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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 02:25 PM
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8. Enlightenment is the key.
If everyone were enlightened, politics would be minimal and almost automatic. Studies would be done on any issue, and the facts found and the course of action would be almost always self-evident.

"Enlightened self-interest" is not an idle phrase and not to be dismissed lightly. The examples of antibiotics and the "tragedy of the commons" are good and are examples where government regulation performs a role in the absence of enlightenment and education.

The Republicans are anti-libertarian in many ways, despite paying lip service to the ideal. They are anti-science, for example. They aren't even proper conservatives because they don't conserve the environment.

It seems at times as if the Republicans are anti-education as well. So much the better for keeping the sheeple consuming pickup trucks and faux fur toilet seat covers and sports tickets and beer. So much easier to rule them with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD).

Get people educated, which means not just knowledge, but the ability to think analytically and to communicate clearly and effectively. Read my H.G. Wells quote in my tag line.
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  -Why Liberals are Not Libertarians CrisisPapers  Nov-19-08 09:55 AM   #0 
  - That's a journey I took as well.  UnrepentantUnitarian   Nov-19-08 10:00 AM   #1 
  - The comic book libertarian is immoral/amoral. In truth, freedom is highly moral.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 02:58 PM   #11 
     - If only the world were all libertarian AND moral...........  erny   Nov-21-08 09:35 AM   #36 
        - erny = Ernest Partridge?  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 10:42 AM   #38 
  - Good article, thanks for posting it.  mgc1961   Nov-19-08 10:57 AM   #2 
  - Excellent. I'm sending this to some Libertarian friends.  IMModerate   Nov-19-08 12:10 PM   #3 
  - There was a brief time about eight or nine years ago  Downtown Hound   Nov-19-08 01:15 PM   #4 
  - You set up a strawman and knocked it over. Your charicature is ludicrous and useless.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 02:53 PM   #10 
  - You post the same thing repeatedly  Downtown Hound   Nov-19-08 04:09 PM   #17 
  - Would libertarians let me develop my own nuclear arsenal?  DUlover2909   Nov-21-08 07:05 AM   #35 
  - I'm sending this to my libertarian uncle...  arikara   Nov-19-08 01:26 PM   #5 
  - Any article that exposes Libertarianism's silliness deserves a K&R  Chulanowa   Nov-19-08 01:39 PM   #6 
  - You set up a strawman and knocked it over. Your charicature is ludicrous and useless. . . nt  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 02:52 PM   #9 
     - You post the same thing repeatedly  Downtown Hound   Nov-19-08 04:10 PM   #18 
     - I'm guessing that either you know little of libertarians, or you fancy yourself one  Chulanowa   Nov-19-08 07:18 PM   #21 
        - Not just selfishness, but arrogance  skepticscott   Nov-19-08 08:51 PM   #23 
        - Always reminds me of this:  Chulanowa   Nov-20-08 01:48 PM   #28 
        - Sorry, I'm not going to argue with absolutists who see only black and white.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 12:19 AM   #31 
  - American politics is a duopoly, sheer idiocy. Politics has at least two dimensions & 4 quadrants  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 02:17 PM   #7 
  - Enlightenment is the key.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 02:25 PM   #8 
  - Yup. Enlightenment. Everyone. THAT'S gonna happen, alright. Right about next Wednesday.  TygrBright   Nov-20-08 07:40 PM   #30 
     - If you really want debate, respect your opponent & stop cheap 3rd grade nonsense like "Libbie".  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 10:20 AM   #37 
        - 'Scuse me. Where did I say (write) "hopelessly naive?"  TygrBright   Nov-21-08 11:58 AM   #40 
           - Post #30.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 12:03 PM   #41 
              - Thanks! Time for a reading comp refresher course, indeed. n/t  TygrBright   Nov-21-08 12:36 PM   #42 
  - The only ones truly free in a Libertarian utopia are the ones with the most money.  hangman86   Nov-19-08 03:25 PM   #12 
  - Nonsense. 1) Truly free are free anywhere. 2) Libertarianism is not an absence of laws or morals.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-19-08 03:37 PM   #13 
     - Alright so explain  hangman86   Nov-19-08 03:46 PM   #15 
     - Libertarians are great at moving the goal posts when they're challenged  skepticscott   Nov-19-08 03:59 PM   #16 
     - Another absolutist sets up a strawman. Not all liberals are maoist communists either.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 12:22 AM   #32 
        - I asked you  skepticscott   Nov-21-08 05:22 AM   #34 
           - I will not be defined by you or any party. You are adding absolutist junk to what others write.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 11:15 AM   #39 
              - Now who's setting up straw men?  skepticscott   Nov-22-08 11:39 AM   #43 
     - The only functions of government that Libertarians like are the ones that  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-22-08 11:46 AM   #44 
  - Excellent essay. Thom Hartmann has also presented this great argument.  BrklynLiberal   Nov-19-08 03:38 PM   #14 
  - I only got halfway through it, but it's probably the single most important article  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-19-08 05:01 PM   #19 
  - Perhaps one of the best proofs  skepticscott   Nov-19-08 06:23 PM   #20 
     - Actually, some of them got away with some pretty outlandish things.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-20-08 06:53 AM   #27 
     - I think Libertarians know that  skepticscott   Nov-20-08 04:41 PM   #29 
     - No proof at all, evidence for the opposite, because Bush is authoritarian = anti-libertarian.  Bernardo de La Paz   Nov-21-08 12:26 AM   #33 
  - Libertarians are more like conservatives  hyperdemocrat   Nov-19-08 08:48 PM   #22 
  - Libertarians are republicans too embarassed to admit it  comtec   Nov-20-08 03:11 AM   #25 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Nov-20-08 01:01 AM   #24 
  - libertarians  Locrian   Nov-20-08 06:04 AM   #26 
 

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