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Sun Jan-02-11 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #33 |
| 36. We already did have that group of people |
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It's called the CIA's Directorate of Intelligence.
Here's the biggest problem with the Bush theory that getting rid of compartmented information would prevent another 9/11: on August 6, 2001, Bush was told in no uncertain terms that al Qaeda was going to pull an attack, and how they were probably going to do it. Those warnings were ignored, with results we're all too painfully aware of. No amount of increased access will change the fact that Bush didn't give a fuck about terrorism until terrorism happened to him.
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| -Reasons why Bradley Manning's alleged Crimes are Serious and deserve Harsh Punishment |
Robb |
Jan-02-11 06:45 AM |
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The crimes currently being committed against Bradley Manning are far more ... |
Jim__ |
Jan-02-11 07:11 AM |
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As are the crimes he helped expose. |
baldguy |
Jan-02-11 08:23 AM |
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Thank you for using the word "alleged," which rarely turns up in discussions of Manning. (nt) |
enough |
Jan-02-11 07:34 AM |
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K&R |
lamp_shade |
Jan-02-11 07:54 AM |
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Shooting the messenger ... |
GeorgeGist |
Jan-02-11 08:25 AM |
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If he's the guilty party, he's not the messenger. |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 02:13 PM |
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What about the IG process he could have used? |
treestar |
Jan-04-11 05:02 PM |
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"The ideology of Democratic Underground's membership is pretty homogenous." |
bemildred |
Jan-02-11 08:34 AM |
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You read it so carefully, of course... |
Robb |
Jan-02-11 08:49 AM |
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I was addressing Mr Leser. |
bemildred |
Jan-02-11 08:56 AM |
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Just saw this here so here I am... |
stevenleser |
Jan-02-11 06:35 PM |
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Thanks for the response. |
bemildred |
Jan-02-11 06:54 PM |
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We already did have that group of people |
jmowreader |
Jan-02-11 08:53 PM |
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Of course. We agree 100%, it was just an excuse |
stevenleser |
Jan-02-11 09:28 PM |
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Should wilikleaks post the names and addresses of all Americans on terrorist watch lists? |
stray cat |
Jan-02-11 09:26 AM |
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Yes. We do. After all it was we the people who stopped any of the attacks on 9-11, not anyone |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 10:01 AM |
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Jan-02-11 09:34 AM |
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Yeah we should have hung Daniel Ellsberg. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-02-11 09:45 AM |
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Ellsberg agrees he broke the law, and was prepared to pay the consequences |
Robb |
Jan-02-11 09:58 AM |
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So you think Ellsberg deserved harsh punishment? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-02-11 10:29 AM |
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Nice try, but read my post again. |
Robb |
Jan-02-11 10:36 AM |
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So again, if the FBI hadn't violated Ellsberg's rights |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-02-11 11:09 AM |
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They did throw the book at him. |
Robb |
Jan-02-11 11:13 AM |
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Daniel Ellsberg had a chance to leak several volumes of diplomatic |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 12:20 PM |
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There really are not a lot of legal differences. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jan-02-11 12:50 PM |
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It is true that all of the leaks were illegal, by both Ellsberg and Manning, |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 02:05 PM |
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The leaks are evidence of a pattern and practice criminal behavior. You are defending the criminals |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 10:00 AM |
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The overwhelming majority of leaks don't uncover criminal behavior. |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 12:15 PM |
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1997 / 251,287 have been released so far. |
xocet |
Jan-02-11 11:34 PM |
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The leaks are evidence of the leaker's criminal behavior. |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 02:12 PM |
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I understand what your saying, but I think you need to see the bigger picture to understand the |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 03:16 PM |
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Doesn't needlessly undermining our talks with China |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 03:30 PM |
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Is there a particular cable you are talking about? I haven't seen anything detrimental. |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 03:34 PM |
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There are differences between the Communist party (which is |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 05:44 PM |
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I don't see anything there that is concerning, more like shining a light into the dark cesspool |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 08:28 PM |
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Then I'm glad you're not a diplomat, because an understanding |
pnwmom |
Jan-02-11 09:07 PM |
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Exactly, which points to two problems with those who support Manning, Assange and Wikileaks |
stevenleser |
Jan-02-11 09:30 PM |
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That would only be true if |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-02-11 10:15 PM |
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It goes far beyond embarrassing. |
pnwmom |
Jan-03-11 12:23 AM |
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Interesting |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-03-11 02:29 PM |
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Yes, what the article calls "double-dipping" simply means |
pnwmom |
Jan-03-11 04:00 PM |
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they are only considering making support for sanctions illegal |
reorg |
Jan-03-11 05:28 PM |
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You think the last election was an honest election? The reason |
pnwmom |
Jan-03-11 10:06 PM |
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I think you are overreacting |
reorg |
Jan-04-11 07:23 AM |
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You didn't read the article. |
treestar |
Jan-04-11 05:02 PM |
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Well that's just fine, IF he is guilty as charged and is convicted in a fair trial, |
kestrel91316 |
Jan-02-11 10:52 AM |
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If you have been asleep for the last 10 years |
bhikkhu |
Jan-02-11 02:57 PM |
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Why do you view this as a black and white, all or nothing proposition? |
pnwmom |
Jan-03-11 10:32 PM |
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Good question, and I suppose it comes down to one's predispositions |
bhikkhu |
Jan-04-11 10:28 AM |
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George Bush perjured himself to the entire citizenry and started two illegal wars so |
mudplanet |
Jan-02-11 03:46 PM |
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Not to mention decades of crap in S. America, Africa, and the Middle East |
bhikkhu |
Jan-02-11 05:51 PM |
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the author appears to be soliciting serious crimes that deserve harsh punishment |
reorg |
Jan-03-11 02:13 AM |
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Why Dick Cheney's, George Bush's, Karl Rove's, |
Doctor_J |
Jan-03-11 09:26 PM |
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OR, "Reasons why Daniel Ellsberg's alleged Crimes are Serious and deserve Harsh Punishment" |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-03-11 09:41 PM |
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