Bernardo de La Paz
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Fri Nov-21-08 12:03 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 12:04 PM by Bernardo de La Paz
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| -Why Liberals are Not Libertarians |
CrisisPapers |
Nov-19-08 09:55 AM |
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That's a journey I took as well. |
UnrepentantUnitarian |
Nov-19-08 10:00 AM |
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The comic book libertarian is immoral/amoral. In truth, freedom is highly moral. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 02:58 PM |
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If only the world were all libertarian AND moral........... |
erny |
Nov-21-08 09:35 AM |
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erny = Ernest Partridge? |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 10:42 AM |
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Good article, thanks for posting it. |
mgc1961 |
Nov-19-08 10:57 AM |
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Excellent. I'm sending this to some Libertarian friends. |
IMModerate |
Nov-19-08 12:10 PM |
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There was a brief time about eight or nine years ago |
Downtown Hound |
Nov-19-08 01:15 PM |
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You set up a strawman and knocked it over. Your charicature is ludicrous and useless. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 02:53 PM |
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You post the same thing repeatedly |
Downtown Hound |
Nov-19-08 04:09 PM |
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Would libertarians let me develop my own nuclear arsenal? |
DUlover2909 |
Nov-21-08 07:05 AM |
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I'm sending this to my libertarian uncle... |
arikara |
Nov-19-08 01:26 PM |
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Any article that exposes Libertarianism's silliness deserves a K&R |
Chulanowa |
Nov-19-08 01:39 PM |
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You set up a strawman and knocked it over. Your charicature is ludicrous and useless. . . nt |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 02:52 PM |
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You post the same thing repeatedly |
Downtown Hound |
Nov-19-08 04:10 PM |
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I'm guessing that either you know little of libertarians, or you fancy yourself one |
Chulanowa |
Nov-19-08 07:18 PM |
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Not just selfishness, but arrogance |
skepticscott |
Nov-19-08 08:51 PM |
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Always reminds me of this: |
Chulanowa |
Nov-20-08 01:48 PM |
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Sorry, I'm not going to argue with absolutists who see only black and white. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 12:19 AM |
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American politics is a duopoly, sheer idiocy. Politics has at least two dimensions & 4 quadrants |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 02:17 PM |
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Enlightenment is the key. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 02:25 PM |
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Yup. Enlightenment. Everyone. THAT'S gonna happen, alright. Right about next Wednesday. |
TygrBright |
Nov-20-08 07:40 PM |
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If you really want debate, respect your opponent & stop cheap 3rd grade nonsense like "Libbie". |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 10:20 AM |
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'Scuse me. Where did I say (write) "hopelessly naive?" |
TygrBright |
Nov-21-08 11:58 AM |
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Post #30. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 12:03 PM |
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Thanks! Time for a reading comp refresher course, indeed. n/t |
TygrBright |
Nov-21-08 12:36 PM |
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The only ones truly free in a Libertarian utopia are the ones with the most money. |
hangman86 |
Nov-19-08 03:25 PM |
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Nonsense. 1) Truly free are free anywhere. 2) Libertarianism is not an absence of laws or morals. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-19-08 03:37 PM |
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Alright so explain |
hangman86 |
Nov-19-08 03:46 PM |
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Libertarians are great at moving the goal posts when they're challenged |
skepticscott |
Nov-19-08 03:59 PM |
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Another absolutist sets up a strawman. Not all liberals are maoist communists either. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 12:22 AM |
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I asked you |
skepticscott |
Nov-21-08 05:22 AM |
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I will not be defined by you or any party. You are adding absolutist junk to what others write. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 11:15 AM |
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Now who's setting up straw men? |
skepticscott |
Nov-22-08 11:39 AM |
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The only functions of government that Libertarians like are the ones that |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-08 11:46 AM |
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Excellent essay. Thom Hartmann has also presented this great argument. |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-19-08 03:38 PM |
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I only got halfway through it, but it's probably the single most important article |
The Backlash Cometh |
Nov-19-08 05:01 PM |
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Perhaps one of the best proofs |
skepticscott |
Nov-19-08 06:23 PM |
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Actually, some of them got away with some pretty outlandish things. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Nov-20-08 06:53 AM |
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I think Libertarians know that |
skepticscott |
Nov-20-08 04:41 PM |
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No proof at all, evidence for the opposite, because Bush is authoritarian = anti-libertarian. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Nov-21-08 12:26 AM |
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Libertarians are more like conservatives |
hyperdemocrat |
Nov-19-08 08:48 PM |
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Libertarians are republicans too embarassed to admit it |
comtec |
Nov-20-08 03:11 AM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Nov-20-08 01:01 AM |
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libertarians |
Locrian |
Nov-20-08 06:04 AM |
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