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77. Nader could help define Kerry
Hi, I am brand new to DU and this is my first post. Let me introduce myself. A am a stay home Mommy of 3 who is a political junkie as well. Bare with me if this point/theory has already been made. I was (am) a staunch Dean-supporter becuase IMO he was the only true anti-war candidate. Perhaps Nader entering the race will force Kerry to become more clear on his IRAQ position - and become the clear anti-war choice. I am sure I'm not the only one who thinks Kerry has been a bit cloudy on exactly where he stands. His voting record is spotty. Maybe Nader will be a good thing for the party - pulling it back the left instead in the center. What do you all think?
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  -Ralph Nader on the Conservative Idiot List???? Rationality  Feb-22-04 10:57 PM   #0 
  - You bring up the very issues that I have been asking...  kalian   Feb-22-04 10:59 PM   #1 
  - Maybe "the people" in Berkeley.  RandomKoolzip   Feb-22-04 11:10 PM   #9 
  - As one of the people close to Berkely, I must protest  alittlelark   Feb-23-04 12:19 AM   #72 
  - Don't feel like a jerk. It's the voting system you should blame.  blurp   Feb-23-04 01:05 AM   #80 
  - the march issue of scientific american has an article about just that  Chef_Ramen_Noodle   Feb-23-04 06:46 AM   #100 
  - Always a pleasure, RKZ! You said it well--  blondeatlast   Feb-23-04 06:49 AM   #101 
  - last time I looked our party was the party of diverse opinions. Every  roguevalley   Feb-23-04 01:31 AM   #82 
  - last time I looked  lazarus   Feb-23-04 09:51 AM   #118 
     - Tsk, tsk...  chiburb   Feb-23-04 11:48 AM   #141 
  - Surely  WorstPresidentEver   Feb-23-04 09:22 AM   #109 
  - Disagree.  donco6   Feb-22-04 11:03 PM   #2 
  - is he a conservative  bpilgrim   Feb-22-04 11:06 PM   #4 
     - No, but the "idiot" part is worth two slots alone.  donco6   Feb-22-04 11:22 PM   # 
     - He's an idiot.  japanduh   Feb-22-04 11:34 PM   #39 
        - Nader will serve to up the stakes for both  physaf   Feb-23-04 11:10 AM   #120 
  - Kudos to admin for placing Nader in this week's top 10  jchild   Feb-22-04 11:05 PM   #3 
  - agreed  Blue_Chill   Feb-22-04 11:22 PM   #24 
  - Agreed! Go Admins!  Kahuna   Feb-22-04 11:53 PM   #49 
  - agreed  Lindacooks   Feb-23-04 01:47 AM   #85 
  - AGREE!  Killarney   Feb-23-04 07:05 AM   #106 
  - I think it's great!  NNadir   Feb-22-04 11:06 PM   #5 
  - Sily misinformed you. Nader was a vocal opponent of the war -- I heard him  Oregonian   Feb-22-04 11:16 PM   #17 
     - Your responses are well thought out  physaf   Feb-23-04 11:12 AM   #121 
  - "He's not our enemy." ???????  nostamj   Feb-22-04 11:08 PM   #6 
  - I don't know if it is proper to characterize it as a "lie" ...  physaf   Feb-23-04 11:14 AM   #122 
  - I just read them. Both entries about him are true.  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-22-04 11:08 PM   #7 
  - agreed  lunabush   Feb-22-04 11:30 PM   #36 
  - ah,  Captain Absolut   Feb-22-04 11:49 PM   #47 
     - Uhhh. In elections, it kinda works like that.  Kahuna   Feb-22-04 11:55 PM   #50 
     - Yes, exactly  MurikanDemocrat   Feb-23-04 01:19 AM   #81 
     - Umm, that's what Ralph is doing.  Liberal_Guerilla   Feb-23-04 01:32 AM   #83 
  - I'm not familiar with the Democrat Party  syrinx9999   Feb-22-04 11:10 PM   #8 
  - Nor am I.  DesertDem   Feb-23-04 06:43 AM   #98 
  - You are a thoughtful young voter who has obviously studied history ...  Oregonian   Feb-22-04 11:10 PM   #10 
  - As such, he has no business posting to DU!  NightTrain   Feb-22-04 11:21 PM   #23 
  - You're welcome Oregonian  Rationality   Feb-23-04 12:10 AM   #66 
  - I think the admin needs to place himself on the list next  Camaro   Feb-22-04 11:10 PM   #11 
