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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:57 PM
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18. The 99% includes many people who aren't Democrats or political at all.
The 99% includes many people who don't even vote.

We need to communicate with them, and the word CHANGE isn't enough.
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  -You're STILL. NOT. GETTING. IT, are you? TygrBright  Nov-30-11 05:41 PM   #0 
  - I get it. I just disagree.  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 05:45 PM   #1 
  - Republicans DO NOT want change.  Jackpine Radical   Dec-01-11 11:48 AM   #58 
  - Good one!!!! And so true.  DeeDeeNY   Dec-01-11 05:56 PM   #99 
  - Frederick Douglass  femrap   Dec-01-11 02:12 PM   #71 
  - We get it. But you're wrong.  TheWraith   Nov-30-11 05:52 PM   # 
  - You don't get it. And you are wrong.  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-30-11 07:47 PM   #23 
  - Nicely put. n/t  truedelphi   Dec-01-11 02:54 AM   #44 
  - +100  Myrina   Dec-01-11 11:15 AM   #56 
  - You are exactly right, and the change is shaping up into something  Jackpine Radical   Dec-01-11 11:52 AM   #61 
  - 1++++ Right on! There's a difference between "change" and authentic change.  patrice   Dec-01-11 03:24 PM   #78 
  - +1  rtassi   Dec-01-11 04:02 PM   #83 
  - exactly - well put. not to mention that  bread_and_roses   Dec-02-11 06:26 PM   #109 
  - "...clueless idiots, unthinking tools, or witting shills for our Beloved Oligarchs"  fascisthunter   Dec-01-11 10:34 AM   #50 
  - My vote is "witting shills" -- Corporate media is bought and sold in this country.  LuckyLib   Dec-01-11 01:24 PM   #68 
  - "witting shills"... HA! I was thinking about that recently  fascisthunter   Dec-01-11 04:05 PM   #84 
  - deleted .. by self  rtassi   Dec-01-11 04:09 PM   #87 
  - I concur. The themes of economic parity and social justice are powerful ones.  MADem   Dec-01-11 02:39 PM   #74 
  - said brilliantly... and they play the games  handmade34   Nov-30-11 05:52 PM   #2 
  - A lot of people in the middle of that 99% are very uncomfortable  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 06:00 PM   #4 
     - That's their problem. Their fear. As the OP says, many in the  Bluenorthwest   Nov-30-11 06:46 PM   #14 
     - I'm happy with OWS -- but I won't be happy if the movement  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 06:58 PM   #19 
     - I see no one proposing a pig in a poke.  Enthusiast   Dec-01-11 01:18 PM   #67 
     - That, Ma'am, is the heart and soul of consvativism.  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-01-11 08:33 PM   #103 
  - exactly  FirstLight   Nov-30-11 05:57 PM   #3 
  - Fine, then lead. But toward specific goals. "Change"  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 06:01 PM   #5 
  - Change, the word alone, was an Obama slogan in 08.  Bluenorthwest   Nov-30-11 06:52 PM   #16 
  - The 99% includes many people who aren't Democrats or political at all.  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 06:57 PM   #18 
  - And the same people who bought those OBAMA slogans and shouted down anyone who said  MADem   Dec-01-11 02:46 PM   #75 
  - uh NO!  Caretha   Nov-30-11 08:10 PM   #28 
     - Thomas Paine was a leader. Who is leading OWS? n/t  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 08:37 PM   #29 
        - You think you know best  Caretha   Nov-30-11 08:41 PM   #31 
        - I don't think that any more than you think you're the best.  pnwmom   Nov-30-11 09:01 PM   #32 
