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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:29 AM
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58. As a small farmer, I don't want these products.
First poison drenched food is very unappealing and what we small farmers grow, we eat and give to our families to eat and otherwise use the crop in other areas of our farm.

Somethings I've discovered in the course of farming. Round up drenched crops or crop waste can NOT be used for mulch. The round up it was drenched in, even say corn stalks, will kill any seed or plant you try growing in it. So, round up drenched crops and crop waste must be carefully separated and prevented from getting near any other crop you have growing. This is particularly difficult as a small farmer because small farmers don't just grow one crop. We have to diversify in order to make enough money. So, it's a really big hassle to find a dumping ground for round up drenched crop waste.

As a small farmer I can't afford to buy seeds every year. I save seeds a lot, this cuts down on expenses. You can NOT save GMO seeds. You have to buy them every year. By buying seeds every year, your crop never adapts. Most crops get healthier and stronger each year you plant your saved seeds. GMO crops can't and don't. True some GMO crops have some protections from some insects and diseases but they don't have protection from them all. So, unlike the pumpkins whose best producer I save the seed from each year, GMO crops will still have the same diseases and bug problems they had last year.

It costs a lot for all those chemicals. I've recently gone to certified naturally grown production and a lot our pest management products we get right from our kitchen at a quarter of the cost for the chemicals.

