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159. Wish people would make up their minds
On the one hand, I hear Clinton should stand up to Bush, on the other I hear he should get out of the way and let others lead the party (I subscribe to the latter view). He can't do both, people.
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  -It's interesting how much I dislike Clinton now skjpm  Jan-13-04 01:09 PM   #0 
  - I've been dissapointed as well..  KissMyAsscroft   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   #1 
  - Clinton gave us *  salinen   Jan-13-04 01:13 PM   #3 
  - how many more votes for gore  maxsolomon   Jan-13-04 01:16 PM   #10 
  - Yep....Clinton has really sank his boat!!!  goforit   Jan-14-04 10:17 PM   #127 
  - If Gore Stopped Listening to HIS Daughter's Strategy!  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:07 PM   #161 
  - ya know, i was skinned alive for making this exct post  bearfartinthewoods   Jan-14-04 02:32 PM   #44 
  - He's now bad because of Dean??  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:22 PM   #170 
  - You folks are sounding like the RWingnuts and Anthrax Coulter  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 03:20 PM   #65 
  - WHY did many Dems sit out 2000?  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 03:41 PM   #79 
  - It was those same "centrist" policies that got him elected in the first  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 06:06 PM   #102 
     - Until we face the facts that most of America is center-left we are doomed  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 06:27 PM   #105 
     - Well.. I must disagree.  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 09:39 AM   #154 
     - I disagree.  Nlighten1   Jan-15-04 05:54 AM   #143 
        - 100% Correct  sirjwtheblack   Jan-15-04 02:21 PM   #169 
  - KICK !!!  NicRic   Jan-15-04 06:59 AM   #145 
  - Yes - we've got our own "sheeple"  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:23 PM   #171 
  - And the jury's still out on which group that term applies to.  redqueen   Jan-15-04 02:37 PM   #177 
  - It wasn't his penis or what he did with it  alwynsw   Jan-18-04 03:42 PM   #200 
  - How many more votes for Gore if  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:12 PM   #88 
  - Kiss my Asscroft...  The Screaming Icon   Jan-13-04 01:18 PM   #12 
  - Legacy?! Hah, that's a laugh  MadHound   Jan-13-04 01:46 PM   #28 
  - Excellent post!  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:22 PM   #40 
  - Bravo!  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 02:26 PM   #42 
  - Terrific post, MH -- you nailed it!  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:34 PM   #45 
  - If you're right about the VRWC / ML-Impeachment circus...  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:46 PM   #52 
     - yeah, isn't that amazing!  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:52 PM   #56 
        - Yes, certainly  redqueen   Jan-14-04 03:54 PM   #81 
  - I don't even know why I bothered posting. Should have just read further &  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 03:20 PM   #66 
  - Nooooo, don't say ditto!!!  MadHound   Jan-14-04 03:30 PM   #72 
     - :)  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 09:44 AM   #157 
  - Well said  CWebster   Jan-14-04 03:24 PM   #68 
  - The Clinton legacy  ArkDem   Jan-14-04 04:13 PM   #90 
  - no Dem pres since the 19th century suffered such electoral disintegration  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:25 PM   #95 
  - We'll lose even more seats/ofices if Dean gets in....  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:29 PM   #174 
  - So you could now own multiple radio stations.....  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-15-04 08:21 AM   #148 
  - You're right, the '96 Telecom Act didn't restrict Dem monopolies.  MadHound   Jan-15-04 08:42 AM   #150 
  - Great Post  minkyboodle   Jan-15-04 08:53 AM   #151 
  - C-  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:11 PM   #164 
  - C+ at Best.  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:10 PM   #163 
  - This party has really split apart... What's happened to it? The outsiders  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:27 PM   #173 
     - So I'm now an "outsider"?  lastliberalintexas   Jan-15-04 03:15 PM   #184 
        - Interesting  redqueen   Jan-15-04 04:38 PM   #186 
        - Naw, you're not the outsider  Tinoire   Jan-16-04 11:32 PM   #190 
  - No. He is being as complacent and timid as many other Democrats  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:13 AM   #141 
  - By 1994...  formernaderite   Jan-15-04 08:38 AM   #149 
     - Tom Daschle has done what Hillary Clinton has done.  Cascadian   Jan-16-04 10:49 PM   #188 
