muriel_volestrangler
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Fri Jul-28-06 07:56 AM
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| 98. Strangely, I can find descriptions of God as both 'invisible' and 'friend' |
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in Christian hymns ("Immortal, Invisible, God only wise ..." and "What a friend we have in Jesus ..."). So I'm not quite sure why "invisible friend" is nasty. Maybe the letter writer couldn't bring herself to use the more insulting terms that others have noted in this thread.
Calling believers 'deluded' is impolite; but then so is the implication that, because there is 'real religion', there are one or more 'fake religions' too.
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| -How should I deal with nasty atheists? |
AuntiePinko |
Jul-27-06 01:11 PM |
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Jul-27-06 01:25 PM |
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Good analogy. |
augie38 |
Jul-27-06 01:53 PM |
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Bad Analogy |
southpaw |
Jul-27-06 02:43 PM |
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A better analogy; I was standing at the roulette |
pokercat999 |
Jul-27-06 05:33 PM |
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No further proof than your reply is needed. n/t |
shain from kane |
Jul-27-06 05:50 PM |
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You need to get off your high horse |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Jul-27-06 06:58 PM |
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Shain... |
southpaw |
Jul-28-06 08:14 AM |
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Jul-28-06 02:57 PM |
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Just as I expected... |
southpaw |
Jul-28-06 03:26 PM |
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All Ideaologies are open to criticism! |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-28-06 12:49 AM |
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Madalyn Murray O’Hair. She's the atheist they found dismembered right? |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 03:12 AM |
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O'Hair was killed for money |
shrike |
Jul-28-06 08:51 AM |
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Interesting conclusion, but wrong |
erknm |
Jul-28-06 11:45 AM |
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What the...??? |
Bette Noir |
Jul-27-06 02:47 PM |
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No further proof than your reply is needed. n/t |
shain from kane |
Jul-27-06 05:50 PM |
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Jul-27-06 05:25 PM |
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the only thing i could find that could possibly merit deletion was... |
jahyarain |
Jul-31-06 03:18 PM |
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Your analogy is the root of the problem |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-27-06 07:08 PM |
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It's a sign of his or her own weak faith, nothing more. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-28-06 12:45 AM |
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Um..thats a very prejudiced response |
Evoman |
Jul-27-06 09:32 PM |
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Untrue |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-27-06 11:36 PM |
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I do so love how people assume that all atheists |
Jamastiene |
Jul-28-06 03:25 AM |
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That's just it |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-28-06 03:44 AM |
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You know, I would rather prefer it if you were more polite. |
Random_Australian |
Jul-27-06 11:40 PM |
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Thanks for calling all atheists liars and murders. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 03:10 AM |
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Auntie Pinko, as a converted-atheist, I think there are some who would |
sinkingfeeling |
Jul-27-06 01:54 PM |
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oft-cited definition of 'faith' |
LanternWaste |
Jul-27-06 02:57 PM |
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But aren't you assuming there's something there to understand? |
jilln |
Jul-27-06 03:35 PM |
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Even a negative needs to be comprehended |
LanternWaste |
Jul-27-06 03:56 PM |
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Is it a negative, or just an "imaginary friend"? |
jilln |
Jul-27-06 04:17 PM |
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The OP agrees with you: "atheists believe there is nothing there to |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:47 PM |
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US v Seeger |
Hamlette |
Jul-28-06 12:40 AM |
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faith |
RealAle |
Jul-28-06 07:22 AM |
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welcome to DU! |
jahyarain |
Jul-28-06 05:05 PM |
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No faith |
cyborg_jim |
Jul-29-06 08:39 AM |
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Ummm, no |
goondogger |
Jul-27-06 04:03 PM |
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Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. |
valerief |
Jul-27-06 07:44 PM |
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Faith is borrowed from the outside. Trust, is something from within. |
dunn |
Jul-28-06 08:44 PM |
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Indeed, and it is time to move to something greater |
abester |
Jul-27-06 07:18 PM |
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She didn't say that atheism was a faith. She said that atheism was |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:27 PM |
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self-delete (dupe) |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:49 PM |
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Excellent ! |
RethugAssKicker |
Jul-27-06 02:10 PM |
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Perfect. |
whrab |
Jul-27-06 02:23 PM |
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There really is no excuse for rudeness either from |
anotheryellowdog |
Jul-27-06 02:50 PM |
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Auntie Pinko is The reason I joined DU |
galileo3000 |
Jul-27-06 03:41 PM |
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And where does this person encounter all those 'nasty' atheists? |
