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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:51 AM
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50. Yes, Jesus had a way of getting to what was important
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 01:55 AM by Woodstock
and not bothering with the rest.

I had my worst freeper nightmare actually tell me that he can't understand the new testament, it doesn't make sense to him, so that is why the church is necessary to interpret Jesus for the people (like him, they would not be able to understand him without Paul and the Pope and the minister and all those other guys running interference.) Stunning, because the words of Jesus have rung crystal clear to me since I was a child - and I can tell from your words, you feel the same way.

The worst possible thing I can imagine is to pervert his teachings, yet I see Bush and Ashcroft and the religious right do it every day. Calling themselves Christian has about the same credibility as Bush calling giving our trees away for votes a "healthy forest initiative." Hypocrites, all. (Jesus could spot them a mile away, too.)

Back to the original question of the thread - I don't mind if someone doesn't believe and says so, but if something is special to someone, there's no need to go out of one's way to be disrespectful.
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  -Question for the Christians on this board starroute  Jul-31-03 06:46 PM   #0 
  - kick  Wonk   Jul-31-03 07:04 PM   #1 
  - Excellent points!  robbedvoter   Jul-31-03 07:07 PM   #2 
  - tolerance  TheReligiousLeft   Jul-31-03 07:12 PM   #3 
  - What if you firmly believe  drdigi420   Jul-31-03 07:27 PM   #5 
     - That is innacurate  knight_of_the_star   Jul-31-03 08:14 PM   #16 
     - I would welcome any proof  drdigi420   Jul-31-03 09:19 PM   #29 
     - I'm not talking about proving my religion  knight_of_the_star   Aug-01-03 01:38 AM   #46 
     - actually, i think we should keep in mind that  shugah   Jul-31-03 11:23 PM   #41 
     - i dont know about that  LS_Webmaster   Aug-01-03 10:26 AM   #59 
     - "science is the mythology of a secular age"  leftofthedial   Aug-01-03 05:29 PM   #69 
     - Why is religion to thank for things like honour and compassion  leesa   Aug-01-03 11:27 AM   #67 
     - Santa skipped your house again this year, Dr?  blondeatlast   Jul-31-03 09:45 PM   #33 
     - see post #40 nt  Dob Bole   Jul-31-03 11:32 PM   #43 
     - Then you are misinformed  sangha   Aug-01-03 10:28 AM   #61 
     - Firm belief  Muddleoftheroad   Aug-01-03 10:38 AM   #64 
  - yes, the fundies are basically medeival  maggrwaggr   Jul-31-03 07:25 PM   #4 
  - Yes, I do  jafap   Jul-31-03 08:28 PM   #22 
  - I am a Christian, but definately NOT a fundie...  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 07:29 PM   #6 
  - Excellent post. I cannot speak for others, but I find your views honest  karlschneider   Jul-31-03 07:45 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for the compliment...  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 09:16 PM   #27 
  - zing  incontrovertible   Jul-31-03 11:46 PM   #44 
  - Pretty good post...  TheBigGuy   Jul-31-03 08:24 PM   #21 
  - Thank you...  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 09:17 PM   #28 
  - Beautifully said. I had started a reply when my ISP crashed  blondeatlast   Jul-31-03 09:40 PM   #32 
  - Thank you...  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 10:01 PM   #36 
  - Yes, Jesus had a way of getting to what was important  Woodstock   Aug-01-03 01:51 AM   #50 
  - One of the great misfortunes of Christianity is...  rasputin1952   Aug-01-03 07:31 AM   #52 
  - 'we get angry because we didn't get our way"  sangha   Aug-01-03 10:15 AM   #55 
