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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 05:22 PM
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82. They're not for adults, either.
Children and adults are not the same. It is why we don't treat them the same in our society. They just don't have the same capacity for judgment that adults do. It does not excuse them from crimes they commit, but neither does mean we treat them as adults when they are not.

We don't make them work. We don't let them drink alcohol. We don't let them vote. We don't treat them as adults in nearly every other capacity in our society. We didn't decide those things for no good reason.

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  -Death penalty for juveniles: Should U.S. maintain or abolish this policy? prolesunited  Jan-27-04 08:47 AM   #0 
  - I am opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances at all times  noonwitch   Jan-27-04 08:52 AM   #1 
  - I`m with noonwitch  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-27-04 08:56 AM   #2 
  - Me too. n/t  chiburb   Jan-27-04 09:04 AM   #3 
     - It is the height of our assinine punitive approach  K-W   Jan-27-04 09:06 AM   #4 
        - No reason why  forgethell   Jan-27-04 12:39 PM   #12 
           - What do you mean?  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 12:50 PM   #13 
              - Sure  forgethell   Jan-28-04 09:28 AM   #67 
                 - They're not for adults, either.  Pithlet   Jan-28-04 05:22 PM   #82 
                    - No, they are not adults  forgethell   Jan-29-04 12:18 PM   #96 
                       - How do you tell the difference?  Pithlet   Jan-29-04 01:35 PM   #102 
  - Agreed 100%. No death penalty, period.  blondeatlast   Jan-28-04 07:28 AM   #53 
  - I am Personally Familiar with This Case...  SaidFred   Jan-28-04 10:41 AM   #73 
  - I understand  Mormegil42   Jan-28-04 06:57 PM   #92 
  - Hear, hear!  Sapphocrat   Jan-28-04 06:41 PM   #89 
  - I am against  laylah   Jan-29-04 04:24 PM   #105 
  - This is an issue that I am not very familiar with  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 10:50 AM   #5 
  - Wish I had more time today for this thread.  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 11:35 AM   #7 
     - Thanks for the info on the Tate case  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 11:59 AM   #9 
     - I literally broke down in tears when the sentence was announced.  blondeatlast   Jan-28-04 07:32 AM   #54 
     - Nothing to do with the Death Penalty.  TexasMexican   Jan-28-04 05:36 PM   #84 
  - yes, and no  iverglas   Jan-27-04 11:33 AM   #6 
  - I actually had a point  iverglas   Jan-27-04 01:28 PM   #19 
     - American justice  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 03:30 PM   #21 
        - Would you care to answer the actual question  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 04:03 PM   #22 
        - Depends on the case  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 04:05 PM   #23 
        - What does expediting appeals actually imply?  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 04:30 PM   #27 
        - It means  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 04:56 PM   #30 
           - That doesn't really clear up the issue for me  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 05:50 PM   #35 
              - The current appeals process is scattershot  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 06:40 PM   #36 
                 - I hope the defendant still gets a lawyer in your system  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 07:06 PM   #39 
                    - Gets more than that  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 07:18 PM   #41 
                       - Thanks for clarifying (n/t)  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 07:44 PM   #44 
        - What purpose does it serve for the state  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 05:48 PM   #34 
        - Maybe the Muddle  Karenina   Jan-27-04 04:26 PM   #26 
           - I KNOW who receives it  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 04:56 PM   #31 
        - well hot damn  iverglas   Jan-27-04 05:25 PM   #32 
           - America is a different culture  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-27-04 06:59 PM   #38 
              - keep on trying  iverglas   Jan-27-04 07:26 PM   #42 
                 - Excellent response!  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 07:38 PM   #43 
                 - Excellent post iverglas !  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-27-04 07:50 PM   #47 
                 - Conventions  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 06:36 AM   #51 
                    - I would concede part of the problem is  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 06:55 AM   #52 
                    - Innocents die either way  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 07:36 AM   #55 
                       - A question Muddle...  Solon   Jan-28-04 07:48 AM   #56 
                       - Innocents will die under either system  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 07:53 AM   #58 
                          - Systematic Killing and Random Killing...  Solon   Jan-28-04 08:03 AM   #59 
                          - Prisons  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 08:43 AM   #62 
                          - And what support do you have for this contention?  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 08:35 AM   #60 
