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36. I know that when he first joined the Senate I was surprised at some
of his votes and comments. They seemed to lean DLC. I always thought that Hillary was to the left of Obama and I admit I wanted her to win. Then when Obama won, I supported him wholeheartedly, expecting him to be at least somewhat liberal. He spoke thus in the campaign, but I was also a little wary after his vote on the legislation which gave immunity to AT&T et al. I am pleased with most of his environmental policies (not the on removing the wolves for Endangered Species list), but I am skeptical of his health care proposal and if it does not contain a public option, I hope the House dems who warned him they would not support a bill with no public option will stick to their guns and sink the bill. Otherwise it is just another pro-corp piece of chichanery. I cannot believe he will not even select a Special Prosecutor. He is not like Bill Clinton. President Clinton allowed a Special Prosecutor to investigate himself when he had done nothing. Obama will not investigate horrendous crimes which have not only proof but confessions on the airwave. I was so hopeful and I am now so discouraged.
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  -"Shallow Throat": Is Obama Turning Into Bush Lite? CrisisPapers  May-19-09 12:22 PM   #0 
  - The answer is no.  tridim   May-19-09 12:23 PM   #1 
  - Of course that's the answer, but supporting Obama garners scant attention at DU.  Buzz Clik   May-19-09 12:34 PM   #5 
  - I support Obama asking that settlements stop being built in the west bank.  John Q. Citizen   May-19-09 07:01 PM   #35 
  - Correct. nt  TheWraith   May-19-09 01:07 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-09 01:07 PM   #13 
  - Are you calling me out?  tridim   May-19-09 01:30 PM   #15 
  - The answer is, he was ALWAYS Bush Lite. Thread goes on.  Jim Sagle   May-19-09 02:11 PM   #22 
  - Can you provide one example?  tridim   May-19-09 02:22 PM   #25 
  - Gates and Geithner. That's two. With many more if you want them.  Jim Sagle   May-19-09 02:36 PM   #27 
  - You said he has "always been Bush Lite"  tridim   May-19-09 02:49 PM   #28 
     - Memos are meaningless without prosecutions  derby378   May-19-09 03:29 PM   #29 
     - Then stay tuned for the upcoming investigations.  tridim   May-19-09 03:33 PM   #30 
        - It's like that Follow the Pencil game in some of those "Brain Age" games  derby378   May-19-09 03:45 PM   #31 
        - If Obama had released the photos, he would've tainted the jury pool & gotten war crimes MIS-trials  troubledamerican   May-19-09 10:34 PM   #39 
        - there aren't going to be any prosecutions  provis99   May-20-09 12:38 AM   #40 
     - I'd like to withdraw that "Bush Lite" and replace it with "Clinton 2.0" (see YOY's post below)..  Jim Sagle   May-19-09 05:46 PM   #33 
     - Then withheld the photos, refused to prosecute or thoroughly investigate  The Hope Mobile   Jun-03-09 12:41 AM   #49 
     - Quick point on the "Team Of Rivals".  ihavenobias   Jul-01-09 06:55 PM   #52 
  - Guantanamo staying open, abu garabe staying open, no withdrawal time lime for Iraq (still)  comtec   May-20-09 06:08 AM   #41 
  - so Omaba is bush lite jim? that's a mighty active imagination you have there.  dionysus   May-20-09 11:27 AM   #44 
  - And you're icon wasn't?  Ken Burch   Jun-03-09 12:07 AM   #48 
  - That was easy - and very correct.  TankLV   May-19-09 09:36 PM   #38 
  - Bush Lite? No...more like Clinton 2.0.  YOY   May-19-09 12:24 PM   #2 
  - Yes, he's very much like Bill Clinton, but has learned from Bubba's mistakes. Even the Hope campaign  Captain Hilts   May-19-09 01:45 PM   #18 
  - Yes - I Do Believe That Obama Has A Conservative Streak That Is starting To Shine  lostnotforgotten   May-19-09 12:27 PM   #3 
  - Too Bad  atreides1   May-19-09 12:40 PM   #7 
     - Yes - The Positive Message Of Hope Seems To Be Replaced By Corporatist Support And Rhetoric  lostnotforgotten   May-19-09 12:51 PM   #10 
        - Because comparing him to his moral polar opposite is so much more effective.  tridim   May-19-09 01:37 PM   #16 
           - I Don't Know What Point Is Being Made?  lostnotforgotten   May-19-09 01:44 PM   #17 
  - The entire world is looking at Obama and wondering, "Is that George Bush?"  Buzz Clik   May-19-09 12:33 PM   #4 
  - I am really tired of this shit  JitterbugPerfume   May-19-09 12:36 PM   #6 
  - Yeah  nichomachus   May-19-09 01:09 PM   #14 
  - No.  grytpype   May-19-09 12:42 PM   #8 
  - .  SIMPLYB1980   May-19-09 12:49 PM   #9 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-19-09 01:07 PM   #11 
  - The comments in the "circular firing squad" part are spot on as far as I can tell  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-19-09 01:49 PM   #19 
  - Or maybe Obama agrees more with the moderates and it's the  SIMPLYB1980   May-19-09 02:01 PM   #20 
  - The so-called "moderates" are the Lieberman Bayh wing and I  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-19-09 02:08 PM   #21 
  - Bzzzt.. Lieberman is NOT a moderate Democrat  tridim   May-19-09 02:19 PM   #23 
     - Yes, I know that. But he retained all his Dem seniority and his committee chair  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-19-09 02:33 PM   #26 
  - Wanting accountability, human rights, and health care for all  FiveGoodMen   Jul-01-09 06:33 PM   #51 
  - You are pointing out a common fact about the reading/thinking skills of  truedelphi   Jul-01-09 06:11 PM   #50 
  - Compromising for the long term gain is sometimes misinterpeted  opihimoimoi   May-19-09 02:20 PM   #24 
  - Very interesting,  kimmerspixelated   May-19-09 04:52 PM   #32 
  - I don't think there is anything "lite" about it. Obama is turning into Bush on too many issues.  katandmoon   May-19-09 05:47 PM   #34 
  - I know that when he first joined the Senate I was surprised at some  MasonJar   May-19-09 07:25 PM   #36 
  - Missed you...appreciate this thoughtful and timely post!  KoKo   May-19-09 08:09 PM   #37 
  - morning kick  DemReadingDU   May-20-09 09:53 AM   #42 
  - Political capital  BeFree   May-20-09 11:22 AM   #43 
  - NO. sorry, i didnt read all that but he is not turning into bush. Much in the same way that bill  La Lioness Priyanka   May-20-09 12:14 PM   #45 
  - Excellent Analysis! My sense is that if Obama is to prevail it is only if  Riverman   May-20-09 02:50 PM   #46 
  - Short answer: No  rpannier   May-20-09 05:52 PM   #47 

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