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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 06:52 PM
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12. Here is the problem
The conservative sterotype that is forced down people's throats says that we are liberal, hippie, communist tree-huggers that would rather smoke a bowl than fight in a war (well, to be fair, I would).

I hate to say it, but we must attack. If the left had even half the organazied slander campaigns that the right uses, we would have no problem holding power.

The biggest problem with blue-collar males??

The tough guy, macho moron image is appealing to them. This is why Schwartenegger will run in California, and its why Bush, despite being a cocaine user, an alcoholic, and a complete idiot, is popular.

War, violence, and not thinking appeals to the blue collar white male (take my word for it).
The Republicans are offering all three.
The "trifecta", if you will...
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  -How can we get Blue Collar, White Males to reject the Cheap Labor Party?? ElementaryPenguin  Jul-29-03 06:20 PM   #0 
  - The threat to overtime pay makes a damn good starting  blondeatlast   Jul-29-03 06:26 PM   #1 
  - Right you are, blonde!! * gave us a gift with that one!!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 06:31 PM   #4 
  - if I understand this thing it won't impact many of them  jagguy   Jul-30-03 09:22 PM   #81 
  - Call it the "Cheap Labor Party"  Runesong   Jul-29-03 06:28 PM   #2 
  - It didn't happen in Oregon  sandnsea   Jul-29-03 06:35 PM   #5 
  - Good example, sandnsea! The kind Cheap Labor hates!!!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 06:48 PM   #10 
  - you did.  saline   Jul-29-03 06:41 PM   #6 
  - Explain that  drdigi420   Jul-29-03 07:02 PM   #17 
  - Blue collar white males tend to be God-fearing, gun-toting, military  whoYaCallinAlib   Jul-29-03 06:31 PM   #3 
  - Okay, so we say they can have their rifles - even praise their rifles  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 06:45 PM   #7 
  - Brilliant, EP! And I love the term "Cheap Labor Party/Conservatives" (n/t  w4rma   Jul-29-03 07:04 PM   #19 
     - Cheap Labor Party, Cheap Labor Party, Cheap Labor Party  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:15 PM   #24 
        - In, of all places, pro-union, anti-Cheap Labor NYC!  KamaAina   Jul-29-03 07:24 PM   #27 
  - um...  saline   Jul-29-03 06:46 PM   #8 
  - I'm not knocking blue collar men in general - just those supporting the  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 06:58 PM   #16 
  - Oh, they don't need money to live on? They don't care about  SharonAnn   Jul-29-03 08:31 PM   #37 
  - Don't talk about banning guns.  Clete   Jul-29-03 06:47 PM   #9 
  - You got that right!!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:17 PM   #25 
  - This is not a group that I know anything about.  Demobrat   Jul-29-03 06:51 PM   #11 
  - As near as I can tell...  saline   Jul-29-03 06:58 PM   #15 
  - However, even "real men" DO need healthcare - and they know it!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:03 PM   #18 
     - very true  saline   Jul-29-03 07:06 PM   #20 
     - And they need good wages to provide food and shelter and  SharonAnn   Jul-29-03 08:34 PM   #38 
     - Vote Democrat Cause Even REAL MEN Need Health Care  cryingshame   Jul-29-03 08:53 PM   #41 
  - They hate welfare simply because  drdigi420   Jul-29-03 07:08 PM   #21 
  - Oh.  Demobrat   Jul-29-03 07:46 PM   #33 
  - And in every area I'ved live in, whites outnumbered blacks  SharonAnn   Jul-29-03 08:35 PM   #39 
  - Still. We can't afford to give up on them as a group. We need  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:20 PM   #26 
  - Here is the problem  ComerPerro   Jul-29-03 06:52 PM   #12 
  - We must shove the ChickenHawk issue down their throats!!!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:09 PM   #22 
     - Exactly.....they want their heroes.  blm   Jul-29-03 08:02 PM   #36 
  - Raise The Minimum Wage!  Yavin4   Jul-29-03 06:54 PM   #13 
  - Beware of the Stereotyping  Yavin4   Jul-29-03 06:57 PM   #14 
  - I think the extreme chest thumpers make up a very small percentage...  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:12 PM   #23 
