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39. Clinton is giving advice
to all the candidates, in a very fair and even-handed manner. Even Dean.

If his preference is indeed Clark, we might want to take notice, since the advice would be from the most masterful politician of our time. Same thing goes, if he is indeed leaning away from Dean.
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  -It's interesting how much I dislike Clinton now skjpm  Jan-13-04 01:09 PM   #0 
  - I've been dissapointed as well..  KissMyAsscroft   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   #1 
  - Clinton gave us *  salinen   Jan-13-04 01:13 PM   #3 
  - how many more votes for gore  maxsolomon   Jan-13-04 01:16 PM   #10 
  - Yep....Clinton has really sank his boat!!!  goforit   Jan-14-04 10:17 PM   #127 
  - If Gore Stopped Listening to HIS Daughter's Strategy!  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:07 PM   #161 
  - ya know, i was skinned alive for making this exct post  bearfartinthewoods   Jan-14-04 02:32 PM   #44 
  - He's now bad because of Dean??  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:22 PM   #170 
  - You folks are sounding like the RWingnuts and Anthrax Coulter  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 03:20 PM   #65 
  - WHY did many Dems sit out 2000?  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 03:41 PM   #79 
  - It was those same "centrist" policies that got him elected in the first  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 06:06 PM   #102 
     - Until we face the facts that most of America is center-left we are doomed  loudnclear   Jan-14-04 06:27 PM   #105 
     - Well.. I must disagree.  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 09:39 AM   #154 
     - I disagree.  Nlighten1   Jan-15-04 05:54 AM   #143 
        - 100% Correct  sirjwtheblack   Jan-15-04 02:21 PM   #169 
  - KICK !!!  NicRic   Jan-15-04 06:59 AM   #145 
  - Yes - we've got our own "sheeple"  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:23 PM   #171 
  - And the jury's still out on which group that term applies to.  redqueen   Jan-15-04 02:37 PM   #177 
  - It wasn't his penis or what he did with it  alwynsw   Jan-18-04 03:42 PM   #200 
  - How many more votes for Gore if  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:12 PM   #88 
  - Kiss my Asscroft...  The Screaming Icon   Jan-13-04 01:18 PM   #12 
  - Legacy?! Hah, that's a laugh  MadHound   Jan-13-04 01:46 PM   #28 
  - Excellent post!  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:22 PM   #40 
  - Bravo!  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 02:26 PM   #42 
  - Terrific post, MH -- you nailed it!  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:34 PM   #45 
  - If you're right about the VRWC / ML-Impeachment circus...  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:46 PM   #52 
     - yeah, isn't that amazing!  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:52 PM   #56 
        - Yes, certainly  redqueen   Jan-14-04 03:54 PM   #81 
  - I don't even know why I bothered posting. Should have just read further &  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 03:20 PM   #66 
  - Nooooo, don't say ditto!!!  MadHound   Jan-14-04 03:30 PM   #72 
     - :)  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 09:44 AM   #157 
  - Well said  CWebster   Jan-14-04 03:24 PM   #68 
  - The Clinton legacy  ArkDem   Jan-14-04 04:13 PM   #90 
  - no Dem pres since the 19th century suffered such electoral disintegration  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:25 PM   #95 
  - We'll lose even more seats/ofices if Dean gets in....  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:29 PM   #174 