        - That is not fair. pnwmom is simply, and respectfully posting her opinions. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-01-11 12:38 AM   #43 
        - Reliance on, and devotion to, leaders engenders fascism. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-01-11 08:35 PM   #104 
  - just an observation but  Phlem   Nov-30-11 07:32 PM   #22 
     - You get it.  FedUp_Queer   Dec-01-11 02:25 PM   #72 
  - Right. It's going to take time, of course, which is what seems to have been forgotten.  enough   Nov-30-11 06:03 PM   #6 
  - It is reasonable to ask  malthaussen   Nov-30-11 06:04 PM   #7 
  - The function of OWS it to get everyone to acknowledge the need for change. When enough people stand  Vincardog   Dec-01-11 11:06 AM   #54 
  - Well said and  Grey   Nov-30-11 06:05 PM   #8 
  - Well articulated!  hourglass1   Nov-30-11 06:07 PM   #9 
  - Well ok then.  PETRUS   Nov-30-11 06:09 PM   #10 
  - It'd be a lot simpler if you went straight to the 'corporations are not people'  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-30-11 06:13 PM   #11 
  - You don't get it. 'Corporationa are not people' is only a part of it.  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-30-11 07:56 PM   #26 
  - Bravo - and don't worry about the usual TPs from the usual suspects.  JackRiddler   Nov-30-11 06:17 PM   #12 
  - they are losing the battle of ideas badly  fascisthunter   Dec-01-11 10:37 AM   #51 
  - I disagree.  hootinholler   Nov-30-11 06:25 PM   #13 
  - You want change? You gotta MAKE the change, not beg for it hanging out...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-30-11 06:48 PM   #15 
  - The Occupations are based on picket lines...  Bluenorthwest   Nov-30-11 07:11 PM   #21 
  - And where would they be without the NLRB, Taft-Hartley, or...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-30-11 11:19 PM   #39 
  - So, TB, what I don't understand is why not let them do it whatever way they are doing it,  enough   Nov-30-11 07:48 PM   #24 
     - What makes you think I want to stop them, or that they are in the way...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-30-11 11:09 PM   #38 
  - thanks for saying it. Some people will NEVER get it.  russspeakeasy   Nov-30-11 06:55 PM   #17 
  - I do get it, but I'm old and I've seen and lived through a lot.  Paka   Nov-30-11 07:00 PM   #20 
  - Amen that brotha!  Phlem   Nov-30-11 07:52 PM   #25 
  - ::koff::...sista...::koff:: But thanks. n/t  TygrBright   Nov-30-11 08:09 PM   #27 
     - Oops sorry my bad, but  Phlem   Nov-30-11 09:33 PM   #33 
  - I get it. And you nailed it!! OCCUPY!! REC.  bertman   Nov-30-11 08:39 PM   #30 
  - Exactely!  Arctic Dave   Nov-30-11 09:45 PM   #34 
  - Good job....  pauldg0   Nov-30-11 10:24 PM   #35 
  - Masterful rant.  Canuckistanian   Nov-30-11 10:34 PM   #36 
  - The crazy thing about the New Yorker passage you quote is...  JackRiddler   Nov-30-11 10:56 PM   #37 
  - I wouldn't doubt that many who did the protest of XL  truedelphi   Dec-01-11 02:55 AM   #45 
  - BINGO.  FedUp_Queer   Dec-01-11 02:27 PM   #73 
     - Yes, I've been getting much of my XL and OWS news from Democracy Now...  JackRiddler   Dec-01-11 03:17 PM   #76 
        - Hmmm...maybe it is Xcel. Either way, it's bad.  FedUp_Queer   Dec-02-11 05:55 PM   #108 
  - K and *&%$@#**^ R!  bluestateboomer   Nov-30-11 11:28 PM   #40 
  - Who would OWS make their demands to?  Jim_Shorts   Nov-30-11 11:54 PM   #41 
  - Read  donheld   Dec-01-11 12:11 AM   #42 
  - Unlike those who keep saying that you weren't "specific" enough  BlueMTexpat   Dec-01-11 03:12 AM   #46 
