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Pentagon
1. Why no air defense? 2. How did a lousy pilot like Hani Hanjour pull off a 270 degree turn diving 7000 feet to hit a low building. 3. Why did the hijackers select the unoccupied wing of the Pentagon (where construction equipment was conspicuous) so that they killed 100 civilian construction workers and only 25 Pentagon personnel? 4. Norm Mineta said he saw Cheney in the White House bunker at 9:25 discussing the approach of an aircraft Mineta assumed was flight 77. Mineta's timeline is corroborated by Richard Clark. The 9/11 Commission insists that Cheney didn't get there until 9:58, though Cheney told Meet the Press that he got there much earlier. 5. F-16s that were scrambled from Langley might have reached Washington in time to stop flight 77, except they flew straight out to sea instead. The 9/11 Commission purports to explain this fact by telling us they were launched not to meet the flight 77 threat, but in response to false reports from the FAA that flight 11 was still in the air and headed for DC from the north. NORAD had said nothing about this phantom flight 11 during the three years it put out its timeline of events, and the 9/11 Commission can not identify the FAA person who made this report. 6. John Judge reports that he was told by a Pentagon employee that there were SAM missiles defending the building.
WTC
1. What brought down building 7? FDNY brass said structural damage, but their reports are mutually contradictory and apparently FEMA didn't regard them as credible when it made its report. FEMA couldn't explain the collapse mechanism, but said fire brought WTC7 down. Of course, the photos only show very wimpy fires. NIST seems to lean toward structural damage, but they have not delivered their final report which was due in December, and I understand they are going to outsource the project. 2. How did jet fuel or a gravity driven collapse turn the concrete to dust? 3. How do asymmetric fires and asymmetric structural damage cause a symmetrical collapse? 4. Why did the tower hit second fall first? Firemen radioing from the impact zone saw only a couple of isolated fires. Brian Clark walked down right through the impact floors and saw only a few flames. He stopped at 31 to make phone calls, and at the street he said "no way" could the towers fall. The fires in the south tower were going out when it fell. 5. Most of the jet fuel burned up in the fireballs outside the building. NIST says the jet fuel all burned off in ten minutes. NIST has not one piece of core steel showing heating above 250 degrees Centigrade. 6. Most structural engineers were surprised when the towers fell. 7. The molten metal was observed in the basement soon after the collapse, so the theory that the steel melted in some kind of charcoal cooker doesn't wash. 8. The FEMA/ASCE and NIST investigations have been shoddy. That the steel was recycled over the objections of family members, firemen, and Fire Engineering magazine is peculiar. That the blueprints remain a secret is peculiar. 9. The FEMA/ASCE Appendix C report found that its steel samples from both the WTC towers and WTC7 had been evaporated by a sulfidation attack that remains unexplained to this day except by Dr. Jones's thermate hypothesis. 10. Numerous witnesses reported explosions in the towers, including flashes of light from lower floors. 11. The counterargument that wiring the building with miles of detonation cord and thousands of explosive charges makes controlled demolition impractical is easily refuted by postulating use of radio-controlled charges, which could have been easily planted among the core columns in the elevator shafts after midnight using the elevator cars as movable staging. Dr. Van Romero, an explosives expert, said that a few charges in key places could have brought the towers down.
