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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:12 PM
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23. With your permission, daveskilt
The following was posted as a new thread in GD, and was locked by moderators as a dulicate. I think daveskilt post deserves to be aired and discussed. I copied the following from the locked thread.

Reasons Nader running is a GOOD thing.

1. Huzzah for democracy - 2 parties only was always a bad idea. (see simpsons episode with kang and kronos posing as bob dole and bill clinton)

2. He can be the attack dog. He can say anything about Bush knowing that it isnt going to alter his chances of actually winning.

3. The repubs are going to have to deal with him on some level.

4. In swing states anyone informed enough to vote for Nader is informed enough to know that in their state they need to beat bush and vote dem this time (I'm assuming that nader voters would want rid of bush as much if not more than dems)

5. Nader brings people out to the polls who may not have voted (again huzzah for democracy) he gets people interested in issues that they care about that are often neglected - many of those people will hear his message and think - hey this bush guy really is awful on issues I care about, I will show up and vote this time (maybe for nader maybe for the dem, but not bush) or some who would have voted bush will hear Nader and decide not to.

6. Will he pull some dem voters? yes probably. but after 2000 I find it unlikely that florida or NH voters will risk it - states like Utah which will vote republican no matter what (I wonder what would happen if Hilary Clinton ran for president as a republican. I think many scannersesque head explosions in Utah would result. they would have no idea what to do ) - sure go vote Nader.

7. He can help keep the democratic party honest and not bush lite. He pulls support if the dems dont stay in touch with the left base.



I really don't see a reason for the anti-Nader hysterics. Is the Democratic party sooo weak that a single man can destroy it. If Nader's message is strong enough to destroy the Democratic Party, then we have a REAL PROBLEM.



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  - Bush leaning Greens!  salinen   Feb-20-04 07:07 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, ok dude!  KissMyAsscroft   Feb-20-04 07:07 PM   #2 
  - God, that phrase makes me laugh hysterically!  Hardhead   Feb-22-04 03:53 PM   #28 
  - You might want to re-consider the "Bush leaning Greens" bit....  EXE619K   Feb-20-04 07:11 PM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-20-04 07:15 PM   #4 
  - "Ralph Nader is like a saint coming down to earth and live amongst us"  Champion_Jack   Feb-20-04 07:47 PM   #9 
  - Ralph addressed this in his Commondreams post  dweller   Feb-20-04 07:29 PM   #5 
  - my bad, i meant Nation article/letter  dweller   Feb-20-04 08:46 PM   #11 
  - ABB or you are GOP  Mari333   Feb-20-04 07:29 PM   #6 
  - Well said, Mari333!  amBushed   Feb-20-04 09:35 PM   #13 
  - Agree, this is a matter of life or death  Woodstock   Feb-20-04 09:44 PM   #15 
  - But the front runners  God_bush_n_cheney   Feb-22-04 10:22 AM   #20 
     - logical disconnect ?  bvar22   Feb-22-04 01:04 PM   #22 
     - So?  Lindacooks   Feb-22-04 02:08 PM   #25 
  - Bush leaning Greens?  KG   Feb-20-04 07:32 PM   #7 
  - Bush-leaning Greens: as rare as the "missing link," I'd say......  hlthe2b   Feb-20-04 09:20 PM   #12 
  - Bush-leaning Greens is not a joke. See Selection 2000.  TruthIsAll   Feb-23-04 05:18 AM   #33 
  - Environment-hating Greens, for sure  Woodstock   Feb-20-04 09:46 PM   #16 
  - Hopefully, he'll make our candidate LOOK less liberal  orangepeel68   Feb-20-04 07:33 PM   #8 
  - Stupid Raphie  knight_of_the_star   Feb-20-04 07:51 PM   #10 
  - "Bush leaning Greens"  RowWellandLive   Feb-20-04 09:40 PM   #14 
  - Depends on the party.  Cleita   Feb-20-04 09:47 PM   #17 
  - Pissed off Repukes will cast a protest vote for Ralph Rotten  TruthIsAll   Feb-22-04 09:52 AM   #18 
  - He claims he wants to help the people,  devinsgram   Feb-22-04 10:20 AM   #19 
  - "Bush-leaning Greens"? Dude! Don't bogart that fatty!  BiggJawn   Feb-22-04 10:25 AM   #21 
  - With your permission, daveskilt  bvar22   Feb-22-04 01:12 PM   #23 
  - You need to understand why we have a real problem with Nader  amBushed   Feb-22-04 02:11 PM   #26 
     - OK. so let's kill Ralph...  bvar22   Feb-22-04 03:32 PM   #27 
        - Nader is ONE PART of the problem  amBushed   Feb-22-04 04:09 PM   #29 
  - Environmentalists for Bush?  bushwakker   Feb-22-04 01:14 PM   #24 
  - HAHAHAHA!!!!  brainwashed_youth   Feb-22-04 04:10 PM   #30 
  - "Bush* leaning Green"  wellstone_democrat   Feb-22-04 04:18 PM   #31 
  - I agree the votes for Nader will come from repukes  Ksec   Feb-22-04 04:42 PM   #32 
  - All right!  Liberal_Guerilla   Feb-23-04 05:21 AM   #34 
 

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