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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 03:34 PM
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25. No and yes
There is a lot of criticism of China. There's a huge anti-Walmart crowd on DU, a huge reason being the fact that they import nearly everything from China. There's a lot of criticism whenever a US company opens a plant in China (or any other country for that matter).

But your last statement definitely has some truth to it. The IT industry is, I believe, the first white collar industry to get significantly affected by immigration/offshoring/outsourcing/etc. So a huge chunk of America's workforce now feels vulnerable, regardless of field. Hence, the massive push against legal skilled immigrant labor (as well as outsourcing/offshoring/etc).

And because the IT industry has been focused on India and Indians, the feelings against India/Indians runs high. And yet many of these same people will question why some lower-income southern agricultural family has strong emotions when it comes to Mexico/Mexicans, and will be quick to point them out as culturally ignorant xenophobes.
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  -Foreign-Born Entrepreneurs Have Created Million Of Jobs For Americans AlphaCentauri  Aug-11-09 11:19 AM   #0 
  - You mean the Slum Lords  FreakinDJ   Aug-11-09 11:21 AM   #1 
  - Do you have some data about immigrant Slum Lords? n/t  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 11:38 AM   #3 
     - No - just plenty of experience  FreakinDJ   Aug-11-09 01:06 PM   #10 
        - wow, an anonymous Internet forum poster said so. I'm reeeeally convinced that  ima_sinnic   Aug-12-09 05:15 AM   #56 
  - Immigration isn't the problem  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 11:35 AM   #2 
  - Bingo. n/t  OhioChick   Aug-11-09 11:39 AM   #4 
  - The only problem is that many take the simplistic approach to blame immigrants  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 11:41 AM   #5 
  - Yes, and they also see pro-immigration people in bed with the corporations  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 11:55 AM   #6 
     - Immigrant activist don't have a TV show to express their concerns  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 12:16 PM   #7 
        - That would require pro-immigration activists to stop using corporate talking points  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 12:20 PM   #8 
           - and the American worker to stop using the xenophobic rhetoric  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 12:30 PM   #9 
              - Yes, if it's truly xenophobic rhetoric.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 01:44 PM   #12 
                 - Interesting that I don't see too many people on DU say...  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 02:12 PM   #14 
                 - Misdirected priorities is a very apt description  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 02:35 PM   #15 
                 - Perception is not 9/10ths of the law.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:25 PM   #39 
                 - Most immigration rights activist work for the poor not for the H1B holders  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 09:43 PM   #49 
                    - They are well meaning people. That is true.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 10:29 PM   #50 
                       - The employer wants to keep the low pay and good first class labor  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 10:48 PM   #51 
                          - 'low pay and good first class labor'  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 11:55 PM   #54 
  - It's truly wonderful to read posts where people actually understand the economic paradigm!  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:23 PM   #38 
     - Just noticed that...."Immigration Daily"  OhioChick   Aug-11-09 05:25 PM   #40 
     - I'm a subscriber to Warren Buffett's philosophy  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 06:05 PM   #46 
  - I'm sure someone will take one of those jobs.  juno jones   Aug-11-09 01:23 PM   #11 
  - Nice article, but beware the DU backlash  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 02:05 PM   #13 
  - Most posts here are anti H1B (Indian)  varun   Aug-11-09 02:39 PM   #16 
     - Oh bullcrap.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 02:50 PM   #18 
     - Call it a strawman if you want, but it's not  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 03:24 PM   #22 
     - Total strawman  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 04:07 PM   #29 
        - Fair enough...but...  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 04:27 PM   #33 
     - Thank you.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:30 PM   #42 
     - No and yes  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 03:34 PM   #25 
     - I have seen posts were people support the killers of a Mexican immigrant  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 11:02 PM   #52 
        - Can you link to any?  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-09 12:05 AM   #55 
           - check it out  AlphaCentauri   Aug-12-09 10:07 AM   #57 
              - In the first link there are a couple of people pointing out that the victim was sleeping w/a 14 yo  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-09 10:14 AM   #58 
              - Second one: One person mentioning the victim's sexual relationship with a teen  Hello_Kitty   Aug-12-09 10:20 AM   #59 
     - Most of the articles are about IT, and the media hones in on one country.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:26 PM   #41 
  - not to mention some of the brilliant scientists who were/ are immigrants  varun   Aug-11-09 02:41 PM   #17 
  - That's because the American education system has been decimated.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 02:58 PM   #20 
     - Money is not the solution  varun   Aug-11-09 03:35 PM   #26 
     - You know that's a RW talking point, don't you? 'Money is not the solution'  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 03:58 PM   #28 
     - What's your take on improving American schools, if ours are in such a piss-poor state?  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:44 PM   #44 
     - Becoming a doctor doesn't get you the stature of a movie star  AlphaCentauri   Aug-11-09 11:09 PM   #53 
     - Spot-on analysis.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 05:35 PM   #43 
  - Immigration policy is complex  kristopher   Aug-11-09 02:57 PM   #19 
     - Very well said.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 03:06 PM   #21 
     - look into the mirror  varun   Aug-11-09 03:33 PM   #24 
        - What an utterly empty and meaningless response.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 04:10 PM   #30 
           - He's half-right...  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 06:04 PM   #45 
              - Being anti-fraud is great  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 08:44 PM   #48 
     - Do you know about the restrictons on a legal immigrant in US?  varun   Aug-11-09 03:32 PM   #23 
     - I'm a lot more concerned about American students having access to college  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 04:17 PM   #31 
     - You're making unwarranted assumptions  varun   Aug-11-09 04:26 PM   #32 
        - Then you of all people should know what's going on in this country  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 04:41 PM   #34 
           - I agree with everything you said about education in US  varun   Aug-11-09 04:50 PM   #35 
              - Please point to where I am blaming H-1B workers. You can't, because I didn't.  Hello_Kitty   Aug-11-09 04:55 PM   #36 
              - I've been reading this entire thread... and for this point, you are wrong.  Deja Q   Aug-11-09 06:07 PM   #47 
     - Yes I think I do.  kristopher   Aug-11-09 04:55 PM   #37 
     - You make some valid points  sledgehammer   Aug-11-09 03:55 PM   #27 
 

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