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| -The 9/11 Conspiracy: A Skeptic's View |
CrisisPapers |
Apr-25-06 03:41 PM |
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Bravo ..... thank you! |
BOHICA06 |
Apr-25-06 03:47 PM |
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Bravo! He said AA 77 was a 747!! Even though it was a 757!! Yip-ee!! |
file83 |
Apr-26-06 01:22 AM |
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Indeed. GREAT ESSAY, my foot. |
spooked911 |
Apr-26-06 06:31 AM |
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Apr-26-06 02:08 PM |
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Ah, well--that invalidates the whole thing then. |
smoogatz |
Apr-26-06 12:59 PM |
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Its much deeper then anyone can imagine |
Mrspeeker |
Apr-25-06 03:51 PM |
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Most people are LIHOP |
serryjw |
Apr-25-06 03:54 PM |
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Or why the jets were not scrambled immediately, |
colorado_ufo |
Apr-25-06 10:36 PM |
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Honestly I think they were not scambled |
serryjw |
Apr-25-06 10:53 PM |
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The Pentagon |
SpiralHawk |
Apr-25-06 04:00 PM |
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This does not make me angry at all...it is very interesting. |
judy |
Apr-25-06 04:01 PM |
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Well said. nt |
glitch |
Apr-25-06 07:26 PM |
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bushco blocking any investigation + then alloting very little $$ to the |
bobbieinok |
May-01-06 04:24 PM |
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look: buildings simply do NOT fall straight down |
ixion |
Apr-25-06 04:01 PM |
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Gravity Pulls... |
jberryhill |
Apr-25-06 06:44 PM |
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but doesn't usually cause buildings to collapse, |
rman |
Apr-25-06 07:18 PM |
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yeah, in a vacuum |
ixion |
Apr-25-06 08:14 PM |
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I see... so, uhmm... |
jberryhill |
Apr-27-06 11:24 AM |
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Apr-27-06 07:39 PM |
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That's an eight story building... |
jberryhill |
Apr-28-06 09:27 AM |
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The rotating top should have kept on rotating; |
petgoat |
Apr-28-06 11:05 AM |
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Not when the forward lower end hit the remaining part... |
jberryhill |
Apr-28-06 02:11 PM |
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It WOULD be interesting to model |
jberryhill |
Apr-29-06 02:59 PM |
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According to Dr. Thomas Eagar, the architect of the |
petgoat |
Apr-29-06 04:57 PM |
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The final banking maneuver... |
jberryhill |
Apr-29-06 08:51 PM |
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That's what I mean by "you'd expect to see" |
jberryhill |
Apr-30-06 08:04 PM |
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Ever flown a real aircraft? |
TrogL |
May-02-06 06:14 PM |
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"what do you need the planes for?" |
LiberalVoice |
May-02-06 08:49 AM |
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Yes, they do. |
MervinFerd |
Apr-26-06 12:34 PM |
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Not at FREE FALL speeds, sorry nice try. |
Twist_U_Up |
Apr-26-06 03:43 PM |
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Oops - posted in the wrong spot - sorry about that. |
Jazz2006 |
May-02-06 12:44 AM |
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None of the buildings fell at "free fall speed". Sorry, nice try. |
Jazz2006 |
May-02-06 12:56 AM |
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"That particular myth" comes from the Eagar and Musso paper |
petgoat |
May-02-06 11:08 PM |
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see my response to the other poster who thinks |
ixion |
Apr-26-06 04:21 PM |
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That's the problem with starting from a faulty premise. |
Jazz2006 |
May-02-06 12:52 AM |
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uh, yeah they did |
ixion |
May-18-06 06:05 PM |
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Okay... I'm still looking for the part where he's skeptical |
IanDB1 |
Apr-25-06 04:06 PM |
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I'm with you - not the best example of critical thinking. |
greyl |
Apr-30-06 09:27 PM |
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Agreed. There are huge glaring errors in the supposed 'skeptical' piece. |
Jazz2006 |
May-02-06 12:58 AM |
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Thank you for sharing. Where I went to school, we were |
petgoat |
May-03-06 01:11 AM |
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K&R for more discussion of this. |
The Witch |
Apr-25-06 04:07 PM |
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Valid points, good attitude. I usually am a skeptic myself. |
Notoverit |
Apr-25-06 04:17 PM |
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Okay, I'll add my two cents |
MissWaverly |
Apr-25-06 04:29 PM |
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Good point |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 11:57 AM |
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also, don't you think building 7 should have survived |
