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186. I don't condemn feminism at all
I'm all for it. I'm against (for lack of a better term) anti-men feminism.
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  -From feminism to feminazi: Reclaiming the language prolesunited  Mar-03-04 07:50 AM   #0 
  - Feminism is ....  smjoyner   Mar-03-04 08:17 AM   #1 
  - The term "feminazi" is hate speach, pure and simple.  Bandit   Mar-03-04 09:22 AM   #13 
  - If you do a search for a thread that I started...  RoeBear   Mar-03-04 05:03 PM   #163 
  - I'm a feminist  OKNancy   Mar-03-04 08:29 AM   #2 
  - I have seen that with some of the younger  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 08:32 AM   #3 
  - And they are also in college, or in jobs that women couldn't have.  Ripley   Mar-03-04 08:43 AM   #5 
     - they'll change  dymaxia   Mar-03-04 11:01 AM   #29 
     - putting younger women down...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 02:09 PM   #89 
     - You don't really beleive this is true do you?  RoeBear   Mar-03-04 05:00 PM   #162 
  - This is not my area, but here are some basic definitions  AZCat   Mar-03-04 08:40 AM   #4 
  - And the issue is:  kiahzero   Mar-03-04 08:51 AM   #7 
  - a bit of history  iverglas   Mar-03-04 08:50 AM   #6 
  - some quick answers from a 'feminist'  pmbryant   Mar-03-04 08:59 AM   #8 
  - It takes a confident man  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 02:21 PM   #92 
     - Yes quite  Vladimir   Mar-04-04 10:39 AM   #202 
        - Thanks  cally   Mar-04-04 05:51 PM   #223 
  - My journey through feminism has changed over the years  Mari333   Mar-03-04 09:05 AM   #9 
  - limbaugh coined "feminazi"  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 09:09 AM   #10 
  - Here's some more on the term and you're correct on the origins  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 09:11 AM   #12 
  - As is proven over and over again, this isn't a progressive board.. (NT)  Atlant   Mar-03-04 09:09 AM   #11 
  - Please explain further  pmbryant   Mar-03-04 09:23 AM   #14 
     - Sorry, as you well know, the rules prevent this sort of discussion. (NT)  Atlant   Mar-03-04 09:26 AM   #15 
        - No, I don't know  pmbryant   Mar-03-04 09:29 AM   #16 
           - Here's the statement made by ProlesUnited that I was reacting to...  Atlant   Mar-03-04 09:39 AM   #17 
           - Perhaps it's time for a poll  pmbryant   Mar-03-04 09:45 AM   #18 
           - Jesus, this is about Kerry, isn't it?!?  RandomKoolzip   Mar-03-04 11:33 AM   #35 
           - No, actually.  Atlant   Mar-03-04 11:43 AM   #41 
              - Well, that's gonna happen.  RandomKoolzip   Mar-03-04 11:57 AM   #49 
                 - Thanks for your correction.  Atlant   Mar-03-04 12:53 PM   #81 
           - lol  Kamika   Mar-03-04 12:34 PM   #76 
              - I'm reasonably comfortable that people who disclaim feminism...  Atlant   Mar-03-04 01:07 PM   #84 
           - But should we accept someone's self-ascribed label?  AZCat   Mar-03-04 09:47 AM   #19 
              - The degree to which  supernova   Mar-03-04 09:50 AM   #20 
                 - This Buzzflash interview needs some props for addressing this  AZCat   Mar-03-04 09:55 AM   #21 
                 - I've become a big fan  supernova   Mar-03-04 10:07 AM   #22 
                 - Thank you for understanding  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 12:31 PM   #73 
  - feminism now is just a bunch of angry women  Kamika   Mar-03-04 10:19 AM   #23 
  - I stayed home out of choice with my kids and Im a feminist  Mari333   Mar-03-04 10:25 AM   #24 
  - nobody taught me it  Kamika   Mar-03-04 10:44 AM   #25 
  - well, if anyone yells at you for staying home with your kids  Mari333   Mar-03-04 10:56 AM   #27 
  - Feminist at-home mom with four kids right here  Maeve   Mar-03-04 11:02 AM   #30 
  - cheese, and you're *surprised*  iverglas   Mar-03-04 11:55 AM   #46 
     - I never called anyone a feminazi here.  Kamika   Mar-03-04 12:04 PM   #53 
  - I too am a feminist and stay-at-home mother  October   Mar-03-04 01:18 PM   #87 
  - How about concrete examples?  catzies   Mar-03-04 11:10 AM   #33 
  - Another feminist stay-at-home mom.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 11:35 AM   #36 
  - ok well thanks  Kamika   Mar-03-04 11:37 AM   #37 
     - Good.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 12:02 PM   #50 
  - So much here that I hardly know where to begin  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 11:39 AM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 12:04 PM   #52 
     - Bravo...well said  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 12:17 PM   #65 
     - This self respecting person does.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 12:29 PM   #72 
     - I got your back Pithlet.  Ripley   Mar-03-04 12:34 PM   #75 
     - Gee, where's my check for cleaning my house?  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 02:23 PM   #96 
        - That's priceless.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 02:28 PM   #99 
     - So, you're opinion  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 12:38 PM   #77 