  - That doesn't matter here...  FDRrocks   Feb-22-04 11:16 PM   #16 
  - Yes, he's done many wonderful things.  mac56   Feb-23-04 09:31 AM   #110 
  - I can't believe they put that great man on that list! I am outraged!  Blue_Chill   Feb-22-04 11:13 PM   #12 
  - I knew you lied.  Kahuna   Feb-22-04 11:56 PM   #51 
     - hehehe  Blue_Chill   Feb-23-04 09:41 AM   #112 
  - idiot is too soft a characterization . . .  bigskydem   Feb-22-04 11:14 PM   #13 
  - Agreed, that pisses me off.....  FDRrocks   Feb-22-04 11:15 PM   #14 
  - Thank you!  NightTrain   Feb-22-04 11:15 PM   #15 
  - (((Night Train)))  FDRrocks   Feb-22-04 11:17 PM   #20 
  - Always glad to help!  NightTrain   Feb-22-04 11:27 PM   #30 
  - DO NOT BOYCOTT the top 10 list and disparage it.  MsUnderstood   Feb-22-04 11:41 PM   #44 
  - I'm not disparaging the Top Ten; I'll start reading it again next week.  NightTrain   Feb-22-04 11:57 PM   #52 
  - Nader is an enemy to "Democrats." This is a Democratic..  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:00 AM   #55 
  - Clinton's policy was  DennisReveni   Feb-23-04 06:53 AM   #103 
  - as someone who gets to utilise preferential voting  Djinn   Feb-23-04 06:48 PM   #160 
  - Thanks NightTrain. Thanks a lot. My thoughts too. n/t  Tinoire   Feb-22-04 11:42 PM   #45 
  - A pity party for Nader? Excuse me if I don't join.  Kahuna   Feb-22-04 11:58 PM   #53 
     - Since you can't tell the difference between pity and simple respect...  NightTrain   Feb-23-04 12:01 AM   #56 
     - He is responsible for too much destruction to be deserving  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:22 AM   #75 
        - What destruction do you think he is responsible for?  physaf   Feb-23-04 11:21 AM   #124 
     - I doubt you even really give a shit about that stuff  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 12:09 AM   #64 
     - Let me explain, "not bother," Personally, it will affect  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 06:13 AM   #89 
        - I think you're full of it  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 08:05 PM   #165 
     - that's right  Djinn   Feb-23-04 06:56 PM   #161 
  - Look who's being a tad soft  Alenne   Feb-22-04 11:17 PM   #18 
  - Kumbaya - Ha! Now that's funny!  feistydem   Feb-22-04 11:30 PM   #35 
  - And once again...  Bluzmann57   Feb-22-04 11:17 PM   #19 
  - They stole it but  Blue_Chill   Feb-22-04 11:20 PM   #22 
  - Thank you for you common sense and intelligence. Nader should be admired  Oregonian   Feb-22-04 11:22 PM   #25 
  - admired? Yup I'll put right next to Hannity on my least admired list  Blue_Chill   Feb-22-04 11:27 PM   #32 
     - How does Nader do more damage?  FDRrocks   Feb-22-04 11:29 PM   #34 
        - How many democrats have you met....  Blue_Chill   Feb-22-04 11:34 PM   #38 
           - I read on this very site...  FDRrocks   Feb-22-04 11:36 PM   #41 
  - Whatever. He still is working against us. That's the point.  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:01 AM   #57 
  - You REALLY believe that nader didn't  DiverDave   Feb-23-04 06:44 AM   #99 
  - Two words: New Hampshire  wellstone_democrat   Feb-23-04 07:02 AM   #105 
  - A Vote for Nader Is A Vote For Bush (If He Changes Your Vote)  LoneStarLiberal   Feb-22-04 11:20 PM   #21 
  - he already said he lost no sleep over 2000 - he doesn't have a conscience  Woodstock   Feb-22-04 11:26 PM   #28 
  - Good for DU, right on, applause, way to go, amen  Woodstock   Feb-22-04 11:22 PM   #26 
  - I don't think Ralph is a conservative ... but he is an idiot and ..  feistydem   Feb-22-04 11:25 PM   #27 
  - some WOULD say  leftofthedial   Feb-22-04 11:27 PM   #29 
  - Nader has declared himself an enemy to the Democrats  Doomsayer13   Feb-22-04 11:27 PM   #31 