                             - Deterrence  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 08:39 AM   #61 
                                - Whatever  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 08:50 AM   #63 
                                - About 1,000 reasons to be a Dem, none to be otherwise  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 09:22 AM   #65 
                                - Life w/o parole deters those who receive it.  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-28-04 09:09 AM   #64 
                                   - Prison records  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 09:23 AM   #66 
                                      - ?  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-28-04 09:47 AM   #68 
                                         - Prison safety is an issue  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-28-04 10:03 AM   #70 
                                            - We can discus prison "safety" in another thread.  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-28-04 10:07 AM   #71 
                                            - I was reading about the inquisition in the 1500's and this guy  Solomon   Jan-28-04 10:57 AM   #76 
                                               - I agree  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 04:31 PM   #81 
                                               - Exactly the opposite  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-29-04 12:47 PM   #97 
                       - risk  iverglas   Jan-28-04 11:13 AM   #80 
                    - "you think things are done better elsewhere"  iverglas   Jan-28-04 10:42 AM   #74 
                    - Hey Muddle. How ya doing?  Solomon   Jan-28-04 10:47 AM   #75 
                       - We barely use it  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-29-04 12:48 PM   #98 
                          - You're absolutely right!  prolesunited   Jan-29-04 12:56 PM   #101 
                             - One way or the other  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-29-04 04:39 PM   #106 
  - No, there has been enough killing  JellyBean1   Jan-27-04 11:43 AM   #8 
  - More hypocrisy from our government  Terwilliger   Jan-27-04 12:04 PM   #10 
  - How should the parents be made to suffer?  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 12:53 PM   #14 
  - life without parole? they cant make the decisions! why should they...  Terwilliger   Jan-27-04 12:56 PM   #15 
     - I'm not debating your points  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 01:14 PM   #16 
        - I don't know  Terwilliger   Jan-27-04 01:16 PM   #17 
           - Right on T!  Solomon   Jan-28-04 10:59 AM   #77 
  - Correction  pmbryant   Jan-27-04 01:18 PM   #18 
  - I'm opposed in all circumstances  youngred   Jan-27-04 12:32 PM   #11 
  - NO DEATH PENALTY......NO EXCEPTIONS!! n/t  newyawker99   Jan-27-04 02:47 PM   #20 
  - *Punches you in the nutsack for even having to ask* (nt)  Selwynn   Jan-27-04 04:15 PM   #24 
  - Are you talking to me?  prolesunited   Jan-27-04 05:35 PM   #33 
  - Absolutely not!  durutti   Jan-27-04 04:21 PM   #25 
  - I'm against the death penalty,  Devlzown   Jan-27-04 04:38 PM   #28 
  - Rehabilitation? Retribution?  mulethree   Jan-27-04 04:46 PM   #29 
  - One thing you didn't get right.  Solomon   Jan-28-04 11:02 AM   #78 
     - Boggle  mulethree   Jan-28-04 06:47 PM   #91 
  - I oppose the death penalty for anyone.  LeahMira   Jan-27-04 06:57 PM   #37 
  - Only have to ask one question to arrive at the answer  La Resistance   Jan-27-04 07:16 PM   #40 
  - NO DEATH PERIOD  LincolnMcGrath   Jan-27-04 07:44 PM   #45 
  - Maintain.  MrSlayer   Jan-27-04 07:46 PM   #46 
  - Did you realize that girl's mother  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 01:26 AM   #48 
  - This law should be abolished.  foreigncorrespondent   Jan-28-04 01:31 AM   #49 
  - Abolish the death penalty alltogether...  FDRrocks   Jan-28-04 01:41 AM   #50 
  - i oppose the death penalty  buddhamama   Jan-28-04 07:53 AM   #57 
  - Abolish the DP period,with our "Janklow" justice system its beyond unfair.  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-28-04 10:03 AM   #69 
  - Why stop at juveniles?  RainDog   Jan-28-04 10:11 AM   #72 
  - Where does the bible say  Mormegil42   Jan-28-04 07:12 PM   #93 
  - I also oppose the DP completely  slackmaster   Jan-28-04 11:08 AM   #79 
  - I think it depends on the Juvenile.  TexasMexican   Jan-28-04 05:27 PM   #83 
  - Yes  prolesunited   Jan-28-04 05:43 PM   #85 
     - ...  TexasMexican   Jan-28-04 06:19 PM   #87 
     - This:  Pithlet   Jan-28-04 06:27 PM   #88 
     - it's an amazement  iverglas   Jan-28-04 06:47 PM   #90 
        - well since you asked.  TexasMexican   Jan-28-04 07:14 PM   #94 
     - If I may  Mormegil42   Jan-28-04 07:28 PM   #95 
        - Yes  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-29-04 12:50 PM   #99 
           - Why don't we just do like that Escape from NY movie, only use an  Solomon   Jan-29-04 01:47 PM   #103 
              - Don't give him any more ideas  prolesunited   Jan-29-04 04:18 PM   #104 
                 - Nah, I like NY  Muddleoftheroad   Jan-29-04 04:46 PM   #107 
  - Abolish  kenzee13   Jan-28-04 05:44 PM   #86 
  - Good Lord NO! barbaric ABOLISH IT NOW!  ElsewheresDaughter   Jan-29-04 12:55 PM   #100 
 

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