MissWaverly |
Apr-26-06 04:04 PM |
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what part of "gravity works" don't you understand? |
TrogL |
Apr-26-06 06:06 PM |
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Hello? |
LiberalVoice |
May-02-06 08:58 AM |
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even constructed a house of cards? |
TrogL |
May-02-06 06:10 PM |
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Ah, the "House of Cards" theory. Yes, in the 1970s, people |
petgoat |
May-02-06 06:49 PM |
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Oops, it's the WTC7 report that has been outsourced, not |
petgoat |
May-03-06 01:13 AM |
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yeah, well they used to build them like brick shithouses |
TrogL |
May-03-06 12:59 PM |
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The core was a brick shithouse. |
petgoat |
May-03-06 01:45 PM |
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House of cards? |
LiberalVoice |
May-02-06 09:48 PM |
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A fine, logical rebuttal |
TrogL |
May-03-06 01:37 PM |
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what do you mean by "struts"? And what do you mean by |
petgoat |
May-03-06 03:53 PM |
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A lot of people here share your broad skepticism |
leveymg |
Apr-25-06 04:34 PM |
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Rec'd before it hits the dungeon. |
hootinholler |
Apr-25-06 04:41 PM |
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You are correct, Hoot |
MissWaverly |
Apr-25-06 04:45 PM |
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Exactly |
LiberalVoice |
May-02-06 09:02 AM |
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I work for an airline... |
Turn CO Blue |
Apr-25-06 04:47 PM |
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How would the employees know what happened? If it hit Where are the pics? |
Vincardog |
Apr-25-06 05:00 PM |
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The employees who were at work that day... |
Turn CO Blue |
Apr-26-06 10:41 AM |
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Does that data come from the FAA? |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:02 PM |
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That data exists in SEVERAL formats through SEVERAL sources. |
Turn CO Blue |
Apr-26-06 12:47 PM |
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So, what did American Airline's employees know about wargames on 9-11? |
EVDebs |
Apr-26-06 01:24 PM |
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Nope |
MissWaverly |
Apr-25-06 05:21 PM |
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Wargames of 9-11 and FAA/Ptech involvements... |
EVDebs |
Apr-26-06 01:18 PM |
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What makes you think all employees would have to be in on it? |
rman |
Apr-27-06 10:24 AM |
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I'm a former airline employee as well |
MellowOne |
May-03-06 01:26 PM |
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Hey Crisis can you go as far as Glad It Happened? |
Vincardog |
Apr-25-06 04:58 PM |
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The official version is also a conspiracy theory |
GuvWurld |
Apr-25-06 05:01 PM |
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Perception of Reality |
petgoat |
Apr-25-06 05:11 PM |
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Thanks for the good read |
Sinti |
Apr-25-06 05:46 PM |
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Thanks Sinti. Also check out my new book, We Do Not Consent. |
GuvWurld |
Apr-25-06 05:53 PM |
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Damn straight. EOM |
K-W |
Apr-27-06 01:16 PM |
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A genuine, unbiased, and brutally honest investigation must be done |
Sinti |
Apr-25-06 05:07 PM |
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Everyone should be encourage to testify on tape |
MissWaverly |
Apr-25-06 06:18 PM |
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Thank You for a Thoughtful Essay |
petgoat |
Apr-25-06 05:07 PM |
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Why isn't this in the 9/11 forum where it belongs? |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-25-06 05:11 PM |
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Shhhhh... maybe they won't notice and send us to our rooms n/t |
Sinti |
Apr-25-06 05:18 PM |
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Answer |
Pissed Off Cabbie |
Apr-25-06 11:02 PM |
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The guy doesn't even get the most basic facts right... |
file83 |
Apr-26-06 01:30 AM |
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He's a straw man... |
Pissed Off Cabbie |
Apr-26-06 01:33 AM |
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It's a clever diversion |
Pissed Off Cabbie |
Apr-26-06 01:44 AM |
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Apr-26-06 12:52 PM |
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it attacks many criticisms of the official 9-11 story |
bobbieinok |
May-01-06 04:20 PM |
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I watched it happen... |
iamahaingttta |
Apr-25-06 05:25 PM |
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mystery planes |
MissWaverly |
Apr-25-06 06:07 PM |
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So are you saying Islamic terrorists used explosives to |
petgoat |
Apr-25-06 06:32 PM |
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Okay, and then FEMA and NIST are covering up the |