  - So you could now own multiple radio stations.....  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-15-04 08:21 AM   #148 
  - You're right, the '96 Telecom Act didn't restrict Dem monopolies.  MadHound   Jan-15-04 08:42 AM   #150 
  - Great Post  minkyboodle   Jan-15-04 08:53 AM   #151 
  - C-  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:11 PM   #164 
  - C+ at Best.  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:10 PM   #163 
  - This party has really split apart... What's happened to it? The outsiders  gore-is-my-president   Jan-15-04 02:27 PM   #173 
     - So I'm now an "outsider"?  lastliberalintexas   Jan-15-04 03:15 PM   #184 
        - Interesting  redqueen   Jan-15-04 04:38 PM   #186 
        - Naw, you're not the outsider  Tinoire   Jan-16-04 11:32 PM   #190 
  - No. He is being as complacent and timid as many other Democrats  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:13 AM   #141 
  - By 1994...  formernaderite   Jan-15-04 08:38 AM   #149 
     - Tom Daschle has done what Hillary Clinton has done.  Cascadian   Jan-16-04 10:49 PM   #188 
  - Agree 100% (nt)  brainshrub   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   # 
  - Clinton never said he didn't like Dean!  Melodybe   Jan-13-04 01:32 PM   #23 
  - Agree 100% (nt)  brainshrub   Jan-13-04 01:12 PM   #2 
  - Oh. come on...  The Screaming Icon   Jan-13-04 01:14 PM   #4 
  - Weeeeee lets bash Clinton  trumad   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #9 
  - Yep,Rush and the RW media aren't enough...now on DU eom..  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:23 PM   #67 
  - If he is so defensible, why don't you make your point.  INTELBYTES   Jan-14-04 07:15 PM   #112 
     - What? You have got to be kidding about this...  ariellyn   Jan-14-04 09:16 PM   #122 
  - agree  Claire_beth   Jan-13-04 01:17 PM   #11 
  - well  Claire_beth   Jan-13-04 01:14 PM   #5 
  - yes  BayCityProgressive   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #6 
  - Exactly  Lindacooks   Jan-14-04 02:04 PM   #34 
  - I'm starting to feel that way too.  Demobrat   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #7 
  - Uh huh  liberalnproud   Jan-14-04 02:14 PM   #37 
  - well....  Dookus   Jan-13-04 01:15 PM   #8 
  - Did I say he was an evil Nazi?  skjpm   Jan-13-04 01:23 PM   #19 
  - You responded to me, but I never said anything about nazis.  Dookus   Jan-13-04 01:45 PM   #27 
  - "It's an old tradition, and probably a good one."  Mairead   Jan-14-04 02:50 PM   #54 
  - Great point  sirjwtheblack   Jan-15-04 02:26 PM   #172 
  - Clinton doesn't have a candidate...  RememberTheCoup   Jan-13-04 01:18 PM   #13 
  - I think he does . . .  TeeYiYi   Jan-13-04 01:27 PM   #22 
  - your former idealized view was probably a mistake  Cocoa   Jan-13-04 01:19 PM   #14 
  - I'm in a similiar situation  TheBlob   Jan-13-04 01:19 PM   #15 
  - I totally disagree, and I am disappointed you feel this way  Military Brat   Jan-13-04 01:20 PM   #16 
  - And *I'm* disappointed that you don't remember the cuts he made!  Kanary   Jan-13-04 01:23 PM   #20 
  - I am going to play devils advocate.  Tim4319   Jan-13-04 01:22 PM   #17 
  - Hi Tim4319!!  newyawker99   Jan-14-04 01:56 PM   #32 
  - Clinton pushed through cuts that hurt poor people  Kanary   Jan-13-04 01:22 PM   #18 
  - He benefits still from the demonization of politics  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:38 PM   #47 
  - And that's why votes are lost  Kanary   Jan-14-04 03:14 PM   #62 
     - Indeed they are  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:00 PM   #82 
  - Clinton helped police departments across the country  lyonn   Jan-14-04 03:32 PM   #73 