thecatburgler |
Jul-27-06 03:50 PM |
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I remember working for a woman who was appalled |
CrispyQGirl |
Jul-27-06 04:31 PM |
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I worked with her sister... |
LittleOne |
Jul-28-06 08:10 AM |
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In person occasionally |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-27-06 04:51 PM |
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It's not necessarily in blogs. I've known people first-hand... |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 05:56 PM |
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My own personal experience is that the obnoxious relilgious are all too |
TankLV |
Jul-27-06 08:27 PM |
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Certainly, there ARE many more obnoxious religious folks than there are |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 08:54 PM |
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And the religious right is larger than the religious left. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 06:35 AM |
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Exactly. |
PegDAC |
Jul-27-06 09:21 PM |
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Well, sometimes we run into nastiness right here at DU |
arnheim |
Jul-28-06 08:59 AM |
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You are of course right that your beliefs deserve tolerance... until |
jilln |
Jul-28-06 09:43 AM |
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Excellent points |
thecatburgler |
Jul-28-06 12:35 PM |
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Right, and I forgot to mention holidays... |
jilln |
Jul-28-06 03:48 PM |
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That is another irritation with me |
thecatburgler |
Jul-28-06 06:15 PM |
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HAHAHA! |
jilln |
Jul-28-06 09:43 PM |
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Oh, I agree. No one should force their religion on anyone |
arnheim |
Jul-28-06 02:28 PM |
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Great advice Auntie |
mayfire62 |
Jul-27-06 04:07 PM |
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I'm an agnostic -- but I have NEVER EVER met an atheist... |
byronius |
Jul-27-06 04:55 PM |
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"Atheists wouldn't ever do that" -- MY ASS!!! |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 06:13 PM |
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RE: "Atheists wouldn't ever do that" -- MY ASS!!! |
cyborg_jim |
Jul-27-06 06:52 PM |
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Nazis and Communists most certainly did kill in the name of non-belief |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 08:32 PM |
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Nazis were absolutely Christian. Communists definitely had beliefs. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 03:15 AM |
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Which nazis? |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 05:37 AM |
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On Nazism & Christianity from Wikipedia: |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 06:22 AM |
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You can't have it both ways... |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 07:03 AM |
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Well it's definitely true that states can create suffering w/o God. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 02:59 PM |
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Hitler's beliefs are complicated |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 07:53 AM |
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I think he was at least born and/or raised catholic... |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 08:09 AM |
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Isnt that Hypnosis? |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-28-06 01:02 AM |
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Actually, there are a couple more there -- |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-28-06 09:47 AM |
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Point sorta taken. However -- |
byronius |
Jul-27-06 06:53 PM |
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I loved your example of Al Gore -- |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 08:21 PM |
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Not the problem |
cyborg_jim |
Jul-29-06 08:25 AM |
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Another reason I liked your response.... |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 11:12 PM |
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I am sure there are athiests who are like that...... |
springhill |
Jul-28-06 01:33 AM |
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I agree. But they ARE out there! :) |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 05:40 AM |
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Couple things |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-27-06 07:13 PM |
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Couple things back at ya |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 08:47 PM |
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I would certainly agree |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-27-06 10:46 PM |
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Gott Mit Uns |
noobie2 |
Jul-27-06 09:29 PM |
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I'm a lapsed Lutheran and well aware that Brother Martin |
PurpleChez |
Jul-27-06 10:10 PM |
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I find it no different than what is happening today with Bush. |
noobie2 |
Jul-27-06 11:39 PM |
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Neither do I. As I typed the lines about nazis using a religion they |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 05:39 AM |
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Hey! |
markbark |
Jul-28-06 07:50 AM |
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Means nothing |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 07:57 AM |
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Always somebody has to pull out the Stalin card |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-27-06 11:44 PM |
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Actually, I agree completely... |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 07:05 AM |