petgoat |
Apr-25-06 06:52 PM |
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Sorry... |
iamahaingttta |
Apr-26-06 06:44 AM |
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Thanks for trying. I saw your answer. I'm surprised that they |
petgoat |
Apr-26-06 01:41 PM |
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Actually, that's more plausible than a Gov't agency. |
MervinFerd |
Apr-26-06 03:45 PM |
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Well the bombing of the Oklahoma federal building was |
MissWaverly |
Apr-26-06 04:17 PM |
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NIST doesn't buy the pancake theory either. |
petgoat |
Apr-26-06 01:45 PM |
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it's on its way to my house |
MissWaverly |
Apr-26-06 04:11 PM |
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The people who made it |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 10:46 PM |
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Well, that's a good thing then |
MissWaverly |
Apr-27-06 04:35 PM |
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Apr-28-06 03:28 PM |
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Fallacy of the undivided middle |
TrogL |
Apr-27-06 01:04 PM |
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Many thanks for an excellent dispassionate analysis. |
scarletwoman |
Apr-25-06 05:59 PM |
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If only for the lack of a single conclusive official explanation |
rman |
Apr-25-06 07:27 PM |
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Thank you Mr. Partridge. |
Independent_Liberal |
Apr-25-06 10:46 PM |
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The single, loudest alarm bell for me, weeks after it happened, was |
Catrina |
Apr-25-06 11:24 PM |
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good post, Catrina! |
mimitabby |
Apr-26-06 03:24 PM |
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What Catrina said |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-01-06 12:10 AM |
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thank you very much |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-25-06 11:35 PM |
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You have made an assumption which may not be true: |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 01:41 AM |
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to carry out such grand conspiracies as some are suggesting |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-26-06 02:35 AM |
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Again, your assumption. |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 03:00 AM |
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Compartmentalized, like the mafia and the army |
rman |
Apr-26-06 05:13 AM |
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You don't even need a stand-down order. Just disrupt the |
petgoat |
Apr-26-06 02:19 PM |
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wtc |
dajudem |
Apr-26-06 12:06 AM |
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Twist_U_Up |
Apr-26-06 04:45 AM |
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Thanks, twist-you-up. |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 09:47 AM |
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Edit: |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 09:46 AM |
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as a matter of fact I have looked... |
dajudem |
Apr-26-06 03:05 PM |
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Well first we could start with a real investigation. |
Twist_U_Up |
Apr-26-06 03:39 PM |
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Good grief. |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 07:14 PM |
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Skeptic, eh? Flight AA 77 was a Boeing 757, not a 747. |
file83 |
Apr-26-06 01:17 AM |
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I won't refute all of your points, although all are easily refutable . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Apr-26-06 02:04 AM |
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Did you notice how he got the model of the plane for AA 77 wrong? |
file83 |
Apr-26-06 03:34 AM |
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what a joke |
Twist_U_Up |
Apr-26-06 04:21 AM |
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Thanks for Posting the Family Members' Questions |
petgoat |
Apr-26-06 02:26 PM |
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mirandapriestly |
Apr-26-06 08:59 PM |
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I theorize a conspiracy on a conspiracy theory. (CoCT) |
Festivito |
Apr-26-06 06:46 AM |
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If the the WTC fell because of controlled demolition |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:25 PM |
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It takes about a week to rig a building to fall w/demolitions into its |
EVDebs |
Apr-26-06 12:45 PM |
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Yup. |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:50 PM |
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WTC7 and other blgs insurer is suing |
EVDebs |
Apr-26-06 01:08 PM |
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Didn't the insurer lose that case? |
Jazz2006 |
May-02-06 12:49 AM |
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Lucky for the perpetrators... |
LiberalVoice |
May-02-06 09:18 AM |
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Where do you get your estimate? |
petgoat |
May-02-06 06:54 PM |