  - He also helped incarcerate 1 million more people during his terms!  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 01:42 PM   #160 
  - Ummm, how does that help the poor who were cut off??  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:16 PM   #166 
  - this was one of my BIG beefs with him when  gate of the sun   Jan-14-04 09:59 PM   #125 
  - Thanks for seeing the other side of the issue!  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:14 PM   #165 
  - He did indeed.. and much more  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 02:20 PM   #168 
  - Newsflash: Clinton's not running against W.  displacedtexan   Jan-13-04 01:26 PM   #21 
  - he`s not???  rchsod   Jan-13-04 01:43 PM   #26 
  - Me too...  mad_as_hell   Jan-13-04 01:33 PM   #24 
  - oh no  rchsod   Jan-13-04 01:41 PM   #25 
  - Why do you assume he is "Head of Democratic Party"?  Bandit   Jan-13-04 01:50 PM   #29 
  - So what...  MATTMAN   Jan-13-04 01:54 PM   #30 
  - Hence the Clinton-bashing post  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:16 PM   #91 
     - Nope.  MATTMAN   Jan-14-04 07:49 PM   #117 
  - By the time Clinton left office, I had become convinced . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-13-04 05:45 PM   #31 
  - Had Clinton not won, your Dynasty  leetrisck   Jan-14-04 02:05 PM   #35 
  - Had Clinton not won . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:01 PM   #108 
  - or at least stepped down after impeachment so we'd be working  bearfartinthewoods   Jan-14-04 02:39 PM   #48 
  - Excellent point . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:02 PM   #109 
  - You honestly think Gore would have been elected in 2000  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:43 AM   #155 
  - oh come on  ButterflyBlood   Jan-14-04 03:13 PM   #61 
  - Kidding RIGHT?!?!,we'd now be on the 23th year of Republican rule...  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:18 PM   #64 
     - Not necessarily  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 03:36 PM   #76 
  - DOMA left me disenfranchized in 1996. Voted *ugh* Libertarian  Hep   Jan-14-04 01:58 PM   #33 
  - IT's Interesting How Little Difference It Makes  Demeter   Jan-14-04 02:14 PM   #36 
  - Here is some raw data for you  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 03:14 PM   #183 
  - I save my dislike for Republicans,  Catfish   Jan-14-04 02:18 PM   #38 
  - Very, VERY well said, Catfish....  Ferretherder   Jan-14-04 08:10 PM   #119 
  - All right, Catfish! Democrats lack the discipline to stick together...  rezmutt   Jan-14-04 09:33 PM   #124 
  - You're so right.  Kanary   Jan-15-04 02:19 PM   #167 
  - "the true damage comes from Republicans"  Mairead   Jan-14-04 11:02 PM   #129 
  - Amen!  CivilRightsNow   Jan-15-04 03:22 PM   #185 
  - You can say that, since he and his policies didn't hurt you personally.  Kanary   Jan-14-04 11:12 PM   #131 
  - Clinton is giving advice  Sophree   Jan-14-04 02:19 PM   #39 
  - He scammed us into thinking he was for the little guy.  jonnyblitz   Jan-14-04 02:26 PM   #41 
  - In retrospect...  YNGW   Jan-14-04 02:28 PM   #43 
  - Um, and what did he do  Catfish   Jan-14-04 02:40 PM   #49 
  - I'm just saying...  YNGW   Jan-14-04 03:03 PM   #57 
     - We just look at the same events differently.  Catfish   Jan-14-04 03:09 PM   #60 
  - Gore didn't lose because Clinton was impeached  beaconess   Jan-14-04 04:17 PM   #92 
     - I didn't say that.  YNGW   Jan-14-04 04:46 PM   #97 
  - NAFTA was a fraud. So were the Iraq games.  JanMichael   Jan-14-04 02:34 PM   #46 
  - "But I still love him like a lemming should."  redqueen   Jan-14-04 02:44 PM   #50 
     - *THAT's* the problem... I flunked Lemming 101  Kanary   Jan-14-04 03:45 PM   #80 