     - It seems that stereotypes are everywhere.  Ripley   Mar-03-04 12:46 PM   #79 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:21 PM   #94 
        - Judgmental, much?  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 02:23 PM   #95 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:28 PM   #97 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:30 PM   #101 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:45 PM   #103 
                 - response  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 02:49 PM   #105 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:55 PM   #109 
                    - I read your first post.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 02:57 PM   #110 
                       - Oh, enlighten me, Great Message Board User  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:05 PM   #113 
                          - You can do whatever you want.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:15 PM   #117 
                          - damn..  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:19 PM   #120 
                             - That's okay Kamika.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:23 PM   #126 
                 - careful...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 03:04 PM   #112 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 03:08 PM   # 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 03:13 PM   #115 
                       - hee hee  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:18 PM   #119 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 03:22 PM   #124 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 03:34 PM   #135 
                             - just what is wrong with working at home?  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:39 PM   #139 
                             - Thats the single stupidest distinction I have ever seen  kcr   Mar-03-04 03:40 PM   #142 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 03:52 PM   #147 
                                - That's hilarious.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:54 PM   #148 
                                - *  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 04:01 PM   #154 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 04:04 PM   #156 
                                - rofl  Kamika   Mar-03-04 04:00 PM   #152 
                                - Of course you are  kcr   Mar-03-04 04:06 PM   #157 
                             - Oh, well, okay then.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:50 PM   #146 
                          - i'm not your honeybunch...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 03:49 PM   #145 
                       - It's that charm  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:17 PM   #118 
                       - Glad I could entertain you  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:20 PM   #122 
                          - I highly doubt it.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:24 PM   #127 
                       - Well, thanks  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 03:20 PM   #121 
                       - I responded when attacked  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:26 PM   #129 
                       - hey  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:28 PM   #132 
                          - Ahh, references to high literature  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:35 PM   #137 
                             - ROFL  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:39 PM   #140 
                                - Worst....quote....ever...  RoeBear   Mar-03-04 05:44 PM   #172 
                       - I'm sorry for taking the bait.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:26 PM   #130 
                       - rofl  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:23 PM   #125 
                       - and what do you do that allows you to post all afternoon?  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 03:32 PM   #134 
                          - Waiting for the furnace guy  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 03:39 PM   #141 
                             - yet you keep coming back.  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 03:59 PM   #151 
                             - I'll give you that -- truly a testament to how bored I am  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 04:06 PM   #158 
                             - Yes, you have added soooooo much  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 04:01 PM   #153 
           - Don't worry  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 02:28 PM   #98 
     - Spoken like someone who doesn't know what they are talking about  kcr   Mar-03-04 12:41 PM   #78 
        - That's a beautiful tribute to your wife.  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 01:04 PM   #83 
        - I am very lucky.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 01:14 PM   #86 
        - I stand by everything I said  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 02:17 PM   #90 
