39 PM   #188 
                                      - It dosen't.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:41 PM   #190 
                                      - At least you confirmed my opinion of you.  TankLV   Mar-22-04 10:00 PM   #161 
                                      - Nice thing though.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:31 PM   #183 
                                      - LOL  U4ikLefty   Mar-23-04 01:18 AM   #197 
                                      - Oh please.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 05:52 AM   #207 
           - role models with qualifications....  Gore1FL   Mar-23-04 01:51 AM   #202 
              - Name a role model that dosen't come with...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 05:53 AM   #208 
                 - Jesus  Spentastic   Mar-23-04 09:33 AM   #212 
                    - I was thinking of someone real.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 10:49 AM   #216 
  - Gotta disagree.  CaptainClark23   Mar-22-04 03:04 PM   #30 
  - Why aren't they role models?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:31 PM   #62 
     - Um, those who play children's games and get paid entirely too much  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 07:22 PM   #93 
        - When they have drug problems...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:00 PM   #103 
           - You have difficulties staying on point.  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 09:28 PM   #136 
              - My argument has great merit.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:33 PM   #139 
                 - "C&C are not corrupt to the core. Thankfully very few are"  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:05 PM   #165 
                    - Yes...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:21 PM   #174 
                       - I truly wish I lived in your lala land.  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:30 PM   #181 
                          - Evidence about what?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:33 PM   #184 
                             - Again, and for the last time  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:43 PM   #191 
                                - Life is a moral vacume!  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:44 PM   #192 
  - I know a bit about Haiti  seemslikeadream   Mar-22-04 05:27 PM   #52 
  - Yup!  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:32 PM   #63 
  - they have "risen" by playing the role of republican whores  Skittles   Mar-22-04 08:36 PM   #112 
     - As opposed to people often glorified by the Left...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:44 PM   #118 
        - Care to name some folks you think are Black Democratic Whores?  thingfish   Mar-22-04 09:58 PM   #157 
           - Jessie Jackson for starters.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:00 PM   #160 
              - Jackson and Sharpton Are Loved In The Black Community  goclark   Mar-23-04 02:00 AM   #203 
                 - They are not Universally loved.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 05:51 AM   #206 
                    - I didn't say universally loved..  goclark   Mar-23-04 09:28 AM   #211 
                       - You said...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 10:51 AM   #217 
  - Exactly. No person, white, black or checkered should be considered  rustydog   Mar-22-04 06:06 PM   #55 
     - Then Clinton isn't a good role model.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:37 PM   #70 
  - Couldn't disagree more  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 02:38 PM   #15 
  - Again...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 02:43 PM   #20 
     - Not possible to separate the one from the other  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 02:49 PM   #22 
     - Of course it is possible to seperate the two.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 02:52 PM   #23 
        - It's Godwin's Law, and you're still wrong.  belle   Mar-22-04 02:56 PM   #26 
        - So don't use him.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:28 PM   #56 
           - That's rich  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:36 PM   #68 
              - Yup that is, more or less, what I'm saying.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:39 PM   #71 
        - Their actions speak more to their character  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 03:01 PM   #29 
        - So what?  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:28 PM   #58 
           - Perhaps you and I have different definitions of what a role model is  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:30 PM   #61 
           - Let's see...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:33 PM   #64 
              - Merriam Webster says  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:40 PM   #72 
              - And it still comes down to...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:44 PM   #75 
                 - And it still comes down to  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:51 PM   #80 
                    - If you choose to take that route....  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:12 PM   #88 
                       - no more so than  fishwax   Mar-22-04 09:49 PM   #150 
                       - Everyone can be a role model.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:55 PM   #154 
                          - But Jesse Jackson isn't an acceptable role model?  fishwax   Mar-22-04 10:14 PM   #170 