  - Conservative Idiots list?  bvar22   Feb-22-04 11:28 PM   #33 
  - Yup  Doomsayer13   Feb-22-04 11:31 PM   #37 
  - Dean addressed DU's anger and look where it got him.  Liberal_Guerilla   Feb-22-04 11:35 PM   #40 
  - Isn't it amazing how the true believers still defend this POS?  Unknown Known   Feb-22-04 11:36 PM   #42 
  - I don't know about idiot  furrylitldevil   Feb-22-04 11:38 PM   #43 
  - Sorry  Rowdyboy   Feb-22-04 11:48 PM   #46 
  - He IS the reason my nephew's life has been ruined.  The Zanti Regent   Feb-23-04 12:00 AM   #54 
     - Sorry about your nephew, but...  Rationality   Feb-23-04 12:03 AM   #59 
     - yet you support Kerry  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 12:06 AM   #61 
     - Bush didn't need Kerry's permission or vote to go to war...  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:09 AM   #65 
        - Nader is more directly to blame than Nader is?  Rationality   Feb-23-04 12:15 AM   #68 
        - And Kerry wants 40,000 more  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 12:15 AM   #69 
           - And bush will give you a draft. Count on it!  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:17 AM   #70 
              - So what's Kerry's excuse?  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 12:20 AM   #74 
                 - Did you miss the part about bush not needing Kerry's vote...  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 06:17 AM   #90 
                    - Exactly  Forkboy   Feb-23-04 07:41 PM   #164 
     - I am so sorry about your nephew. I too think Ralph is  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:08 AM   #62 
     - You clearly support a man  Djinn   Feb-23-04 07:05 PM   #162 
  - Well that does it! The Dems don't want my vote!  Kahuna   Feb-22-04 11:51 PM   #48 
  - He deserves it.  tedoll78   Feb-23-04 12:03 AM   #58 
  - Do you plan to do it in the Bush?  Rationality   Feb-23-04 12:05 AM   #60 
     - I refer to other things as Bush.  tedoll78   Feb-23-04 12:08 AM   #63 
  - He has earned his place there rightfully with the qualifications provided  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-23-04 12:13 AM   #67 
  - For those of you who choose to defend Nader  Sandpiper   Feb-23-04 12:17 AM   #71 
  - Nader supporters want bush to win. Don't you get it?  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 12:20 AM   #73 
     - I hate to paint with broad strokes  Sandpiper   Feb-23-04 12:27 AM   #76 
     - If this "miniscule minority" is such a concern...  Devils Advocate NZ   Feb-23-04 03:15 AM   #87 
        - They are free to accept the Democratic party or not..  Kahuna   Feb-23-04 06:26 AM   #91 
           - Yet this "miniscule minority" can lose the election for the Dems?  Devils Advocate NZ   Feb-23-04 02:29 PM   #154 
  - Nader could help define Kerry  ProgMommy   Feb-23-04 12:33 AM   #77 
  - Welcome to DU!!!!  FDRrocks   Feb-23-04 12:52 AM   #78 
  - Thanks  ProgMommy   Feb-23-04 12:58 AM   #79 
     - Welcome to DU, ProgMommy!  orangepeel68   Feb-23-04 09:47 AM   #117 
  - I think you don't know the Democratic candidates very well  Tinoire   Feb-23-04 01:43 AM   #84 
     - So,  Pithlet   Feb-23-04 07:08 PM   #163 
        - Harsh? Click on the profile and tell my how harsh that was  Tinoire   Feb-24-04 11:05 PM   #166 
  - I agree with you, Rationality.  Cat Atomic   Feb-23-04 02:12 AM   #86 
  - Accuracy doesn't matter.  Iverson   Feb-23-04 06:13 AM   #88 
  - No harm, no foul  SaddenedDem   Feb-23-04 06:28 AM   #92 
  - LOL  Sandpiper   Feb-23-04 02:49 PM   #155 
  - Made my morning!  union_maid   Feb-23-04 06:32 AM   #93 
  - Who does he "Advocate" for?  BiggJawn   Feb-23-04 06:34 AM   #94 
  - Nader's ego is running for president  Loonman   Feb-23-04 06:34 AM   #95 
