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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:48 PM
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68. Bull,They had a personal vendetta,They took aim at at least two of them.
Edited on Thu May-04-06 05:23 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
:hi: Yes,an active riot is a scary thing,but this was closer to harrassment than an active riot. The guards took aim at the ones who gave them the finger and harrassed them.The demonstrators were spread out and they were'nt in any danger,look at the picture before the shooting. They were mad because at another rally the wind blew the tear gas back at them. Why' were they armed with real bullets? Nixon,Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to put down any descent,to the war,just like now..They wanted to put the students in their place,so to speak.If you are fine with that ok, but then,that's not exactly what our troops are fighting and dying for. Did you know Cheney and Rumsfeld advised Ford to veto the Freedom of Information Act. Ford was over ruled on that. That's why everything Cheney does is behind closed doors.They wanted full power without congressional oversight,even back then,and look how they are screwing up now.Again,everything is covered up and swept under the rug. I grew up living with Vietnam and I can tell you this,at least we had Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite.There were peaceful sitins and protests again that war,acually right outside the white house. Nixon is responseable for the shooting. Nixon could not hide from protesters like the chickenhawks we have now.Today we have a bunch of bumbling idiots in the whitehouse,and they don't have to answer to anyone. Now they own the cowardly news media and are cracking down on Whisleblowers. This is an interesting article;If Past Is Prologue, George Bush Is Becoming An Increasingly Dangerous President
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20060421.html Also did you know Bush Met Privately With a Think Tank at Stanford University where he met privately with members of the Hoover Institution. The Hoover Institution is a think tank that has been aggressively promoting the viability of a preemptive military strike in Iran. There was a protest there,but I don't think many knew about it. A really good documentary,everyone should watch;This has other some histery in it.If we don't learn from the past we are bound to repeat it.. Loose Change' 2nd Edition. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51375819912882... This is dick cheney bio and documentary.Ascent to Power http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/dickcheney/ascent.html ; "best of'Why We Fight http://www.ifilm.com/player/?ifilmId=2687878&pg=default... "Why We Fight" movie clearly explains the reasons, starting with World War II right up to Iraq.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8494.ht... ... Worth going out of your way for this documentary. ...



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  - Ohio nat.guard  spag68   May-03-06 03:16 PM   #3 
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           - Bull,They had a personal vendetta,They took aim at at least two of them.  DianaForRussFeingold   May-04-06 04:48 PM   #68 
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