  - Agree 100% (nt)  brainshrub   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   # 
  - Clinton never said he didn't like Dean!  Melodybe   Jan-13-04 01:32 PM   #23 
  - Agree 100% (nt)  brainshrub   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   #2 
  - Oh. come on...  The Screaming Icon   Jan-13-04 01:14 PM   #4 
  - Weeeeee lets bash Clinton  trumad   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #9 
  - Yep,Rush and the RW media aren't enough...now on DU eom..  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:23 PM   #67 
  - If he is so defensible, why don't you make your point.  INTELBYTES   Jan-14-04 07:15 PM   #112 
     - What? You have got to be kidding about this...  ariellyn   Jan-14-04 09:16 PM   #122 
  - agree  Claire_beth   Jan-13-04 01:17 PM   #11 
  - well  Claire_beth   Jan-13-04 01:14 PM   #5 
  - yes  BayCityProgressive   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #6 
  - Exactly  Lindacooks   Jan-14-04 02:04 PM   #34 
  - I'm starting to feel that way too.  Demobrat   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #7 
  - Uh huh  liberalnproud   Jan-14-04 02:14 PM   #37 
  - well....  Dookus   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #8 
  - Did I say he was an evil Nazi?  skjpm   Jan-13-04 01:23 PM   #19 
  - You responded to me, but I never said anything about nazis.  Dookus   Jan-13-04 01:45 PM   #27 
  - "It's an old tradition, and probably a good one."  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:50 PM   #54 
  - Great point  sirjwtheblack   Jan-15-04 02:26 PM   #172 
  - Clinton doesn't have a candidate...  RememberTheCoup   Jan-13-04 01:18 PM   #13 
  - I think he does . . .  TeeYiYi   Jan-13-04 01:27 PM   #22 
  - your former idealized view was probably a mistake  Cocoa   Jan-13-04 01:19 PM   #14 
  - I'm in a similiar situation  TheBlob   Jan-13-04 01:19 PM   #15 
  - I totally disagree, and I am disappointed you feel this way  Military Brat   Jan-13-04 01:20 PM   #16 
  - And *I'm* disappointed that you don't remember the cuts he made!  Kanary   Jan-13-04 01:23 PM   #20 
  - I am going to play devils advocate.  Tim4319   Jan-13-04 01:22 PM   #17 
  - Hi Tim4319!!  newyawker99   Jan-14-04 01:56 PM   #32 
  - Clinton pushed through cuts that hurt poor people  Kanary   Jan-13-04 01:22 PM   #18 
  - He benefits still from the demonization of politics  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:38 PM   #47 
  - And that's why votes are lost  Kanary   Jan-14-04 03:14 PM   #62 
     - Indeed they are  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:00 PM   #82 
  - Clinton helped police departments across the country  lyonn   Jan-14-04 03:32 PM   #73 
  - He also helped incarcerate 1 million more people during his terms!  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 01:42 PM   #160 
  - Ummm, how does that help the poor who were cut off??  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:16 PM   #166 
  - this was one of my BIG beefs with him when  gate of the sun   Jan-14-04 09:59 PM   #125 
  - Thanks for seeing the other side of the issue!  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:14 PM   #165 
  - He did indeed.. and much more  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 02:20 PM   #168 
  - Newsflash: Clinton's not running against W.  displacedtexan   Jan-13-04 01:26 PM   #21 
  - he`s not???  rchsod   Jan-13-04 01:43 PM   #26 
  - Me too...  mad_as_hell   Jan-13-04 01:33 PM   #24 
  - oh no  rchsod   Jan-13-04 01:41 PM   #25 
  - Why do you assume he is "Head of Democratic Party"?  Bandit   Jan-13-04 01:50 PM   #29 
  - So what...  MATTMAN   Jan-13-04 01:54 PM   #30 
  - Hence the Clinton-bashing post  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:16 PM   #91 
     - Nope.  MATTMAN   Jan-14-04 07:49 PM   #117 
  - By the time Clinton left office, I had become convinced . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-13-04 05:45 PM   #31 
  - Had Clinton not won, your Dynasty  leetrisck   Jan-14-04 02:05 PM   #35 
  - Had Clinton not won . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:01 PM   #108 
  - or at least stepped down after impeachment so we'd be working  bearfartinthewoods   Jan-14-04 02:39 PM   #48 
  - Excellent point . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:02 PM   #109 
  - You honestly think Gore would have been elected in 2000  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:43 AM   #155 
  - oh come on  ButterflyBlood   Jan-14-04 03:13 PM   #61 
  - Kidding RIGHT?!?!,we'd now be on the 23th year of Republican rule...  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:18 PM   #64 
     - Not necessarily  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 03:36 PM   #76 
