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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 09:18 AM
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25. Please, no more lies.
That is why candidates are so centrist, no matter what they truly believe. That is politics. The key is to get elected.

That is why voters are so disgusted with politics in general. Candidates go for the center when they are running and then swing to either the left or the right after they get in power. The average voter feels lied to and concludes that all politicians are a bunch of crooks.

Bush is losing ground now because the folks who supported him in 2000 had no idea that he was so radically right wing. They are seeing their jobs sent overseas, and are beginning to realize that corporations are not benevolent institutions that provide jobs and prosperity for American workers. They are beginning to understand that it doesn't matter how much of their earned income they get to keep because even with tax cuts they can't possibly, as individuals, pay the rising costs of their own health care. They are finding out that the invasion of Iraq, which was supposed to be such a piece of cake, is demanding that their sons and daughters remain overseas indefinitely. IOW, Bush posed as a centrist-leaning conservative to get votes, and then let people down.

Now you want the Democratic candidate to pose as a centrist-leaning liberal to get votes?
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  - your not thinking this through  shooga   Feb-22-04 10:31 PM   #4 
  - Blow Up  orwell   Feb-23-04 12:15 AM   #10 
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        - Either Or  orwell   Feb-23-04 09:44 AM   #26 
        - I'm not so sure whether Nader will help or hurt Kerry.  physaf   Feb-23-04 10:50 AM   #31 
           - Corporate KO  orwell   Feb-23-04 11:01 AM   #35 
  - Saw the Soundbite...  MrPrax   Feb-22-04 10:34 PM   #5 
  - Groucho Government  orwell   Feb-23-04 12:23 AM   #11 
     - Please, no more lies.  LeahMira   Feb-23-04 09:18 AM   #25 
        - Lie in State  orwell   Feb-23-04 10:05 AM   #28 
  - Finally, some thoughtful, intelligent commentary about Ralph Nader ...  Oregonian   Feb-22-04 10:35 PM   #7 
  - It would be great if Kerry would manage to get a more  physaf   Feb-23-04 10:55 AM   #32 
  - If the concept is just for Nader to give anti-Bush speeches, then  Eric J in MN   Feb-23-04 12:08 AM   #9 
  - The real purpose is to force the Democratic Party to...  bvar22   Feb-23-04 12:27 AM   #12 
  - what of course would be nice  G_j   Feb-23-04 05:48 AM   #19 
     - I don't think that it works to just "get out the message"  physaf   Feb-23-04 10:58 AM   #33 
  - Ralph sounds great, there is no question  cboy4   Feb-23-04 12:39 AM   #13 
  - Ralph E. Quixote  dbt   Feb-23-04 03:27 AM   #14 
  - Go Ralph  Piperay   Feb-23-04 03:57 AM   #16 
  - One of the guys chanting "go ralph go' was wearing a Catholic University  Liberal_Guerilla   Feb-23-04 05:02 AM   #18 
  - and you know this, how? n/t  G_j   Feb-23-04 05:56 AM   #20 
  - The Second Coming  orwell   Feb-23-04 10:14 AM   #29 
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  - Gambit  orwell   Feb-23-04 01:54 PM   #41 
  - Depends upon where he directs his fire  KevinJ   Feb-23-04 10:59 AM   #34 
  - I Agree  orwell   Feb-23-04 11:03 AM   #37 
  - I'm not sure I agree  nothingshocksmeanymore   Feb-23-04 11:31 AM   #38 
     - Thanks  orwell   Feb-23-04 12:09 PM   #39 
        - Orwell, I've really appreciated your analysis on this thread....  loudsue   Feb-23-04 12:26 PM   #40 
           - The Luxury of Hate  orwell   Feb-23-04 03:00 PM   #43 

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