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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:03 PM
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19. There are lots of strong viewpoints juxtaposed in this article
And yes some of them express views that some people find objectionable - others less so. I would encourage you to read the views in Chapter 8 of the Swedish scientist Antonio Lima-de-Faria on Autoevolution.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0807/S00077.htm#chapte...

This stuff is very interesting and based in science not new age spirtuality.

As for Lewontin don't you think he is a little bit too touchy in that interview - too quick to say in effect "there is nothing to see here - move on". My response to that interview is to think that Lewontin - a giant in the field - is remarkably nervous about discussing these issues for the same reason that everybody else finds them tricky. If the giants of the field can't even talk about whats going on publicly what hope for open scientific debate and public discussion.

So far as Myers is concerned - yes because of the religious right wing's influence on education in the US this area of discussion arouses strong view points. However name-calling and simply shutting your eyes to these scientific discoveries is in effect playing the very same game that "scientists" accuse the IDers of.

Moreover, and this is the nub of the point that Mazur is making, the traditionally held notion of random mutations accompanied by survival of the fittest - i.e. natural selction - is no longer the only place that the science is suggesting evolution comes from. The mechanisms of evolution are now considered to be considerably more complex and less gene-centered than they were. This is worthy of discussion.

But as the discussion in this thread indicates - the willingness of people to even entertain this discussion is very limited. And I think that prooves the point that Mazur makes. I.E. There are some vert interesting new ideas in the field of evolutionary science that deserve our attention.
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