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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 08:53 PM
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36. We already did have that group of people
It's called the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence.

Here's the biggest problem with the Bush theory that getting rid of compartmented information would prevent another 9/11: on August 6, 2001, Bush was told in no uncertain terms that al Qaeda was going to pull an attack, and how they were probably going to do it. Those warnings were ignored, with results we're all too painfully aware of. No amount of increased access will change the fact that Bush didn't give a fuck about terrorism until terrorism happened to him.
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  -Reasons why Bradley Manning's alleged Crimes are Serious and deserve Harsh Punishment Robb  Jan-02-11 06:45 AM   #0 
  - The crimes currently being committed against Bradley Manning are far more ...  Jim__   Jan-02-11 07:11 AM   #1 
  - As are the crimes he helped expose.  baldguy   Jan-02-11 08:23 AM   #4 
  - Thank you for using the word "alleged," which rarely turns up in discussions of Manning. (nt)  enough   Jan-02-11 07:34 AM   #2 
  - K&R  lamp_shade   Jan-02-11 07:54 AM   #3 
  - Shooting the messenger ...  GeorgeGist   Jan-02-11 08:25 AM   #5 
  - If he's the guilty party, he's not the messenger.  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 02:13 PM   #25 
  - What about the IG process he could have used?  treestar   Jan-04-11 05:02 PM   #54 
  - "The ideology of Democratic Underground's membership is pretty homogenous."  bemildred   Jan-02-11 08:34 AM   #6 
  - You read it so carefully, of course...  Robb   Jan-02-11 08:49 AM   #7 
     - I was addressing Mr Leser.  bemildred   Jan-02-11 08:56 AM   #8 
        - Just saw this here so here I am...  stevenleser   Jan-02-11 06:35 PM   #33 
           - Thanks for the response.  bemildred   Jan-02-11 06:54 PM   #34 
           - We already did have that group of people  jmowreader   Jan-02-11 08:53 PM   #36 
              - Of course. We agree 100%, it was just an excuse  stevenleser   Jan-02-11 09:28 PM   #38 
  - Should wilikleaks post the names and addresses of all Americans on terrorist watch lists?  stray cat   Jan-02-11 09:26 AM   #9 
  - Yes. We do. After all it was we the people who stopped any of the attacks on 9-11, not anyone  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 10:01 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-02-11 09:34 AM   #10 
  - Yeah we should have hung Daniel Ellsberg.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 09:45 AM   #11 
  - Ellsberg agrees he broke the law, and was prepared to pay the consequences  Robb   Jan-02-11 09:58 AM   #12 
  - So you think Ellsberg deserved harsh punishment?  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 10:29 AM   #15 
  - Nice try, but read my post again.  Robb   Jan-02-11 10:36 AM   #16 
  - So again, if the FBI hadn't violated Ellsberg's rights  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 11:09 AM   #18 
     - They did throw the book at him.  Robb   Jan-02-11 11:13 AM   #19 
  - Daniel Ellsberg had a chance to leak several volumes of diplomatic  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 12:20 PM   #21 
     - There really are not a lot of legal differences.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-02-11 12:50 PM   #22 
        - It is true that all of the leaks were illegal, by both Ellsberg and Manning,  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 02:05 PM   #23 
  - The leaks are evidence of a pattern and practice criminal behavior. You are defending the criminals  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 10:00 AM   #13 
  - The overwhelming majority of leaks don't uncover criminal behavior.  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 12:15 PM   #20 
  - 1997 / 251,287 have been released so far.  xocet   Jan-02-11 11:34 PM   #41 
  - The leaks are evidence of the leaker's criminal behavior.  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 02:12 PM   #24 
  - I understand what your saying, but I think you need to see the bigger picture to understand the  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 03:16 PM   #27 
     - Doesn't needlessly undermining our talks with China  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 03:30 PM   #28 
        - Is there a particular cable you are talking about? I haven't seen anything detrimental.  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 03:34 PM   #29 
           - There are differences between the Communist party (which is  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 05:44 PM   #31 
              - I don't see anything there that is concerning, more like shining a light into the dark cesspool  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 08:28 PM   #35 
                 - Then I'm glad you're not a diplomat, because an understanding  pnwmom   Jan-02-11 09:07 PM   #37 
                    - Exactly, which points to two problems with those who support Manning, Assange and Wikileaks  stevenleser   Jan-02-11 09:30 PM   #39 
                       - That would only be true if  grahamhgreen   Jan-02-11 10:15 PM   #40 
                          - It goes far beyond embarrassing.  pnwmom   Jan-03-11 12:23 AM   #42 
                             - Interesting  grahamhgreen   Jan-03-11 02:29 PM   #44 
                                - Yes, what the article calls "double-dipping" simply means  pnwmom   Jan-03-11 04:00 PM   #45 
                                   - they are only considering making support for sanctions illegal  reorg   Jan-03-11 05:28 PM   #46 
                                      - You think the last election was an honest election? The reason  pnwmom   Jan-03-11 10:06 PM   #49 
                                         - I think you are overreacting  reorg   Jan-04-11 07:23 AM   #51 
  - You didn't read the article.  treestar   Jan-04-11 05:02 PM   #53 
  - Well that's just fine, IF he is guilty as charged and is convicted in a fair trial,  kestrel91316   Jan-02-11 10:52 AM   #17 
  - If you have been asleep for the last 10 years  bhikkhu   Jan-02-11 02:57 PM   #26 
  - Why do you view this as a black and white, all or nothing proposition?  pnwmom   Jan-03-11 10:32 PM   #50 
     - Good question, and I suppose it comes down to one's predispositions  bhikkhu   Jan-04-11 10:28 AM   #52 
  - George Bush perjured himself to the entire citizenry and started two illegal wars so  mudplanet   Jan-02-11 03:46 PM   #30 
  - Not to mention decades of crap in S. America, Africa, and the Middle East  bhikkhu   Jan-02-11 05:51 PM   #32 
  - the author appears to be soliciting serious crimes that deserve harsh punishment  reorg   Jan-03-11 02:13 AM   #43 
  - Why Dick Cheney's, George Bush's, Karl Rove's,  Doctor_J   Jan-03-11 09:26 PM   #47 
  - OR, "Reasons why Daniel Ellsberg's alleged Crimes are Serious and deserve Harsh Punishment"  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-03-11 09:41 PM   #48 
 

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