                             - I would not choose him as an acceptable role model...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:17 PM   #172 
                                - Hypocrisy sounds an awful lot like a value judgment  fishwax   Mar-22-04 10:25 PM   #177 
                                - Not really.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:28 PM   #179 
                       - From leading a little further  Sandpiper   Mar-23-04 12:32 AM   #195 
                          - Reading dammit, not leading  Sandpiper   Mar-23-04 03:25 AM   #205 
                          - No, I said they were RM's I would not choose.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 05:56 AM   #209 
              - selling out your own country is nothing to "achieve"  Skittles   Mar-22-04 08:40 PM   #114 
                 - People on the right would say...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 08:45 PM   #119 
                    - PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Skittles   Mar-22-04 09:11 PM   #125 
                       - Skittles you know as well as I...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:17 PM   #129 
                          - YES I KNOW THAT  Skittles   Mar-22-04 09:35 PM   #140 
                             - But some people would.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:37 PM   #143 
                                - I could call them fire hydrants but that doesn't make them fire hydrants  Skittles   Mar-23-04 10:20 AM   #214 
           - Yes they can be a role model.  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 07:31 PM   #95 
              - They can also aspire to be...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:41 PM   #98 
                 - It unconvincing to you because you you don't care about morality.  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 09:19 PM   #130 
                    - OK, bottom line time.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:23 PM   #134 
                       - Well, in my morally relativist world killing people, starting needless  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 09:41 PM   #146 
                          - Please point out where I said...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:44 PM   #148 
                             - "no matter their morality" is implicit in your message that  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 09:54 PM   #153 
                                - And they should.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:58 PM   #158 
                                   - If few are born to bring death an misery to millions and  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:12 PM   #169 
                                      - Which would be a value judgement.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:18 PM   #173 
                                         - Precisely!  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:24 PM   #176 
                                         - Even if, in the long term, that misery  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:28 PM   #180 
                                         - An impossibility.  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:38 PM   #187 
                                         - Theoretically.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:40 PM   #189 
                                         - Nonsense  Timefortruth   Mar-22-04 10:46 PM   #193 
                                         - If you are a historian...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:49 PM   #194 
        - Why is that?  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 07:01 PM   #83 
     - ...on the backs of all the people they have killed, over the dead bodies  TankLV   Mar-22-04 03:11 PM   #35 
     - Yup.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:29 PM   #59 
        - Well, I hope other's children don't let your children "succeed".  TankLV   Mar-22-04 10:06 PM   #166 
           - And may the God and Goddess...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 10:38 PM   #186 
     - Bullshit! It isn't politics  amBushed   Mar-22-04 03:49 PM   #48 
     - They are politicians.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:34 PM   #65 
        - That's funny  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:45 PM   #76 
           - I go to the mat for anyone...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:49 PM   #79 
              - Thanks for the sanctimony  Sandpiper   Mar-22-04 06:55 PM   #81 
              - Yer welcome.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:10 PM   #87 
              - You're talking about INTEGRITY to defend LIARS!  dbaker41   Mar-22-04 09:13 PM   #127 
              - I'm never in the mood for a flame fest.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:40 PM   #145 
              - Wow! You have an awfully undeserved high opinion of yourself.  TankLV   Mar-22-04 10:08 PM   #167 
     - This is Condi and Collin politics  seemslikeadream   Mar-22-04 05:39 PM   #53 
        - And we can go and pull out similar issues...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:42 PM   #74 
  - Aw, they're GREAT role models  dbaker41   Mar-22-04 02:45 PM   #21 
  - How about role models for...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 02:54 PM   #24 
  - Sell your soul to the Devil. Go to the head of the class.  chimpymustgo   Mar-22-04 03:01 PM   #28 
  - Rhetoric and BS  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:35 PM   #66 
