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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:02 PM
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13. While there is much obfuscation on the issue....
We all know that Liarman is an AIPAC stooge as well as a Republic in sheep's clothing and ANY legislation he proposes is highly suspect. I would also venture to guess that Kyl has accepted much money from Big Oil and AIPAC (or some associated interest/"concerned citizens" BS front-group PACs (which should all be illegal)).

AIPAC represents the radical minority of Israeli nationalists and NOT the majority of Israeli citizens. We'd be doing all of the people of the M.E. a HUGE favor by removing AIPAC's influence from U.S. foreign policy and it's negative influence on the daily lives of everyone in the M.E.. Big Oil benefits from continued strife in the M.E., so AIPAC's aggressive agenda suits them just fine. Are these the groups we want setting U.S. foreign policy? The same groups Dick Cheney meets with in secret? The groups that have greatly influenced our disastrous foreign policy for the past seven years?

Why would Hillary vote "yes" on Kyl-Leiberman? Check out her donor list, her voting record, her association with the DLC and the pro-Israeli/pro-corporate policies of the previous Clinton WH. It's not about "hating," it's about personal responsibility, "standing on your record" and putting and abrupt end to the slide into fascism and total corporate control by electing non-corporate, responsible, educated, experienced adults into all the available seats for a desperately needed change.

The Presidential election shouldn't be a popularity contest, but if we insist on making it so, let's vote for ONE of the three candidates who supports us, the American people, our Constitution and the health of the economy over the interests of corporations, foreign governments and other donors/organizations who are fronts for those same interests.

This election is probably the most important in our history as a country and we need to stop fighting over who is the best candidate like a bunch of ignorant, prejudiced third-graders and start promoting the strengths of the candidates based on experience and voting record as well as the individuals and groups they choose to associate with and accept money from. The information is out there folks: Get the stars out of your eyes, educate yourself dispassionately and vote your own personal interest. If we win this one, along with a bunch of Congressional seats, politics in the U.S. will change for the better for a long time.
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