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I think a Christian making those distinctions would be wrong |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-28-06 07:44 AM |
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as my "but..." might have suggested, I agree |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 08:07 AM |
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They'd be wrong |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 08:07 AM |
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Excellent Crusades info! Yowza. |
PurpleChez |
Jul-28-06 09:21 AM |
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It's my pet subject |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 09:27 AM |
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He did try to enforce atheism in the Soviet Union, though, |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-28-06 09:30 PM |
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The Nazis were praciticing Christians. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-28-06 01:55 AM |
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Hah! |
catbert836 |
Jul-28-06 04:04 PM |
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I've never met that kind of atheist in person, either, |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:30 PM |
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pnwmom, if you would not mind stirring the pot, I would like that. |
Random_Australian |
Jul-27-06 11:36 PM |
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They are out there |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 07:50 AM |
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Fear |
thecatburgler |
Jul-28-06 12:37 PM |
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NASTY ATHEISTS!!!! |
Demeter |
Jul-27-06 05:59 PM |
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The idea of an all powerful being; |
greiner3 |
Jul-27-06 06:15 PM |
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Speaking of dealing with something for the X,XXXth time |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-27-06 07:15 PM |
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Yep, that one always gets me, too.... |
Robeson |
Jul-27-06 07:29 PM |
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Absence of a belief system makes you an |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:44 PM |
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No, I was speaking of the word "atheist" in it's broadest sense... |
Robeson |
Jul-27-06 08:48 PM |
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Depends on your definition of atheism. |
pnwmom |
Jul-27-06 07:42 PM |
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Allow me to retort. |
Goblinmonger |
Jul-27-06 10:55 PM |
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Again, that's by your definition, which isn't universally accepted. |
pnwmom |
Jul-28-06 06:58 AM |
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I am atheist, but speak only for myself. |
raggedcompany |
Jul-27-06 08:34 PM |
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I couldn't believe how much god talk there was in my work place |
CrispyQGirl |
Jul-28-06 08:49 AM |
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I'm a Christian, and I'll say that I see more Christians being intolerant |
GOPBasher |
Jul-27-06 09:17 PM |
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The problem with religion... |
rambler_american |
Jul-27-06 09:33 PM |
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as an atheist myself |
noobie2 |
Jul-27-06 09:47 PM |
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Thanks Auntie Pinko! Rove pays trolls to visit DU and start flame wars |
TwentyFive |
Jul-27-06 09:49 PM |
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I don't think Rove is hiring atheists to come to DU. |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 03:36 AM |
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One problem, Auntie |
catbert836 |
Jul-27-06 09:53 PM |
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You're right |
p12psicop |
Jul-28-06 12:36 AM |
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athieism CAN be a belief |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 08:13 AM |
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Speaking as an atheist, I would flip those two definition. |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-28-06 10:17 AM |
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Fine |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 10:46 AM |
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Agree. |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-28-06 11:53 AM |
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Only if not believing in unicorns is the same level of belief |
WakingLife |
Jul-28-06 01:48 PM |
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I'm not saying they're the same LEVEL of belief |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 09:44 PM |
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Bravo. |
danhan |
Jul-27-06 09:58 PM |
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There is no such thing as an ethically privileged epistemology |
eridani |
Jul-28-06 01:54 AM |
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Reminds me of Badiou's book on Ethics. /nt |
readmoreoften |
Jul-28-06 03:18 AM |
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An interesting ramble, but |
Somawas |
Jul-28-06 06:45 AM |
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A question about fairy tales. |
WakingLife |
Jul-28-06 07:40 AM |
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I did a poll in the Religion and Theology forum trying to find the line |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-28-06 08:11 AM |
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Totally off-topic but... |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-28-06 08:27 AM |
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Strangely, I can find descriptions of God as both 'invisible' and 'friend' |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-28-06 07:56 AM |
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I have a question, too, Auntie. |
neebob |
Jul-28-06 09:19 AM |
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Interesting...I think that people should show respect for beliefs |
rasputin1952 |
Jul-29-06 07:49 AM |
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Hitler was reviving the ancient Germanic pagan religion |
raging moderate |
Jul-29-06 06:26 PM |
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Welcome to DU! If you want to look at things... |
rasputin1952 |
Jul-29-06 06:49 PM |
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