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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 07:09 PM
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8. my take
Stalin took over. Lenin as he was declining physically, apparently recommended to the Bolsheviks that Stalin be held at bay. Lenin had a certain acceptance of the war(s)to implement the revolution and seemed to understand that Stalin would use some of the most brutal aspects of that to accumulate a typically Russian personal power, which Stalin did, ruthlessly. Lenin was notoriously opposed to a personal glorification, a la the czars, and saw in Stalin a future czar, albeit a communist czar.

So, my take, long story short, is that Lenin tried to establish a communist system in a nation reared on an absolute state with a single, paternal figure (the czar was seen as a father). Stalin took that communism to create a "Stalinist" state.
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  -any one knowledgeable about lenin? historian  Feb-12-04 06:50 PM   #0 
  - somewhat, what's your question?  pinto   Feb-12-04 06:52 PM   #1 
  - my question  historian   Feb-12-04 06:55 PM   #4 
     - my take  pinto   Feb-12-04 07:09 PM   #8 
  - Paging MSchreader...  jpgray   Feb-12-04 06:53 PM   #2 
  - Lenin was the smart one! Stalin the cute one, Trotsky the quiet one, and  ohiosmith   Feb-12-04 06:54 PM   #3 
  - Was Stalin the walrus?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Feb-12-04 06:56 PM   #5 
  - Nope but I saw him!  MuseRider   Feb-12-04 07:00 PM   #6 
  - Yep  LostInTheMaise   Feb-12-04 07:03 PM   #7 
  - I'm looking for a Lenin quote that  Eloriel   Feb-12-04 07:15 PM   #9 
  - Here's an archival source with Lenin's works...  solinvictus   Feb-12-04 07:34 PM   #10 
  - thank you!!!  historian   Feb-12-04 08:17 PM   #11 
  - sure, what do you need to know?  buycitgo   Feb-12-04 08:31 PM   #12 
  - it even gets Tierra del Fuego  buycitgo   Feb-12-04 08:32 PM   #13 
  - "Lenin's Last Struggle" by Moshe Levin  ajacobson   Feb-12-04 08:43 PM   #14 

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