  - Legally, corporate personhood is the only way corporations can be sued  Recursion   Dec-01-11 09:33 AM   #47 
  - I didn't know that but what law written in stone? Laws can be changed.  snagglepuss   Dec-01-11 03:42 PM   #80 
  - That's basically the extent of legal personhood  Recursion   Dec-01-11 05:28 PM   #98 
     - ::koff:: political donations as "free speech" ::koff:: Citizens United ring any bells? n/t  TygrBright   Dec-01-11 06:27 PM   #102 
  - it's the only way legal liabilities have ever attached to corporations.  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-01-11 08:49 PM   #105 
  - I had a conversation yesterday along these and the OP's lines  BlancheSplanchnik   Dec-01-11 11:51 AM   #60 
  - Well Done.  bvar22   Dec-01-11 10:11 AM   #48 
  - Brilliant.  HCE SuiGeneris   Dec-01-11 10:21 AM   #49 
  - excellent  ismnotwasm   Dec-01-11 10:44 AM   #52 
  - One of your best articles ever! Right on target.  BlancheSplanchnik   Dec-01-11 11:03 AM   #53 
  - I'm honored. Go right ahead. n/t  TygrBright   Dec-01-11 11:27 AM   #57 
  - All these 'smart' guys that write for a living just need to read  Beavker   Dec-01-11 11:08 AM   #55 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Dec-01-11 11:50 AM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-01-11 12:07 PM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-01-11 12:12 PM   #64 
  - That's.Effing.It.  Amonester   Dec-01-11 01:42 PM   #69 
  - Brilliant, Bright  Grateful for Hope   Dec-01-11 12:11 PM   #63 
  - They want OWS to have leaders because their propaganda machine is setup  harun   Dec-01-11 12:23 PM   #65 
  - A Yep!  BrendaBrick   Dec-01-11 03:59 PM   #82 
  - bloody f'kn awesome! k&r n/t  unionworks   Dec-01-11 12:50 PM   #66 
  - Awesomely spoken, Bright.  Desertrose   Dec-01-11 02:09 PM   #70 
  - Actually Bright, I think ''they'' know exactly what it's about.  DeSwiss   Dec-01-11 03:21 PM   #77 
  - 1++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++  patrice   Dec-01-11 03:25 PM   #79 
  - That may be why they are so afraid of the movement...  AntiFascist   Dec-01-11 03:45 PM   #81 
  - Never underestimate the element of SURPRISE!!!  BrendaBrick   Dec-01-11 04:07 PM   #86 
  - Awesome  hulka38   Dec-01-11 04:06 PM   #85 
  - I've said this before.  Kaleko   Dec-01-11 04:17 PM   #88 
  - Exactly. n/t  DeSwiss   Dec-01-11 04:53 PM   #93 
  - Excellent post....KR....but on a side note..to answer that age old question of the meaning of is....  ooglymoogly   Dec-01-11 04:26 PM   #89 
  - I am a clueless unthinking witting shill for the beloved oligarchs.  geckosfeet   Dec-01-11 04:45 PM   #90 
  - K&R  Ignis   Dec-01-11 04:48 PM   #91 
  - as an over 60 person, I get it.  onethatcares   Dec-01-11 04:49 PM   #92 
  - I would never expect the New Yorker to "get it." It's a blue blood waspy mag of the 1%  firehorse   Dec-01-11 04:58 PM   #94 
  - I think so many people in general have been so conditioned to see only  deutsey   Dec-01-11 05:19 PM   #95 
  - +1 Wonderful, thoughtful reply.  RufusTFirefly   Dec-01-11 06:20 PM   #101 
  - Anyone who doesn't understand the demands  Blue_In_AK   Dec-01-11 05:21 PM   #96 
  - Occupiers know the system is broken. How dare they not use that broken system to express this!!  RufusTFirefly   Dec-01-11 05:23 PM   #97 
  - actually more like a list of at least 3 demands  PatrynXX   Dec-01-11 05:57 PM   #100 
  - Awesome!  shanti   Dec-01-11 09:31 PM   #106 
  - k&r n/t  RainDog   Dec-02-11 12:54 AM   #107 
 

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