  - DOMA left me disenfranchized in 1996. Voted *ugh* Libertarian  Hep   Jan-14-04 01:58 PM   #33 
  - IT's Interesting How Little Difference It Makes  Demeter   Jan-14-04 02:14 PM   #36 
  - Here is some raw data for you  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 03:14 PM   #183 
  - I save my dislike for Republicans,  Catfish   Jan-14-04 02:18 PM   #38 
  - Very, VERY well said, Catfish....  Ferretherder   Jan-14-04 08:10 PM   #119 
  - All right, Catfish! Democrats lack the discipline to stick together...  rezmutt   Jan-14-04 09:33 PM   #124 
  - You're so right.  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:19 PM   #167 
  - "the true damage comes from Republicans"  Mairead   Jan-14-04 11:02 PM   #129 
  - Amen!  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 03:22 PM   #185 
  - You can say that, since he and his policies didn't hurt you personally.  Kanary   Jan-14-04 11:12 PM   #131 
  - Clinton is giving advice  Sophree   Jan-14-04 02:19 PM   #39 
  - He scammed us into thinking he was for the little guy.  jonnyblitz   Jan-14-04 02:26 PM   #41 
  - In retrospect...  YNGW   Jan-14-04 02:28 PM   #43 
  - Um, and what did he do  Catfish   Jan-14-04 02:40 PM   #49 
  - I'm just saying...  YNGW   Jan-14-04 03:03 PM   #57 
     - We just look at the same events differently.  Catfish   Jan-14-04 03:09 PM   #60 
  - Gore didn't lose because Clinton was impeached  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:17 PM   #92 
     - I didn't say that.  YNGW   Jan-14-04 04:46 PM   #97 
  - NAFTA was a fraud. So were the Iraq games.  JanMichael   Jan-14-04 02:34 PM   #46 
  - "But I still love him like a lemming should."  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:44 PM   #50 
     - *THAT's* the problem... I flunked Lemming 101  Kanary   Jan-14-04 03:45 PM   #80 
  - I never liked Clinton even though I voted for him  bandera   Jan-14-04 02:45 PM   #51 
  - Say what you will...Clinton made Dems the fiscally responsible party  rumguy   Jan-14-04 02:48 PM   #53 
  - Yep, I think he's a shyster.  Toot   Jan-14-04 02:52 PM   #55 
  - Gee,ya think 24/7 media whoring could play a part?  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:32 PM   #74 
  - Too bad Clinton didn't make good on his campaign promise  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:02 PM   #83 
  - Precisely.  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:30 PM   #193 
  - Bye Willy!  demodewd   Jan-14-04 03:06 PM   #58 
  - Clinton brought the Democrats into the 21st century  Loonman   Jan-14-04 03:08 PM   #59 
  - Hmm - should this read how much I hate the Democratic party?  SahaleArm   Jan-14-04 03:28 PM   #71 
  - These past 18 months my disappointmen in Clinton has grown by leaps/bounds  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 03:16 PM   #63 
  - 2-party sys + demonization + gerrymandering = screw what the people need!  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:08 PM   #86 
  - You're just looking for an excuse  Chris   Jan-14-04 03:25 PM   #69 
  - Why should Clinton back the Dems after they stabbed him in the back?  Loonman   Jan-14-04 03:26 PM   #70 
  - How did the Dems stab him in the back? He made his bed, and laid in it.  Toot   Jan-14-04 03:35 PM   #75 
  - Stabbed him in the back? You have got to be kidding me . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:12 PM   #110 
     - The 1993 Budget Bill was influenced by Hillary  GemMom   Jan-15-04 02:33 PM   #175 
     - Your numbers may be correct, but the context is completely wrong.  NavajoRug   Jan-15-04 06:58 PM   #187 
        - As far as the Health care ideas,  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:40 PM   #196 
     - You are absolutely right  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:38 PM   #195 
  - Past Presidents should be careful with their criticisms of  gsc2749   Jan-14-04 03:39 PM   #77 
  - Dean is capable  lyonn   Jan-14-04 03:39 PM   #78 
  - Your Post Contains This Clue  outinforce   Jan-14-04 04:06 PM   #84 
  - As tradition goes,  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 04:09 PM   #87 
     - I Didn't Know That  outinforce   Jan-14-04 04:50 PM   #98 
  - WOW for a second there i thought i was on another website that rhymes with  SideshowScott   Jan-14-04 04:06 PM   #85 
  - Somewhat encouraging.  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:12 PM   #89 
  - Clinton hand-picked Clark because he knows he can maintain control through  markburgess   Jan-14-04 04:18 PM   #93 
  - Listen to Hannity much? It sounds like you subscribe to his view.  neverforget   Jan-14-04 04:24 PM   #94 
  - so you mean other Democrats don't suspect this too?  markburgess   Jan-14-04 04:29 PM   #96 
     - without evidence of said "loyalty only to the Clintons", then it's nothing  neverforget   Jan-14-04 06:33 PM   #106 