  - Union Member Speaking  Upfront   Jul-29-03 07:51 PM   #34 
     - Thank you Upfront  indigo32   Jul-29-03 09:03 PM   #42 
     - Thanks, UpFront. Don't give up on the Dems;  blondeatlast   Jul-30-03 05:16 PM   #57 
  - THANK YOU, from the wife of a well read, blue collar, war hating, hard  MrsGrumpy   Jul-29-03 10:19 PM   #48 
  - and some people wonder  OKNancy   Jul-30-03 06:07 PM   #63 
     - Read the BigGuy's posts and you'll get a real good idea  MrsGrumpy   Jul-30-03 06:50 PM   #73 
  - Thank you because I was getting pretty pissed  OKNancy   Jul-30-03 06:04 PM   #61 
  - Perhaps free beer?  ReadTomPaine   Jul-29-03 07:26 PM   #28 
  - Good suggestion!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-29-03 07:29 PM   #31 
  - Jobs and deficits. Stay away from gun control. Counter republican lies.  snippy   Jul-29-03 07:27 PM   #29 
  - by talking to them honestly, maybe?  ulysses   Jul-29-03 07:27 PM   #30 
  - Honesty, Fairness & Pride  sandnsea   Jul-29-03 08:47 PM   #40 
  - It's simple  chaska   Jul-29-03 07:29 PM   #32 
  - We need to remind them that CEO comp has gone up  Ilsa   Jul-29-03 07:54 PM   #35 
  - As someone who grew up in in area with these people...  Township75   Jul-29-03 09:05 PM   #43 
  - Talking down to them and calling them stupid  jiacinto   Jul-29-03 09:36 PM   #44 
  - You're absolutely correct!  JVS   Jul-29-03 09:42 PM   #45 
  - You got it...  MrsGrumpy   Jul-29-03 10:24 PM   #49 
  - White, blue collar males that vote Cheap Labor Party are UNINFORMED!!!  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-30-03 06:36 PM   #70 
  - Okay...trying to control my temper here...Too Late...  MrsGrumpy   Jul-29-03 10:07 PM   #46 
  - I agree  dymaxia   Jul-30-03 04:58 PM   #56 
  - Well, fancy pickup trucks....  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 05:49 PM   #60 
     - It seems people here are talking about  Iris   Jul-30-03 07:42 PM   #76 
  - ROFTL! what a joke.  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 05:45 PM   #58 
  - Expand your horizons, no one I know fits your Rush Limbaughian  MrsGrumpy   Jul-30-03 06:05 PM   #62 
     - I know what Im talking about  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 06:08 PM   #64 
        - Many times I have disagreed with your posts, but figured to each his own.  MrsGrumpy   Jul-30-03 06:14 PM   #66 
           - so are you generalizing from your Detroit experience.  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 06:28 PM   #68 
              - Nope lived in 6 different states and people are people every where  MrsGrumpy   Jul-30-03 06:46 PM   #72 
  - Speaking for myself, I was only knocking Cheap Labor Party supporters  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-30-03 06:10 PM   #65 
  - Remind them (and yourselves) that THIS party was built...  mitchum   Jul-29-03 10:17 PM   #47 
  - Honestly? Run promos showing brown people with their jobs.  aquart   Jul-29-03 10:26 PM   #50 
  - Get a candidate that respects them  Dob Bole   Jul-29-03 10:40 PM   #51 
  - Simple  Yentatelaventa   Jul-29-03 11:14 PM   #52 
  - Oh yeah . . . those ideas will work for sure.  whoYaCallinAlib   Jul-29-03 11:23 PM   #53 
  - Um, what is it I'm trying to say?  blondeatlast   Jul-30-03 09:10 AM   #55 
  - A little "class warfare"  jos   Jul-30-03 09:03 AM   #54 
  - homophoic , racist yahoos....let the GOP keep 'em.  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 05:47 PM   #59 
  - It might be worth the investment to try to enlighten people...  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-30-03 06:26 PM   #67 
     - you might as well be talking to a stove.  TheBigGuy   Jul-30-03 06:31 PM   #69 
        - So I'm an idealist! I've seen some individuals make some pretty  ElementaryPenguin   Jul-30-03 06:41 PM   #71 
  - Great analysis  scottxyz   Jul-30-03 07:16 PM   #74 
  - They realize it, it is just unfortunate for them and us both  MrsGrumpy   Jul-30-03 07:23 PM   #75 
  - a major factor  indigo32   Jul-30-03 08:17 PM   #77 
  - Normally I wouldn't post this because its source is generally offensive  JVS   Jul-30-03 09:12 PM   #78 
  - We need to quit insulting them  The Lone Liberal   Jul-30-03 09:17 PM   #79 
  - Democratic party is mainly the party of working poor, minorities  whoYaCallinAlib   Jul-30-03 09:18 PM   #80 
 

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