  - I never liked Clinton even though I voted for him  bandera   Jan-14-04 02:45 PM   #51 
  - Say what you will...Clinton made Dems the fiscally responsible party  rumguy   Jan-14-04 02:48 PM   #53 
  - Yep, I think he's a shyster.  Toot   Jan-14-04 02:52 PM   #55 
  - Gee,ya think 24/7 media whoring could play a part?  OneTwentyoFive   Jan-14-04 03:32 PM   #74 
  - Too bad Clinton didn't make good on his campaign promise  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:02 PM   #83 
  - Precisely.  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:30 PM   #193 
  - Bye Willy!  demodewd   Jan-14-04 03:06 PM   #58 
  - Clinton brought the Democrats into the 21st century  Loonman   Jan-14-04 03:08 PM   #59 
  - Hmm - should this read how much I hate the Democratic party?  SahaleArm   Jan-14-04 03:28 PM   #71 
  - These past 18 months my disappointmen in Clinton has grown by leaps/bounds  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 03:16 PM   #63 
  - 2-party sys + demonization + gerrymandering = screw what the people need!  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:08 PM   #86 
  - You're just looking for an excuse  Chris   Jan-14-04 03:25 PM   #69 
  - Why should Clinton back the Dems after they stabbed him in the back?  Loonman   Jan-14-04 03:26 PM   #70 
  - How did the Dems stab him in the back? He made his bed, and laid in it.  Toot   Jan-14-04 03:35 PM   #75 
  - Stabbed him in the back? You have got to be kidding me . . .  NavajoRug   Jan-14-04 07:12 PM   #110 
     - The 1993 Budget Bill was influenced by Hillary  GemMom   Jan-15-04 02:33 PM   #175 
     - Your numbers may be correct, but the context is completely wrong.  NavajoRug   Jan-15-04 06:58 PM   #187 
        - As far as the Health care ideas,  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:40 PM   #196 
     - You are absolutely right  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:38 PM   #195 
  - Past Presidents should be careful with their criticisms of  gsc2749   Jan-14-04 03:39 PM   #77 
  - Dean is capable  lyonn   Jan-14-04 03:39 PM   #78 
  - Your Post Contains This Clue  outinforce   Jan-14-04 04:06 PM   #84 
  - As tradition goes,  lastliberalintexas   Jan-14-04 04:09 PM   #87 
     - I Didn't Know That  outinforce   Jan-14-04 04:50 PM   #98 
  - WOW for a second there i thought i was on another website that rhymes with  SideshowScott   Jan-14-04 04:06 PM   #85 
  - Somewhat encouraging.  redqueen   Jan-14-04 04:12 PM   #89 
  - Clinton hand-picked Clark because he knows he can maintain control through  markburgess   Jan-14-04 04:18 PM   #93 
  - Listen to Hannity much? It sounds like you subscribe to his view.  neverforget   Jan-14-04 04:24 PM   #94 
  - so you mean other Democrats don't suspect this too?  markburgess   Jan-14-04 04:29 PM   #96 
     - without evidence of said "loyalty only to the Clintons", then it's nothing  neverforget   Jan-14-04 06:33 PM   #106 
        - Clark has never been loyal to Democrats as is well known  markburgess   Jan-14-04 06:49 PM   #107 
           - My take is that either Clark or Kerry  physaf   Jan-18-04 02:44 PM   #197 
  - 70 - 80,000 draftClark members (of which I am one) chose Clark n/t  democratreformed   Jan-14-04 07:51 PM   #118 
  - I hear ya... but for a different reason.  HypnoToad   Jan-14-04 05:28 PM   #99 
  - HT, you pretty much covered  Jen6   Jan-15-04 02:20 AM   #142 
  - Thank you. Well said. n/t  Tinoire   Jan-16-04 11:37 PM   #191 
  - As I like to tell my Freeper friends...  liberalpress   Jan-14-04 05:51 PM   #100 
  - I've been over Clinton since welfare "reform".  ulysses   Jan-14-04 05:58 PM   #101 
  - Bush is the Target..... we should be thinking of how to remove the Weed  opihimoimoi   Jan-14-04 06:20 PM   #103 