So, no most small farmers don't want the crap Monsanto is giving out unless of course they are inexperienced and haven't worked and farmed with the stuff.
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  -Why Is Damning New Evidence About Monsanto's Most Widely Used Herbicide Being Silenced? marmar  Apr-30-11 08:22 AM   #0 
  - Russian RT News had a documentary on the general subject recently  dipsydoodle   Apr-30-11 08:35 AM   #1 
  - I just read the article  Botany   Apr-30-11 08:36 AM   #2 
  - I thought it was obvious it was using AIDS as an analogy,  ThomCat   May-01-11 12:58 AM   #9 
  - and it was a very poor analogy at that  Botany   May-01-11 07:27 AM   #14 
  - hmm...  chervilant   May-01-11 03:36 PM   #33 
  - Here we go again.  Buzz Clik   Apr-30-11 08:53 AM   #3 
  - The article mentioned that he cited a European journal at least once.  ThomCat   May-01-11 01:00 AM   #10 
  - If the only citation was a single European journal, then he has scant evidence.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 08:27 AM   #15 
  - From the O.P., I gleaned that Huber sent the letter  dotymed   May-01-11 10:19 AM   #16 
  - The whole problem was the Huber sent the letter through a third party, and the policy ...  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:02 PM   #20 
  - Check out http://gmwatch.org/  proverbialwisdom   May-01-11 10:53 AM   #17 
  - If any of that were true, there would be a 100% turnover in the editorial staff at Nature.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:09 PM   #21 
     - Oh?  proverbialwisdom   May-01-11 03:41 PM   #35 
        - "All this speaks for itself, doesn't it?" I have no idea.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 03:50 PM   #38 
           - OMG!  chervilant   May-01-11 06:55 PM   #42 
              - That was my reaction to your obsessed website. It reminds of the crap compiled by the Truthers.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 08:59 PM   #45 
                 - hmm...  chervilant   May-01-11 09:42 PM   #51 
                 - BTW  chervilant   May-01-11 10:09 PM   #52 
  - It's amazing that people still trust and defend corporations with known dubious pasts, agendas...  L0oniX   May-01-11 12:46 PM   #19 
  - Bullshit.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:11 PM   #22 
     - Bullshit! Monsanto is always attacking little farmers because their GM shit cross pollinates...  L0oniX   May-01-11 01:13 PM   #23 
     - Shill? No. I receive no money from any corporations of any kind. I just hate bullshit.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:18 PM   #25 
        - Probably more of them than you ...and worked on them too.  L0oniX   May-01-11 01:24 PM   #26 
        - Wrong answer.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:43 PM   #29 
           - mainstream/corporate farmers ...no I don't know any of those sociopaths.  L0oniX   May-01-11 01:50 PM   #30 
           - So, any farmer that wants GM crops is a corporate sociopath.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 03:49 PM   #37 
              - "any farmer" nice reframe attempt. You are obviously not worth communicating with.  L0oniX   May-01-11 07:14 PM   #43 
                 - Then let me rephrase:  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 09:00 PM   #46 
           - What's the matter? Your Monsanto Stock Pices faltering?  Grinchie   May-02-11 04:02 AM   #53 
              - Notice  chervilant   May-05-11 01:33 PM   #65 
        - Try saving any of the harvested bt corn seed for re-planting and they  russspeakeasy   May-01-11 01:30 PM   #27 
           - Yeah. Try saving money by photocopying a book. Same problem.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:42 PM   #28 
              - I don't think you get it. It's a Patent, they own the patent.  russspeakeasy   May-01-11 03:32 PM   #32 
                 - They patent the modified crop itself. If you want Roundup Ready, you pay.l  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 03:48 PM   #36 
     - Ignorance is bliss.  chervilant   May-01-11 07:20 PM   #44 
     - tsk tsk.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 09:05 PM   #47 
        - hmph!  chervilant   May-01-11 09:28 PM   #49 
        - You are a shill buzzzzzzzz. Goodbye.  russspeakeasy   May-02-11 11:07 AM   #54 
        - Buzz, Tone of Speech does matter.  PurgedVoter   May-02-11 04:44 PM   #55 
           - One at a time:  Buzz Clik   May-02-11 09:02 PM   #56 
              - I rather do not appreciate your approach.  PurgedVoter   May-03-11 11:01 AM   #60 
              - Unsupported? Not likely.  Buzz Clik   May-03-11 01:29 PM   #61 
                 - hmm...  chervilant   May-05-11 01:14 PM   #63 
              - hmm...  chervilant   May-05-11 01:30 PM   #64 
     - As a small farmer, I don't want these products.  fasttense   May-03-11 04:29 AM   #58 
  - hmm...  chervilant   May-01-11 06:38 PM   #41 
     - This is getting silly.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 09:15 PM   #48 
        - Silly?  chervilant   May-01-11 09:40 PM   #50 
  - Full strength vinegar will kill any plant you don't want.  WhiteTara   Apr-30-11 09:18 AM   #4 
  - Okay. It is sunny, and I just dumped vinegar on ten seedlings.  Buzz Clik   May-01-11 01:17 PM   #24 
     - Probably a day or two. Let me know.  WhiteTara   May-01-11 03:08 PM   #31 
     - How old are the seedlings?  fasttense   May-03-11 04:38 AM   #59 
  - "penned a confidential letter to Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack"  bvar22   Apr-30-11 12:18 PM   #5 
  - Ain't it funny how over the last two years plus, we all  truedelphi   May-01-11 01:44 AM   #11 
  - +1  pscot   Apr-30-11 04:13 PM   #6 
  - Corporate donations one presumes.  MasonJar   Apr-30-11 04:32 PM   #7 
  - Because the FDA and Homeland security is being run by the former  midnight   Apr-30-11 10:03 PM   #8 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   May-01-11 04:29 AM   #12 
  - Letters to individuals  skepticscott   May-01-11 06:56 AM   #13 
  - Recommended  somone   May-01-11 11:11 AM   #18 
  - I'll tell you why: because it doesn't pass the smell test.  Capitalocracy   May-01-11 03:39 PM   #34 
  - Ripe Round Up Award Ear of Corn Trophy on Webkinz....  Dont call me Shirley   May-01-11 04:32 PM   #39 
  - kick  Stuart G   May-01-11 04:33 PM   #40 
  - Monsanto is the Osama Bin Laden of corporations.  avaistheone1   May-03-11 02:31 AM   #57 
  - Marmar, may I direct you to an article I wrote  truedelphi   May-03-11 02:03 PM   #62 
 

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