        - Clark has never been loyal to Democrats as is well known  markburgess   Jan-14-04 06:49 PM   #107 
           - My take is that either Clark or Kerry  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:44 PM   #197 
  - 70 - 80,000 draftClark members (of which I am one) chose Clark n/t  democratreformed   Jan-14-04 07:51 PM   #118 
  - I hear ya... but for a different reason.  HypnoToad   Jan-14-04 05:28 PM   #99 
  - HT, you pretty much covered  Jen6   Jan-15-04 02:20 AM   #142 
  - Thank you. Well said. n/t  Tinoire   Jan-16-04 11:37 PM   #191 
  - As I like to tell my Freeper friends...  liberalpress   Jan-14-04 05:51 PM   #100 
  - I've been over Clinton since welfare "reform".  ulysses   Jan-14-04 05:58 PM   #101 
  - Bush is the Target..... we should be thinking of how to remove the Weed  opihimoimoi   Jan-14-04 06:20 PM   #103 
  - hey, opi!  ulysses   Jan-14-04 06:25 PM   #104 
  - I think you are right we need to rember  corporatewhore   Jan-15-04 01:59 AM   #138 
  - Ummm, so it's passe' to be concerned about those cut off from any support?  Kanary   Jan-15-04 12:53 AM   #134 
  - When was that cutoff?  redqueen   Jan-15-04 02:37 PM   #176 
     - that would be 2001, yes  ulysses   Jan-15-04 02:41 PM   #178 
        - My pleasure  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:04 PM   #180 
  - Hope you'll be able to stomach his address at the 2004 convention.  oasis   Jan-14-04 07:13 PM   #111 
  - In Spite of Everything, There is One Word in Clinton's Defense  Crisco   Jan-14-04 07:23 PM   #113 
  - Clinton is what he is -- a political animal. To make him otherwise......  Cappadonna   Jan-14-04 07:24 PM   #114 
  - I filmed an iraqi woman  corporatewhore   Jan-14-04 07:27 PM   #115 
  - 1999... It's just been one long 13 yr war against Iraq  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 11:10 PM   #130 
  - Bill's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, may the Teflon go on  Turkw   Jan-14-04 07:32 PM   #116 
  - What I REALLY love is...  Ferretherder   Jan-14-04 08:29 PM   #120 
  - They win when we succumb to the media's continual assault on Clinton  ariellyn   Jan-14-04 08:49 PM   #121 
  - Thanks for setting up this thread to bash our last duly elected POTUS!  cat_girl25   Jan-14-04 09:18 PM   #123 
  - I came to support Big Dog/  opihimoimoi   Jan-14-04 10:12 PM   #126 
     - Shoots Opi, any friend of the Big Dog is a friend of mine.  oasis   Jan-15-04 01:40 AM   #136 
        - Do me a favor  Kanary   Jan-15-04 01:55 AM   #137 
  - Hey guys, can we live in the future....please?  RandomKoolzip   Jan-14-04 10:27 PM   #128 
  - Thank you  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:45 AM   #158 
     - Sorry, but what's the old saying?  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:10 PM   #181 
  - As clinton said I feel your pain  corporatewhore   Jan-14-04 11:25 PM   #132 
  - Why is hating Clinton interesting?  Bridget Burke   Jan-14-04 11:30 PM   #133 
  - Oh my God this thread is horrible.  elsiesummers   Jan-15-04 01:25 AM   #135 
  - You must admit Clinton should be more forthright and stand up to Bush.  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:09 AM   #140 
  - Wish people would make up their minds  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:49 AM   #159 
  - That's what I was thinking  Catfish   Jan-15-04 09:21 AM   #152 
  - Nonesense. This has been a common sentiment from way BEFORE  Tinoire   Jan-15-04 09:43 AM   #156 
  - Clinton was not the best president  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:05 AM   #139 
  - Interesting how much I miss Clinton now !  NicRic   Jan-15-04 06:55 AM   #144 
  - Me, too!  noonwitch   Jan-15-04 07:36 AM   #146 
  - yes  fernandovaz   Jan-15-04 07:39 AM   #147 
  - Would you please ask the poor how great he was?  Kanary   Jan-15-04 09:32 AM   #153 
  - Thanks For Volunteering for My IGNORE List!  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:08 PM   #162 
  - Too much handwringing from those who don't want to hear this  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:00 PM   #179 
  - What's Dean and the rest of the (noms)gang going to do?  Loonman   Jan-15-04 03:12 PM   #182 
  - NAFTA was a huge mistake  Ksec   Jan-16-04 10:56 PM   #189 
  - You oppose NAFTA?  Bridget Burke   Jan-18-04 02:35 PM   #194 
  - Clinton? Who's Clinton?  Character Assassin   Jan-16-04 11:50 PM   #192 
  - Yeah...Clinton was really a bad man....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jan-18-04 02:47 PM   #198 
  - Bill Clinton is the first/last moderate republican I will ever vote for  mitchum   Jan-18-04 02:52 PM   #199 
  - doh!  Penible   Jan-18-04 04:14 PM   #201 
 

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