     - I see your point...  rasputin1952   Aug-01-03 05:23 PM   #68 
  - I try not to get offended when someone calls my beliefs "fairy tales",  Aristus   Jul-31-03 07:30 PM   #7 
  - I agree...  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 09:22 PM   #30 
     - agree with you there  Woodstock   Aug-01-03 01:57 AM   #51 
  - I think on DU...  LoZoccolo   Jul-31-03 07:40 PM   #8 
  - Eh?  JustJoe   Jul-31-03 07:49 PM   #10 
     - When you sign up you see this...  LoZoccolo   Jul-31-03 07:57 PM   #12 
     - I'm not surprised at the rule  JustJoe   Jul-31-03 08:17 PM   #18 
     - Yeah, Joe  5thGenDemocrat   Jul-31-03 09:55 PM   #35 
        - Catholic bashing is the last acceptable bigotry in these here US's  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-01-03 05:44 PM   #71 
           - Don't forget "fellow Dem bashing"  Dob Bole   Aug-01-03 05:47 PM   #72 
  - Reply  Dem2dend   Jul-31-03 07:56 PM   #11 
  - This philosophical social contract?  Yupster   Jul-31-03 08:06 PM   #13 
  - I also have a problem with that historical analysis  jafap   Jul-31-03 09:05 PM   #25 
  - You forget the Crusades...,  rasputin1952   Jul-31-03 09:33 PM   #31 
     - sdrawkcab  jafap   Aug-01-03 01:41 AM   #47 
  - Wars of religion and the philosophical reaction  starroute   Jul-31-03 10:59 PM   #38 
  - the thing that most comes to mind is  Cheswick   Jul-31-03 08:10 PM   #14 
  - Not a Christian but  Astarho   Jul-31-03 08:12 PM   #15 
  - I'd have to agree  knight_of_the_star   Jul-31-03 08:21 PM   #20 
  - I saw it more like  Astarho   Jul-31-03 08:35 PM   #23 
     - Exactly  knight_of_the_star   Aug-01-03 01:46 AM   #48 
  - Thank you; thoughtful people on all sides of the theism issue are  blondeatlast   Jul-31-03 11:24 PM   #42 
  - I don't think I accept your premice  jagguy   Jul-31-03 08:15 PM   #17 
  - response  Blue_Chill   Jul-31-03 08:18 PM   #19 
  - That is a historically inaccurate and unjustifiable contention  Character Assassin   Jul-31-03 08:46 PM   #24 
  - well said  Blue_Chill   Jul-31-03 10:57 PM   #37 
  - I would have just gone with our constitutional right to  alaine   Jul-31-03 11:09 PM   #39 
  - It would seem you and I have much to discuss......  Character Assassin   Aug-01-03 12:55 AM   #45 
     - 34.  alaine   Aug-01-03 01:48 AM   #49 
        - It was your term 'the cult of science' that got to me  Character Assassin   Aug-01-03 06:43 PM   #74 
  - History of Fundamentalism  maha   Aug-01-03 11:01 AM   #66 
  - answers  youngred   Jul-31-03 09:15 PM   #26 
  - Hard to believe  supernova   Jul-31-03 09:50 PM   #34 
  - Religious wars still continue...  Dob Bole   Jul-31-03 11:10 PM   #40 
  - religion, mythology and "fairy stories"  dymaxia   Aug-01-03 10:09 AM   #53 
  - Thank you, starroute  sangha   Aug-01-03 10:12 AM   #54 
  - Very well said, Sangha  Merlin   Aug-01-03 06:29 PM   #73 
  - Why don't you people go ask the fundies?  WhoCountsTheVotes   Aug-01-03 10:16 AM   #56 
  - I Think You May Have A Distorted View of History  outinforce   Aug-01-03 10:19 AM   #57 
  - religious people indeed  Judson39   Aug-01-03 10:29 AM   #62 
     - And You Have Come to This Conclusion of Yours  outinforce   Aug-01-03 10:36 AM   #63 
     - If you'd like to learn why you are wrong  sangha   Aug-01-03 10:44 AM   #65 
  - Why don't we just drop it.?  drdigi420   Aug-01-03 10:21 AM   #58 
  - Intellectually insulting?  Dob Bole   Aug-01-03 05:36 PM   #70 
  - One of the more amusing situations that arises in DU...  rasputin1952   Aug-01-03 07:52 PM   #76 
  - The faith isn't in the fairy tales(warning, long)...  noonwitch   Aug-01-03 10:27 AM   #60 
  - You need to appreciate the importance of religious beliefs to many.  Merlin   Aug-01-03 06:47 PM   #75 

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