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Tue Nov-03-09 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 22. thanks for the great links! n/t |
| -Is H1B Policy to Blame for Shortage of U.S.-born Technology Graduates? |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 09:58 AM |
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No, its our own damn education system, giving gobs of $$$ to football programs |
Taverner |
Nov-03-09 10:03 AM |
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I agree. |
juno jones |
Nov-03-09 10:59 AM |
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winning games while losing jobs - the priorities of an imbecile nation nt |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 11:00 AM |
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The truth is in the middle. Both you and OhioChick are not incorrect... |
Deja Q |
Nov-05-09 05:23 PM |
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well, not entirely, but it doesn't help |
ixion |
Nov-03-09 10:04 AM |
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It's true. Enrollment is dropping because it is seen as a dead end |
Go2Peace |
Nov-04-09 03:16 AM |
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Many if not most H1-b were educated in US schools. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-03-09 10:05 AM |
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Right, and US students sometimes have difficulty understanding their TAs in math, science, etc.nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 11:15 AM |
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OH!! Did you go there???? SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID IT!! n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-03-09 02:23 PM |
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Many do get an education here but far more come over on not just H1-B but other visa progs |
Go2Peace |
Nov-04-09 03:19 AM |
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Wow, what an obscene quote from the CEO of SAS in there |
Newsjock |
Nov-03-09 10:05 AM |
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It doesn't help that a Ph. D likely means $50-$80 thousand in debt for a graduate. |
caseymoz |
Nov-03-09 12:30 PM |
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Fed Funding for graduate school was cut in the late '60s because it kept folks out of the draft. |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 01:14 PM |
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I wasn't aware of that cut. Interesting they didn't reinstitute it in the 70s. nt |
caseymoz |
Nov-03-09 02:21 PM |
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Yes, I've always been fascinated by that. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 02:34 PM |
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Why does he need a PhD to write code? |
SharonAnn |
Nov-06-09 03:36 PM |
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Its not the visas fault American students can't do math or science |
stray cat |
Nov-03-09 10:20 AM |
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no, but it's the visa's fault that math and science wages have been demolished nt |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 10:21 AM |
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All the math/science hype is a cruel joke |
ramapo |
Nov-03-09 10:26 AM |
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India and China don't screw their own citizens who study math and science |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 10:29 AM |
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Better yet...US should learn not to screw Teachers! |
Vehl |
Nov-03-09 01:30 PM |
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Hey newbie! NAIL ON THE HEAD!! n/t |
Fire1 |
Nov-03-09 02:24 PM |
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Ty:) one of my professor's is getting laid off this sem ... |
Vehl |
Nov-03-09 02:38 PM |
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Now you understand how folks in the construction and eldercare fields feel. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 11:13 AM |
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I've always been against destruction of ANY jobs |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 11:16 AM |
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I, too, study labor. And I was glad to see your note. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 11:18 AM |
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No, see #24. It was changes made to higher ed. under Reagan |
caseymoz |
Nov-03-09 12:34 PM |
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Deleted |
Go2Peace |
Nov-04-09 03:25 AM |
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Will you just please SHUT it with the Repuke talking points already? |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-03-09 11:07 AM |
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I teach relativity to high school students. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-03-09 12:48 PM |
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Stray cat, we already know your background. |
Go2Peace |
Nov-04-09 03:24 AM |
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Chicken or the egg, maybe students see NO INCENTIVE TO LEARN OR USE THOSE CONCEPTS... |
Deja Q |
Nov-05-09 05:24 PM |
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Neither can most of the H1B's I've worked with |
The Traveler |
Nov-06-09 02:58 AM |
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The irony is.... |
ramapo |
Nov-03-09 10:21 AM |
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Hillary and Obama on H-1b |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 10:26 AM |
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Of course it is |
LiberalEsto |
Nov-03-09 10:29 AM |
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Hmmm.... |
OhioChick |
Nov-03-09 11:08 AM |
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thanks for the great links! n/t |
ccinamon |
Nov-03-09 11:18 AM |
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In part, yes. Not only are US-born kids crowded out, as undergraduates they often complain |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 11:12 AM |
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I had TA's that could barely speak English AT ALL |
mule_train |
Nov-03-09 11:17 AM |
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I had an Intro to US Govt. prof from Korea whom I could not understand, AND |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 11:19 AM |
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I'ts not just us-born kids who suffer cos of ta's |
Vehl |
Nov-03-09 01:53 PM |
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Yes it's up to students to prepare, but they're paying those teachers and TAs. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 02:36 PM |
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true. |
Vehl |
Nov-03-09 02:43 PM |
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At Univ. Toronto, we TAs were paid something like $20 an hour. I can't remember |
Captain Hilts |
Nov-03-09 02:50 PM |
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wow! thats pretty good pay! |
Vehl |
Nov-03-09 03:03 PM |
#38 |
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