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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #111
113. You say so do you?
So it's true is it?

Your USA mentaltity is showing. Other people think different things.
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  -Why does the French government not believe in religious freedom? 2004Donkeys  Feb-14-04 06:55 PM   #0 
  - They do not allow any religious symbols in school. What you  LittleApple81   Feb-14-04 06:57 PM   #1 
  - Geezus ...  WillW   Feb-14-04 11:25 PM   #57 
  - It's the same as banning gang colors.  aquart   Feb-15-04 03:50 AM   #78 
     - No it's not. It's a matter of personal identity.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 07:58 AM   #95 
  - What I want to know is who proposed the law  wuushew   Feb-14-04 07:02 PM   #2 
  - What's wrong with it? They're trying to enforce separation of church and..  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 07:03 PM   #3 
  - If the kids have to surrender their religious freedom at the door...  southerngirlwriter   Feb-14-04 07:07 PM   #4 
  - And the law is unnecessarily vague  wuushew   Feb-14-04 07:10 PM   #6 
  - what place does religious symbolism have in a secular school?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 07:17 PM   #10 
  - That's awfully judgmental  southerngirlwriter   Feb-14-04 07:31 PM   #19 
  - Better than waiting for the religio-nuts to declare everything they say to  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 10:39 PM   #32 
     - How dare anyone not follow the state religion  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 12:02 AM   #64 
        - like Israel's state religion?  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 12:11 AM   #68 
           - Israel is a pluralistic society  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 07:36 AM   #90 
  - No. It says that these girls feel purer than the other girls.  aquart   Feb-15-04 03:55 AM   #79 
  - What kind of conditioning  Karenina   Feb-14-04 09:55 PM   #28 
     - "any real exposure"  southerngirlwriter   Feb-14-04 10:32 PM   #31 
        - Sorry SGW, I see  Karenina   Feb-15-04 06:48 AM   #88 
  - this has nothing to do with seperation of church and state as you think  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 07:15 PM   #8 
  - All the Algerian immigrants from the 1970's turned out fine  wuushew   Feb-14-04 07:18 PM   #11 
  - This was generally prior to the rise of radical Islam  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 07:23 PM   #14 
  - huh?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 07:19 PM   #12 
     - because I believe thats what it is.  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 07:23 PM   #15 
     - Islam is what it is...a religion  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 10:46 PM   #37 
     - That IS what this is.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:06 AM   #98 
  - At last we have a parting of the ways  RapidCreek   Feb-14-04 07:32 PM   #20 
  - if they (meaning the parents) are THAT --apart-- from secular life  kenny blankenship   Feb-14-04 07:46 PM   #21 
  - Bingo!  smirkymonkey   Feb-14-04 09:55 PM   #29 
  - whateva  Broken   Feb-14-04 10:48 PM   #39 
  - ......  Broken   Feb-14-04 10:58 PM   #47 
  - School uniforms and dress codes...  LeahMira   Feb-15-04 07:13 AM   #89 
  - Which will put the girls completely under religious control.  aquart   Feb-15-04 03:58 AM   #81 
  - What??? What the HELL is this?  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:12 AM   #102 
  - OK fine...then kids should be allowed to come to school naked as well  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 10:45 PM   #36 
  - ok  Broken   Feb-14-04 11:04 PM   #51 
  - what else is appropriate?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 11:36 PM   #60 
     - //////  Broken   Feb-14-04 11:55 PM   #63 
        - ok...so you have no problem if they start putting Ten Commandments  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 12:09 AM   #66 
           - ,,,,,  Broken   Feb-15-04 01:07 AM   #73 
           - You need to study up on the 1st Amendment.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:16 AM   #103 
  - hyperbole  rman   Feb-15-04 03:19 AM   #75 
  - At last?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 11:00 PM   #48 
  - Not actually...most of the time we agree on things  RapidCreek   Feb-15-04 04:47 AM   #82 
  - Whoa!  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 06:08 AM   #87 
     - Religion is not central to the business of statehood...  RapidCreek   Feb-15-04 08:08 AM   #100 
     - Bollocks  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:34 AM   #109 
     - That's fascism. You're contradicting yourself. nt  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:17 AM   #104 
        - Now hold on  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:30 AM   #107 
           - "I'd prefer the religious to keep their views in their churches."  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:38 AM   #111 
              - You say so do you?  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:42 AM   #113 
                 - Freedom:  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:45 AM   #115 
  - then why do they meddle with expression of religion  rman   Feb-15-04 03:17 AM   #74 
  - why? is there some other country that allows religious freedom?  ixion   Feb-14-04 07:09 PM   #5 
  - the US is among the best in this area.  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 07:17 PM   #9 
  - shit...try setting up a Wiccan church anywhere but cities in the US  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 07:20 PM   #13 
  - In Saudi Arabia  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 07:25 PM   #16 
     - Catholics and Jews are still treated like shit in some areas of the US  RationalRose   Feb-14-04 10:00 PM   # 
