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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:45 AM
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32. No you didn't
That's the wrong wiki link. Here's the disambiguation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_%28disambiguation%...

And here's the link that does actually cover the Prussian Junkers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junker

The part you're a little confused on is the nature of the Junker class. By and large, they were a feudal class, that gained their money through a monopolization of the dominant mode of production in the feudal era: agriculture. Junkers are associated most closely with farming, not industry, but you are right to note that they were rich, for the most part (though some were, of course, much richer than others).

Junkers are a Prussian phenomenon, whereas Nazism got its start elsewhere, most notably in Bavaria and other southern parts of Germany. Though some Junkers did become Nazis and ardent Hitler supporters, they were, as a class, disdainful of him, not because he was evil, but because he was vulgar. The wikipedia article notes the ambiguous relationship between Nazis and the Prussian elite, and there's a lot elsewhere, notably on the strained relationship between Hitler and the Prussian officer corps.

If the Junker class is to blame for anything, it is that they were jingoistic and militaristic, but this had more to do with WWI than WWII.
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