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"Senate To Vote On Legislation That Allows U.S. Military to Detain
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While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield even people in the United States itself.

Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a battlefield and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.

The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this presidentand every future president the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last nights Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.
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  - "Senate To Vote On Legislation That Allows U.S. Military to Detain midnight  Nov-25-11 11:38 PM   #0 
  - Damn, voting on Monday or Tuesday. They're quick when they wanna be. nt  Poll_Blind   Nov-25-11 11:47 PM   #1 
  - you have got to be kidding  limpyhobbler   Nov-26-11 12:05 AM   #2 
  - Seriously, that ridonkulous.  ZenaD   Nov-26-11 12:12 AM   #3 
  - Easy form to email Senate against this.  Eric J in MN   Nov-26-11 01:06 AM   #4 
  - Thanks.  Larkspur   Nov-26-11 07:49 AM   #8 
     - You're welcome NT  Eric J in MN   Nov-26-11 12:49 PM   #10 
  - of course our lovely president will veto this right?....right? nt  msongs   Nov-26-11 01:39 AM   #5 
  - Obama is against this.  Eric J in MN   Nov-26-11 12:53 PM   #11 
  - Welcome to 1984.  blkmusclmachine   Nov-26-11 05:24 AM   #6 
  - Another thread, same topic. Thanks for keeping this in the light....  Scuba   Nov-26-11 05:48 AM   #7 
  - Thanks suba, I've been spending time with my family and got to the news late  midnight   Nov-26-11 09:34 AM   #9 
  - The fact that bills like this  malthaussen   Nov-26-11 01:25 PM   #12 
  - kick  Eric J in MN   Nov-27-11 02:22 PM   #13 
  - To read the bill, google "National Defense Authorization Act 1867"  bhikkhu   Nov-27-11 03:20 PM   #14 
  - The ACLU on the site indicates otherwise:  midnight   Nov-27-11 04:57 PM   #15 
  - Here is the first part of Section 1032:  bhikkhu   Nov-27-11 05:24 PM   #16 
     - Thank you for posting.... Can you also post link?  midnight   Nov-27-11 06:55 PM   #17 
     - This is the link I was using:  bhikkhu   Nov-27-11 07:47 PM   #19 
        - Link does not work.  midnight   Dec-05-11 09:52 AM   #25 
     - Nowhere does the bill PROHIBIT detention of US citizens.  woo me with science   Nov-29-11 03:05 AM   #21 
     - You have skimmed over the obvious.  avebury   Dec-02-11 07:31 AM   #24 
  - Nowhere does the bill PROHIBIT detention of US citizens.  woo me with science   Nov-29-11 03:05 AM   #20 
  - Read the bill again. While it is not required to be used against  avebury   Dec-02-11 07:25 AM   #23 
  - If only the Prsident knew about this  pscot   Nov-27-11 07:31 PM   #18 
  - I don't think he really knows anyone in politics.  woo me with science   Nov-29-11 03:06 AM   #22 
  - how they voted- read it and weep  biermeister   Dec-05-11 10:24 AM   #26 
  - I'm heading to Canada  pghtytfan   Dec-05-11 02:34 PM   #27 

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