           - Why,  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 02:18 PM   #91 
           - not only keep the house  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:24 PM   #128 
           - Don't forget the bon bons.  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 03:27 PM   #131 
           - Blah balh indeed -- you are making a dumb distinction  kcr   Mar-03-04 03:44 PM   #143 
           - Don't forget the way she belittled her "friend" for staying at home.  blondeatlast   Mar-03-04 05:21 PM   #167 
           - What did my mom do?  blondeatlast   Mar-03-04 05:18 PM   #166 
              - moms, don't you get it?  mopinko   Mar-03-04 08:18 PM   #184 
                 - I'm afraid there seem to be more people that believe that than  blondeatlast   Mar-04-04 07:34 AM   #191 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 02:29 PM   #100 
        - What's YOUR opinion?  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 02:31 PM   #102 
        - Not really  Hammie   Mar-03-04 02:46 PM   #104 
           - but you will find the time to jugde them  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 02:50 PM   #108 
           - The rude ones  Hammie   Mar-03-04 08:17 PM   #183 
           - Then why on earth  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 02:59 PM   #111 
           - It was of interest  Hammie   Mar-03-04 08:13 PM   #182 
              - Well, that's because ONE disruptor saw to that  prolesunited   Mar-04-04 11:12 AM   #212 
           - I hope you get to meet someone who calls him/herself  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 03:15 PM   #116 
        - i find it akin to...  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 02:49 PM   #106 
        - I wish I knew how to reach people who are like this.  Atlant   Mar-04-04 08:10 AM   #193 
        - hey hammie  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:22 PM   #123 
  - i'm a feminist and i love men...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 01:59 PM   #88 
  - your post is astonishing in its ignorance  noiretblu   Mar-03-04 06:39 PM   #173 
  - those people are not feminists  mopinko   Mar-03-04 08:01 PM   #180 
  - Excuse me? Always a feminist & wish I could've stayed home w/ my kids  Hekate   Mar-04-04 04:59 PM   #221 
  - There's a new feminism out there  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 10:48 AM   #26 
  - yep I remember those days  Mari333   Mar-03-04 10:59 AM   #28 
  - My Mother  supernova   Mar-03-04 11:42 AM   #40 
  - I wonder where the men who always weigh in on abortion and discrmination  RationalRose   Mar-03-04 11:07 AM   #31 
  - Not sure  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 11:10 AM   #32 
  - One thing I figured out early on  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 11:25 AM   #34 
  - The true definition of a "feminazi"  oldcoot   Mar-03-04 12:18 PM   #66 
     - That's an interesting observation, because this guy was  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 03:08 PM   #114 
  - Your question has now been answered. :( (NT)  Atlant   Mar-03-04 11:44 AM   #42 
     - Yup, and by one of the 'usual suspects'  RationalRose   Mar-03-04 11:57 AM   #48 
  - You can take any victimhood-based worldview too far  Bombtrack   Mar-03-04 11:41 AM   #39 
  - Who IYHO is a feminazi?  supernova   Mar-03-04 11:47 AM   #44 
  - Could you explain better?  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 11:47 AM   #45 
  - So, when did your trouble with strong, outspoken women begin?  RationalRose   Mar-03-04 11:56 AM   #47 
  - LOL, RationalRose  Monica_L   Mar-03-04 12:10 PM   #55 
  - Gee, do you think his post was deleted  smirkymonkey   Mar-03-04 08:24 PM   #185 
  - I think he may be one of those around here who use  Ripley   Mar-03-04 12:11 PM   #56 
     - weird, weird  iverglas   Mar-03-04 12:17 PM   #63 
     - I've been wondering that for awhile. Good threads like this make me stay  catzies   Mar-03-04 12:19 PM   #67 
  - victimhood based?  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 12:06 PM   #54 
  - maybe we will be not "going too far"  iverglas   Mar-03-04 12:15 PM   #60 
     - "going too far"...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 07:46 PM   #177 
  - Umm, Just so you know  kcr   Mar-03-04 12:13 PM   #58 
  - Exactly.  Ripley   Mar-03-04 12:21 PM   #69 
  - man-haters  slappypan   Mar-03-04 12:14 PM   #59 
  - I don't think these broad generalizations  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 12:16 PM   #62 
  - just drawing on my experience  slappypan   Mar-03-04 12:20 PM   #68 
  - My experience as well--or they are deathly afraid of them  blondeatlast   Mar-03-04 05:26 PM   #169 
  - i think that is wishful thinking...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 02:21 PM   #93 
  - Feminazi: A term that means Rush Limbaugh has a small penis  noonwitch   Mar-03-04 11:46 AM   #43 
  - LOL! Thanks for the laugh  supernova   Mar-03-04 12:02 PM   #51 
  - Only truly ignorant people are opposed to feminism  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 12:12 PM   #57 