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You're playing right into the hands of those who did this to us. |
Festivito |
Apr-26-06 01:11 PM |
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iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:20 PM |
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Very important point - this is emphasized by Michael Ruppert |
pberq |
May-03-06 03:56 PM |
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eridani |
Apr-26-06 08:16 AM |
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What? |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:21 PM |
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Covert Controlled Demolition |
rman |
Apr-26-06 12:33 PM |
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Yes, WTC 7 is where skeptics and questioners should devote effort |
eridani |
Apr-27-06 03:34 AM |
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Apr-26-06 10:24 AM |
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CrisisPapers, your doubts hinge upon the radar screens and wargames |
EVDebs |
Apr-26-06 11:19 AM |
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Tell me its satire; cold fusion dork is the "most credible" critic? |
patcox2 |
Apr-26-06 11:41 AM |
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He's not the cold fusion Laughingstock |
iconoclastNYC |
Apr-26-06 12:18 PM |
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Thanks---but not quite skeptical enough...... |
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Apr-26-06 12:32 PM |
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petgoat |
Apr-26-06 02:33 PM |
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It burned. And it didn't fall UP |
MervinFerd |
Apr-26-06 09:50 PM |
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"Assumes Facts not in Evidence" is some lawyer talk I picked |
petgoat |
Apr-26-06 11:14 PM |
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"it burned" vs "there were fires on a few floors" |
rman |
Apr-27-06 11:10 AM |
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The Meridian Building... |
jberryhill |
Apr-29-06 03:07 PM |
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Torn down is not collapse. |
petgoat |
May-03-06 03:49 AM |
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Nobody knows why WTC7 fell - only FEMA studied it and they can't explain |
rman |
Apr-27-06 11:08 AM |
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A strange Conspiracy Theory....Quote FEMA! |
MervinFerd |
Apr-27-06 10:27 PM |
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I didn't say FEMA suggests CT |
rman |
Apr-28-06 04:46 AM |
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You are forgetting the rule of logic to be applied here... |
jberryhill |
Apr-28-06 09:35 AM |
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"If you cannot explain...then the answer has to be..." |
petgoat |
Apr-28-06 11:16 AM |
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YES! The Conspiracist Prime Directive. |
MervinFerd |
Apr-29-06 06:11 PM |
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What proves the coverup is the coverup. |
petgoat |
Apr-29-06 10:01 PM |
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If the hijackers are still alive, who flew the planes???? |
MervinFerd |
May-01-06 09:05 AM |
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"Logic, Mr. Goat." |
petgoat |
May-01-06 11:08 AM |
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I'm inclined to agree with much of what you say. |
smoogatz |
Apr-26-06 01:31 PM |
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MissWaverly |
Apr-26-06 09:07 PM |
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Funny, I never once thought about the fact that those planes were not |
itzamirakul |
Apr-27-06 12:25 PM |
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Flight 11 came down the Hudson, flying right over the Indian |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 12:33 PM |
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yes, but these individuals could barely fly cessnas |
MissWaverly |
Apr-27-06 04:33 PM |
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It was a beautiful, cloudless morning... |
jberryhill |
Apr-30-06 12:24 AM |
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interesting maybe so, but how did they get from where they |
MissWaverly |
Apr-27-06 04:28 PM |
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Most of the questions could be answered tomorrow. |
gordianot |
Apr-26-06 02:58 PM |
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What conspiracy theory is complete without |
dajudem |
Apr-26-06 03:10 PM |
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I don't believe this issue... |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
Apr-26-06 04:16 PM |
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Excelent reply. |
Beam Me Up |
Apr-26-06 07:17 PM |
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There are many questions and few actual answers. |
gordianot |
Apr-26-06 08:25 PM |
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U.S. To Keep Evidence From Families |
Bushwick Bill |
Apr-26-06 08:18 PM |
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Wishful thinking. |
dailykoff |
Apr-26-06 09:21 PM |
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Frankly, I wish the conspiracy theory worldview was true |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-26-06 11:28 PM |
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So let's see, there are no conspiracies. |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 12:11 AM |