  - hey, opi!  ulysses   Jan-14-04 06:25 PM   #104 
  - I think you are right we need to rember  corporatewhore   Jan-15-04 01:59 AM   #138 
  - Ummm, so it's passe' to be concerned about those cut off from any support?  Kanary   Jan-15-04 12:53 AM   #134 
  - When was that cutoff?  redqueen   Jan-15-04 02:37 PM   #176 
     - that would be 2001, yes  ulysses   Jan-15-04 02:41 PM   #178 
        - My pleasure  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:04 PM   #180 
  - Hope you'll be able to stomach his address at the 2004 convention.  oasis   Jan-14-04 07:13 PM   #111 
  - In Spite of Everything, There is One Word in Clinton's Defense  Crisco   Jan-14-04 07:23 PM   #113 
  - Clinton is what he is -- a political animal. To make him otherwise......  Cappadonna   Jan-14-04 07:24 PM   #114 
  - I filmed an iraqi woman  corporatewhore   Jan-14-04 07:27 PM   #115 
  - 1999... It's just been one long 13 yr war against Iraq  Tinoire   Jan-14-04 11:10 PM   #130 
  - Bill's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't, may the Teflon go on  Turkw   Jan-14-04 07:32 PM   #116 
  - What I REALLY love is...  Ferretherder   Jan-14-04 08:29 PM   #120 
  - They win when we succumb to the media's continual assault on Clinton  ariellyn   Jan-14-04 08:49 PM   #121 
  - Thanks for setting up this thread to bash our last duly elected POTUS!  cat_girl25   Jan-14-04 09:18 PM   #123 
  - I came to support Big Dog/  opihimoimoi   Jan-14-04 10:12 PM   #126 
     - Shoots Opi, any friend of the Big Dog is a friend of mine.  oasis   Jan-15-04 01:40 AM   #136 
        - Do me a favor  Kanary   Jan-15-04 01:55 AM   #137 
  - Hey guys, can we live in the future....please?  RandomKoolzip   Jan-14-04 10:27 PM   #128 
  - Thank you  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:45 AM   #158 
     - Sorry, but what's the old saying?  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:10 PM   #181 
  - As clinton said I feel your pain  corporatewhore   Jan-14-04 11:25 PM   #132 
  - Why is hating Clinton interesting?  Bridget Burke   Jan-14-04 11:30 PM   #133 
  - Oh my God this thread is horrible.  elsiesummers   Jan-15-04 01:25 AM   #135 
  - You must admit Clinton should be more forthright and stand up to Bush.  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:09 AM   #140 
  - Wish people would make up their minds  shrike   Jan-15-04 09:49 AM   #159 
  - That's what I was thinking  Catfish   Jan-15-04 09:21 AM   #152 
  - Nonesense. This has been a common sentiment from way BEFORE  Tinoire   Jan-15-04 09:43 AM   #156 
  - Clinton was not the best president  Cascadian   Jan-15-04 02:05 AM   #139 
  - Interesting how much I miss Clinton now !  NicRic   Jan-15-04 06:55 AM   #144 
  - Me, too!  noonwitch   Jan-15-04 07:36 AM   #146 
  - yes  fernandovaz   Jan-15-04 07:39 AM   #147 
  - Would you please ask the poor how great he was?  Kanary   Jan-15-04 09:32 AM   #153 
  - Thanks For Volunteering for My IGNORE List!  GalleryGod   Jan-15-04 02:08 PM   #162 
  - Too much handwringing from those who don't want to hear this  redqueen   Jan-15-04 03:00 PM   #179 
  - What's Dean and the rest of the (noms)gang going to do?  Loonman   Jan-15-04 03:12 PM   #182 
  - NAFTA was a huge mistake  Ksec   Jan-16-04 10:56 PM   #189 
  - You oppose NAFTA?  Bridget Burke   Jan-18-04 02:35 PM   #194 
  - Clinton? Who's Clinton?  Character Assassin   Jan-16-04 11:50 PM   #192 
  - Yeah...Clinton was really a bad man....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jan-18-04 02:47 PM   #198 
  - Bill Clinton is the first/last moderate republican I will ever vote for  mitchum   Jan-18-04 02:52 PM   #199 
  - doh!  Penible   Jan-18-04 04:14 PM   #201 
 

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