  - You said it!  Monica_L   Mar-03-04 12:15 PM   #61 
  - Love your avatar  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 12:17 PM   #64 
     - Thanks  Monica_L   Mar-03-04 12:22 PM   #70 
  - Not so sure about that  pmbryant   Mar-03-04 01:11 PM   #85 
  - Best quote that sums it up: Feminist = Not a doormat  throwthebumsout   Mar-03-04 12:25 PM   #71 
  - more great quotes  veganwitch   Mar-03-04 12:46 PM   #80 
     - Good ones!  Pithlet   Mar-03-04 12:54 PM   #82 
  - Proud feminist here!  skippysmom   Mar-03-04 12:34 PM   #74 
  - term / questions...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 02:49 PM   #107 
  - Dropped the ball  Mushroom   Mar-03-04 03:28 PM   #133 
  - Well, I think that was the whole point of the RW  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 03:36 PM   #138 
  - I think our "Queer" friends have shown us the way.  Atlant   Mar-04-04 08:16 AM   #194 
  - by reclaiming thunder  Mushroom   Mar-04-04 03:29 PM   #218 
  - i think leadership...  Ysabel   Mar-03-04 05:33 PM   #170 
  - Feminism is still very relevant  cally   Mar-03-04 03:35 PM   #136 
  - Since my first post turned into a big drama party I have a statement here.  Kamika   Mar-03-04 03:45 PM   #144 
  - You can be a feminist and believe that  cally   Mar-03-04 03:56 PM   #149 
  - Childcare is a big issue  Maeve   Mar-03-04 05:06 PM   #164 
     - pool of volunteers has dried up  mopinko   Mar-03-04 07:59 PM   #178 
  - Unfortunately  skippysmom   Mar-04-04 10:35 AM   #200 
  - your fantasy has never been a reality for most women in this world  noiretblu   Mar-04-04 03:41 PM   #220 
  - I'm all for feminism  Mass_Liberal   Mar-03-04 03:58 PM   #150 
  - And what is the term we should use  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 04:04 PM   #155 
     - Yes, the word "feminazi" is a dismissal of all feminism  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 04:51 PM   #161 
     - I don't condemn feminism at all  Mass_Liberal   Mar-03-04 08:52 PM   #186 
        - Men can be allies, so being "anti-man" is counterproductive  Logansquare   Mar-04-04 10:51 AM   #205 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-03-04 04:08 PM   #159 
  - This is a great thread, so let's try to stop the flaming  Logansquare   Mar-03-04 04:43 PM   #160 
  - I agree  Kamika   Mar-03-04 05:11 PM   #165 
  - sexism is the issue  wasp in a wig   Mar-03-04 05:23 PM   #168 
  - Sexism works both ways?  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 05:42 PM   #171 
  - we can't seem to talk about "isms" honestly  noiretblu   Mar-03-04 06:59 PM   #175 
     - no wonder this is such a heated discussion  wasp in a wig   Mar-03-04 07:39 PM   #176 
        - Well, you expressed yourself much better in this post  Logansquare   Mar-04-04 10:40 AM   #203 
        - no...i didn't misunderstand what you were saying  noiretblu   Mar-04-04 11:03 AM   #207 
  - Yes, in some ways  Nikia   Mar-04-04 09:10 AM   #198 
  - my answers to your questions  noiretblu   Mar-03-04 06:47 PM   #174 
  - New wave feminist here.  Katha   Mar-03-04 08:01 PM   #179 
  - fascinating discussion  maxanne   Mar-03-04 08:09 PM   #181 
  - You're welcome!  prolesunited   Mar-03-04 09:49 PM   #187 
  - I am a feminist  populistmom   Mar-03-04 11:24 PM   #188 
  - I don't know much about feminism...  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 12:17 AM   #189 
  - since you're on a campus  maxanne   Mar-04-04 07:34 AM   #190 
     - My thoughts:  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 10:25 AM   #199 
        - Hmm...maybe they don't think you are sympathetic?  Logansquare   Mar-04-04 10:38 AM   #201 
        - Oh yes, wasting your time.  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 11:03 AM   #208 
        - So much there to comment on.  Ripley   Mar-04-04 10:46 AM   #204 
        - What can you do?  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 11:01 AM   #206 
           - "she must like doing that kind of work"  Maeve   Mar-04-04 11:11 AM   #210 
              - So...  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 11:20 AM   #213 
              - Exactly. That's what I meant by "many forces."  Ripley   Mar-04-04 11:22 AM   #214 
                 - Um...  Vittorio   Mar-04-04 11:26 AM   #216 
                    - Your focus is too narrow.  Pithlet   Mar-04-04 03:40 PM   #219 
        - my thoughts for you  maxanne   Mar-04-04 05:30 PM   #222 
           - Someone should tell us  Pithlet   Mar-04-04 06:04 PM   #224 
              - yes, Pithlet  maxanne   Mar-04-04 06:15 PM   #225 
  - I am a feminist  Nikia   Mar-04-04 08:00 AM   #192 
  - good topic for discussion  buddhamama   Mar-04-04 08:23 AM   #195 
  - HOLY CRAP!  Ripley   Mar-04-04 08:34 AM   #196 
  - Actually, it was only one  prolesunited   Mar-04-04 11:09 AM   #209 
  - Proud to be a feminist  kayell   Mar-04-04 08:49 AM   #197 
  - Sexism in language reflects sexism in society  TahitiNut   Mar-04-04 11:11 AM   #211 
  - Back to basics  forradalom   Mar-04-04 11:22 AM   #215 
     - LOL  Vladimir   Mar-04-04 12:45 PM   #217 
 

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