     - try being one in Belfast in the wrong neighborhood  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 10:42 PM   #34 
        - That's a Civil War that's been going on for decades  RationalRose   Feb-14-04 10:47 PM   #38 
           - the situation you describe in this country has been going on as long  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 10:52 PM   #43 
     - well, that sucks  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 10:50 PM   #41 
        - I seem to recall we're largely out of that country  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 10:53 PM   #44 
           - are you kidding? you mean Saudi?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 11:02 PM   #49 
              - we were buying oil AND operating huge military bases  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 11:05 PM   #52 
                 - we started out on religious freedom  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 11:23 PM   #56 
  - Hogwash. The only religion that is accepted in the US  ixion   Feb-14-04 09:15 PM   #25 
     - acceptance is a matter of personal choice  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 09:20 PM   #26 
        - no, there's more than just personal acceptance... there is public  ixion   Feb-14-04 09:34 PM   #27 
           - you make a statement but don't back it up  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 10:49 PM   #40 
  - up untill now 'ordinary' expression of religion was allowed..  rman   Feb-15-04 03:23 AM   #76 
  - France - This is a real bad thing that will grow more terrorists.  fearnobush   Feb-14-04 07:15 PM   #7 
  - The ban also affects crucifixes, skull caps, and other religious articles  kenny blankenship   Feb-14-04 07:28 PM   #17 
  - I think it has to do with French history and culture  I_like_chicken   Feb-14-04 07:31 PM   #18 
  - History  rlev1223   Feb-14-04 07:51 PM   #22 
  - Slavery  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 12:12 AM   #70 
  - compared to st. bartholomew's day massacre, this is minor.  kodi   Feb-14-04 08:16 PM   #23 
  - BG article / NY Times  rlev1223   Feb-14-04 08:34 PM   #24 
  - ## Support Democratic Underground! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-14-04 10:00 PM   #30 
  - Why doesn't CHIRAC believe in religious freedom?  Product of Evolution   Feb-14-04 10:40 PM   #33 
  - and you guys around here think he's the cat;'s meow  arewethereyet   Feb-14-04 10:54 PM   #46 
     - I don't..  Product of Evolution   Feb-14-04 11:25 PM   #58 
  - I Can Understand It...Not Saying I Agree With The Law But  K8-EEE   Feb-14-04 10:43 PM   #35 
  - because france has always been a contradictory joke  vamil93   Feb-14-04 10:51 PM   #42 
  - why do you say that?  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 10:53 PM   #45 
     - oh, i just don't like the french  vamil93   Feb-14-04 11:03 PM   #50 
        - Oh what crap  RationalRose   Feb-14-04 11:10 PM   #53 
        - well  vamil93   Feb-14-04 11:18 PM   #54 
           - Genocide? Where do they commit genocide?  RationalRose   Feb-14-04 11:22 PM   #55 
           - links, links, links  vamil93   Feb-14-04 11:37 PM   #61 
           - We in the U.S. aren't perfect...  LeahMira   Feb-15-04 07:44 AM   #93 
        - france didn't french the fries  Terwilliger   Feb-14-04 11:25 PM   #59 
           - oh well  vamil93   Feb-14-04 11:50 PM   #62 
              - oh?  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 12:08 AM   #65 
                 - why, only skin color of course  vamil93   Feb-15-04 12:09 AM   #67 
                    - Not many european Americans realize there are other types  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 12:12 AM   #69 
  - Education isn't what you do for kids, it's what you do TO them  blurp   Feb-15-04 12:47 AM   #71 
  - Oh No, He's Right!  Locke_   Feb-15-04 05:33 AM   #84 
  - It's THERE country  Taeger   Feb-15-04 12:58 AM   #72 
  - Gang colors are banned in US schools  Serenity-NOW   Feb-15-04 03:27 AM   #77 
  - Hear hear!!  Enjolras   Feb-15-04 03:57 AM   #80 
  - You're totally wrong.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:24 AM   #105 
  - When did you stop beating your wife?  0rganism   Feb-15-04 05:07 AM   #83 
  - Greetings from Europe  eurolefty   Feb-15-04 05:47 AM   #85 
  - Welcome to DU  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 05:57 AM   #86 
  - The French hold their secularism very dear  Isere   Feb-15-04 07:37 AM   #91 
  - It comes down to this  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 07:38 AM   #92 
  - No it doesn't  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 07:51 AM   #94 
  - Not apples and oranges  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 08:00 AM   #96 
  - Free?  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:07 AM   #99 
  - The only thing that can be limited is the SPECIFIC thing that  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:34 AM   #110 
  - Freedom FROM religion is also a right!  LeahMira   Feb-15-04 08:04 AM   #97 
  - Where do you get that idea?  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-15-04 08:10 AM   #101 
  - It IS right- for THEM. And you can't tell them otherwise.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:31 AM   #108 
  - Totally agreed.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:28 AM   #106 
     - O.K one ad hominem deserves another  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:39 AM   #112 
        - What? No one's rights are being put "over" the state's  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:42 AM   #114 
           - Wrong again  Spentastic   Feb-15-04 08:45 AM   #116 
              - How can you have a greater good without your freedom?  BullGooseLoony   Feb-15-04 08:53 AM   #117 
  - Locking  Moderator   Feb-15-04 08:54 AM   #118 
 

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