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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:30 AM
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In U.S. politics, the independents have it
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Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 09:30 AM by bemildred
Forget President Obama, House Speaker John A. Boehner and the less-interesting-than-their-name-suggests "Gang of Six." When the history of the Great Debt Ceiling Debate of 2011 gets written, the main character will not be a Beltway negotiator, or even a politician.

The only reason Washington is even talking about proposals to slow the growth of government spending, instead of robotically jacking up the nation's credit line for the 11th time in a decade, is that a large, decentralized group of citizen activists has spent the last few years loudly telling politicians from both parties one consistent message: restrain your own power or face our wrath.

Whether you conceive of the "tea party" as a heroic tamer of bipartisan big government or a diabolical hydra threatening America's very future, its success in precipitating a national debate over fiscal policy should give hope and a tactical blueprint to anyone who feels marginalized by politics.

It is now easier than ever for alienated ideological blocs to foist their single issue onto the table over the objections of politicians who perpetuate the status quo. It's becoming more and more clear to tea party activists and their analogues on issues from education reform to drug legalization that success in politics is directly proportional to independence from the two major political parties.
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  -In U.S. politics, the independents have it bemildred  Jul-26-11 09:30 AM   #0 
  - TeaBagger Party...independents?!? They. Are. The. Fringe. RIGHTwingers  BlueCaliDem   Jul-26-11 09:40 AM   #1 
  - What a load of horseshit. It's the global banks that are pushing this, and not just in the US.  leveymg   Jul-26-11 09:43 AM   #2 
  - I thought he was arguing that the two parties are in trouble.  bemildred   Jul-26-11 10:31 AM   #3 
     - It can be read either way. However, the Third Way isn't a viable alternative because it's just the  leveymg   Jul-26-11 12:49 PM   #4 
        - Yeah, but what we have now is "not viable" either.  bemildred   Jul-26-11 01:42 PM   #6 
           - I would be the last person to argue that the present arrangement is viable.  leveymg   Jul-26-11 01:57 PM   #8 
              - I mostly agree with that.  bemildred   Jul-26-11 02:14 PM   #9 
                 - Two words about that: "Eva Peron"  leveymg   Jul-26-11 02:50 PM   #10 
                    - Sound points all.  bemildred   Jul-27-11 08:23 AM   #12 
  - This drives home your point:  pscot   Jul-26-11 01:40 PM   #5 
     - Well, it's not exactly mine, but yeah.  bemildred   Jul-26-11 01:50 PM   #7 
        - Perot's movement was top down,  pscot   Jul-26-11 03:51 PM   #11 
           - True, there are differences, and nobody really knows where it goes.  bemildred   Jul-27-11 08:31 AM   #13 
              - It's been kind of like watching  pscot   Jul-27-11 12:53 PM   #14 

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