     - Rhetoric my big red ass!  dbaker41   Mar-22-04 09:06 PM   #124 
        - Nope. It's rhetoric.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:35 PM   #141 
           - I'm glad you didn't disagree they are liars  U4ikLefty   Mar-23-04 01:30 AM   #199 
              - At least they are intelligent...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-23-04 05:58 AM   #210 
  - And that accident of birth was ...  2dumb2beprez   Mar-22-04 03:07 PM   #33 
  - Thank you, 2d2  Carolina   Mar-22-04 03:15 PM   #38 
  - Except they didn't say anything. n/t  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:36 PM   #69 
  - Wow!  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:36 PM   #67 
     - So why don't you clarify  Alenne   Mar-22-04 06:57 PM   #82 
        - No, that's what you wanted to read.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:07 PM   #85 
           - I can only go by what you write  Alenne   Mar-22-04 07:23 PM   #94 
           - NP.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:37 PM   #96 
           - Well, your chosen role-models may well end up in handcuffs ...  dbaker41   Mar-22-04 09:17 PM   #128 
              - Oh, they aren't my role models.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 09:42 PM   #147 
  - What is the difference between them and ordinary criminals  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-22-04 04:19 PM   #51 
  - It's more like: "You can lie, cheat, steal, be lazy, blame others for  TankLV   Mar-22-04 10:11 PM   #168 
  - Not fair!  SmokeyBlues   Mar-22-04 03:13 PM   #36 
     - What rags?  lolly   Mar-22-04 03:20 PM   #41 
     - Um, can we row that boat back to shore?  SmokeyBlues   Mar-22-04 03:44 PM   #47 
     - Foolish silly statements do not...  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:45 PM   #77 
        - Then you should cease and desist such immediately.  AtTheEndOfTheDay   Mar-22-04 07:14 PM   #89 
        - *laughing loudly*  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 07:17 PM   #90 
        - Amazing...  SmokeyBlues   Mar-22-04 08:41 PM   #116 
  - I wouldn't want Colon and Condi as a  buff2   Mar-22-04 10:04 PM   #163 
  - Yeah, what a great role model.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Mar-23-04 09:35 AM   #213 
  - African- American heroes, my ass  Carolina   Mar-22-04 03:06 PM   #32 
  - That's your choice.  DarkPhenyx   Mar-22-04 06:47 PM   #78 
  - Thrills Been Gone  goclark   Mar-23-04 01:26 AM   #198 
  - Condi will fall.  DemsUnite   Mar-22-04 02:02 PM   #7 
  - it is very frustrating  tigereye   Mar-22-04 02:14 PM   #9 
  - I beg to differ  historian   Mar-22-04 02:25 PM   #13 
  - Maybe she and Colin thought they could change things from the  Solomon   Mar-22-04 02:59 PM   #27 
     - I can't believe Rice has lasted this long, she has failed to protect the  UNCWDem   Mar-22-04 03:15 PM   #39 
     - Colin fooled me too  SmokeyBlues   Mar-22-04 03:58 PM   #50 
  - Those terrible racist Democrats, beating up a black "rolemodel"  TankLV   Mar-22-04 03:14 PM   #37 
  - I missed it - can anyone re-cap?  Jack_Dawson   Mar-22-04 05:45 PM   #54 
  - Not soon enough! n/t  PaDUer   Mar-22-04 07:18 PM   #91 
  - Four years of lying for the weasel will do it to you.  Manix   Mar-22-04 02:19 PM   #11 
  - She knows one day she'll be in front of Congress  ftbc   Mar-22-04 02:23 PM   #12 
  - She must realize that:  H2O Man   Mar-22-04 02:41 PM   #17 
  - when condi finally succombs....  flush_bush   Mar-22-04 02:41 PM   #18 
  - Nah..  alarcoeg   Mar-22-04 03:43 PM   #46 
  - Rumsfeld FIRST. Then Condi.  VolcanoJen   Mar-22-04 02:42 PM   #19 
  - Defending war criminals will do that to a person and shes aware of that  Ksec   Mar-22-04 03:04 PM   #31 
  - Rice gone by November  UNCWDem   Mar-22-04 03:09 PM   #34 
  - They had better jettison her sooner, than later.  DemsUnite   Mar-22-04 03:25 PM   #43 
  - She Goes -He Goes  goclark   Mar-23-04 03:13 AM   #204 
  - They cannot dismiss his claims for an obvious reason  chookie   Mar-22-04 03:15 PM   #40 
  - was he invited to join the grownups Condi?  Ksec   Mar-22-04 03:21 PM   #42 
  - Neo-Con-di Rice  chookie   Mar-22-04 03:39 PM   #45 
  - Notice where Rice was this morning!!!!!  UNCWDem   Mar-22-04 03:34 PM   #44 
     - Possibly. One of Clarke's accusations...  chookie   Mar-22-04 03:56 PM   #49 
     - Perhaps she was put out on the WH lawn cuz....  justjones   Mar-22-04 08:19 PM   #105 
  - My husband saw her on TV this morning and his reaction was  calimary   Mar-22-04 06:28 PM   #57 
  - She should be up crying all night every night for the  Jacobin   Mar-22-04 07:59 PM   #101 
  - Guess she knows  PaDUer   Mar-22-04 09:29 PM   #137 
  - Has the book hit the major book stores yet?  0007   Mar-22-04 06:40 PM   #73 
  - She is a Peterette of the worst kind, elevated to a level of ineptness  opihimoimoi   Mar-22-04 08:32 PM   #109 
  - she is a fraud, nothing but a Bush Whore  Skittles   Mar-22-04 08:34 PM   #111 
  - poor condi  historian   Mar-22-04 08:40 PM   #115 
  - Yep. The book is out. I just picked it  Solomon   Mar-22-04 09:01 PM   #123 
  - If she's done then Bush won't have anyone to read him stories  Woodstock   Mar-22-04 09:19 PM   #131 
  - She's trembling like a gut-shot fawn.  thingfish   Mar-22-04 09:56 PM   #155 
  - Time to "spend more time with her family". write a book about how tough  Zinfandel   Mar-23-04 12:42 AM   #196 
  - She did look like she was in trouble  U4ikLefty   Mar-23-04 01:34 AM   #200 
  - Constant lying is not good for anybody.  devinsgram   Mar-23-04 10:28 AM   #215 
 

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