  - Agreed. He belongs on that list as a right-wing enabler.  Zynx   Feb-23-04 06:37 AM   #96 
     - I guess  DennisReveni   Feb-23-04 06:56 AM   #104 
        - If they become sore losers and try to play spoiler  Blue_Chill   Feb-23-04 12:07 PM   #144 
  - Ya Know  DennisReveni   Feb-23-04 06:41 AM   #97 
  - Nader as an advocate for public safety did some good things,  8643   Feb-23-04 06:52 AM   #102 
  - Dems/D+ Repubs/D-  ProfessorGAC   Feb-23-04 09:12 AM   #107 
  - Nader hate sickens me...I suppose the EPA, seat belt laws...  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 09:18 AM   #108 
  - Precisely.  mac56   Feb-23-04 09:44 AM   #113 
  - I disagree  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 09:46 AM   #115 
     - If he's indeed "the leader of the left" -  mac56   Feb-23-04 09:52 AM   #119 
        - Bye! Don't come back!  JohnLocke   Feb-23-04 11:35 AM   #133 
           - who, me?  mac56   Feb-23-04 11:47 AM   #139 
              - Sorry, misplaced response  JohnLocke   Feb-23-04 02:16 PM   #152 
  - If you help an one old lady across the street can you then kill one...  Blue_Chill   Feb-23-04 09:45 AM   #114 
  - wrong  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 09:47 AM   #116 
  - If Nader had stuck to fighting the auto industry  mobuto   Feb-23-04 11:23 AM   #125 
     - yes, he is very much responsible for the EPA  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 11:30 AM   #129 
        - The Bush Administration is a pretty-big negative  mobuto   Feb-23-04 11:46 AM   #138 
           - That's nice  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 11:48 AM   #140 
              - "The Establishment"?  mobuto   Feb-23-04 01:50 PM   #148 
                 - no sir, the Establishment transcends party lines  OhioStateProgressive   Feb-23-04 02:11 PM   #150 
  - Yes!  LeahMira   Feb-23-04 09:33 AM   #111 
  - Huge difference between Kucinich, Sharpton and Nader  mobuto   Feb-23-04 11:32 AM   #130 
  - as well he should be  drdigi420   Feb-23-04 11:19 AM   #123 
  - Well, he's certainly an idiot. Close enough for me.  John_H   Feb-23-04 11:27 AM   #126 
  - the final straw for me  ann_coulter_is_a_man   Feb-23-04 11:27 AM   #127 
  - Don't let the door hit you  mobuto   Feb-23-04 11:30 AM   #128 
  - at least the nation  ann_coulter_is_a_man   Feb-23-04 11:33 AM   #132 
     - You can leave our "DLC shill" website now.  JohnLocke   Feb-23-04 11:36 AM   #135 
     - DLC OMG OMFG THE DLC ONOS!  Blue_Chill   Feb-23-04 12:01 PM   #142 
  - Bye!  tedoll78   Feb-23-04 11:32 AM   #131 
     - we'll leave the enabling to John Kerry  ann_coulter_is_a_man   Feb-23-04 11:35 AM   #134 
        - Who's We?  ProfessorGAC   Feb-23-04 11:39 AM   #136 
        - Kerry's voting record - yup Enabler  mobuto   Feb-23-04 11:44 AM   #137 
  - Very Bold move by DU if you ask me.......And I agree %100  SideshowScott   Feb-23-04 12:05 PM   #143 
  - From words right out of Nader's mouth -  FlaGranny   Feb-23-04 01:16 PM   #145 
  - He did that in 2000  1gobluedem   Feb-23-04 02:14 PM   #151 
  - It made my day!  truthbetold   Feb-23-04 01:23 PM   #146 
  - Completely Appropriate, as he is an Idiot (nm)  throwthebumsout   Feb-23-04 01:43 PM   #147 
  - DU is a joke  PatrickS   Feb-23-04 01:54 PM   #149 
  - Now that I wouldn't agree with... (n/t)  Rationality   Feb-23-04 02:19 PM   #153 
  - What a way to go  candy331   Feb-23-04 06:23 PM   #156 
     - Well said n/t  FDRrocks   Feb-23-04 06:33 PM   #157 
  - For other reasons, Nader shouldn't be up there  HypnoToad   Feb-23-04 06:39 PM   #158 
  - We only have ourselves to blame.  Sterling   Feb-23-04 06:40 PM   #159 
  - Yeah might as well put Abe Lincoln and FDR up there too  GreenPartyVoter   Feb-24-04 11:08 PM   #167 
 

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