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obviously I did not say that |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-27-06 01:52 AM |
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The 9/11 conspiracy is not that al Qaeda attacked. |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 02:07 AM |
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So.......You don't REALLY think..... |
MervinFerd |
Apr-27-06 01:26 PM |
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I never said any of that Straw Man stuff. nt |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 01:57 PM |
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Will you go to the 9/11 Forum and denounce it? nt |
MervinFerd |
Apr-27-06 03:53 PM |
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No, and here's why. Unlike you, I won't pan a book I've never |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 04:47 PM |
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So, conspiracies exist but we should not theorize about them? |
rman |
Apr-27-06 07:14 AM |
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by all means theorize to your heats content |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-27-06 10:29 AM |
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"They are attractive because they simplify problems |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 10:38 AM |
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Tell me, what are the underlying causes of resentment against America |
rman |
Apr-27-06 11:01 AM |
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I absolutely agree they should be exposed |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-27-06 06:31 PM |
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I know it goes back a lot further - doesn't mean it's not conspiracy, |
rman |
Apr-28-06 04:48 AM |
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a letter from Howard Zinn |
reorg |
Apr-27-06 04:29 AM |
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Griffin's book The New Pearl Harbor can be read (and downloaded) online |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 10:30 AM |
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David Hume: "On miracles" |
MervinFerd |
Apr-26-06 10:29 PM |
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Apr-27-06 12:06 AM |
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David Hume, Miracles, and Conspiracies |
Ernest Partridge |
Apr-27-06 10:41 AM |
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Problems with the OV of Pentagon and WTC |
petgoat |
Apr-27-06 12:23 PM |
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Yes. |
dailykoff |
Apr-27-06 12:44 PM |
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This type of Hamletic soliloquizing |
dailykoff |
Apr-27-06 12:43 PM |
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And this is what is so frightening... |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
Apr-27-06 02:21 PM |
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A (Paranoid) Conspiracy Theory, in common usage, IS.... |
MervinFerd |
Apr-27-06 02:25 PM |
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Apr-27-06 03:31 PM |
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OK, WTC7 was only well done...... |
MervinFerd |
Apr-27-06 03:48 PM |
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I do not believe I heard anyone say it was a Jewish conspiracy |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-28-06 12:02 AM |
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You are right. |
MervinFerd |
Apr-29-06 06:08 PM |
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unfortunately I see your point on this |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-29-06 07:45 PM |
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Hofstadter--The paranoid style in American Politics |
MervinFerd |
Apr-29-06 10:39 PM |
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You are quite desperate in trying to include "Invisible Jewish Elves" |
rman |
Apr-28-06 04:58 AM |
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Trying to link 9/11 skepticism with anti-semitism, to be precise. nt |
petgoat |
May-03-06 03:57 AM |
#253 |
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Black helicopters |
Lydia Leftcoast |
May-01-06 12:22 AM |
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Some additional thoughts.... |
MervinFerd |
Apr-29-06 06:41 PM |
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"we WERE attacked by insane religious thugs" |
petgoat |
Apr-29-06 09:50 PM |
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Yes, we WERE attacked by Fanatics. Get over it. |
MervinFerd |
Apr-29-06 10:55 PM |
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"we WERE attacked by Fanatics. Get over it. LOGIC! MR. GOAT!" |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 11:25 AM |
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Investigations of disasters are always embarrassing.... |
MervinFerd |
May-01-06 09:21 AM |
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Investigations of disasters |
petgoat |
May-01-06 12:37 PM |
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Apr-27-06 08:48 PM |
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I will take issue with the statement that the attack on the Pentagon is |
Time for change |
Apr-28-06 12:32 PM |
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WaPo says 77 disappeared from radar |
petgoat |
Apr-28-06 02:31 PM |
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Yes, I agree that Mineta's testimony would tend to support the fact |
Time for change |
Apr-28-06 02:39 PM |
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this still baffles me |
dmoded |
Apr-29-06 12:13 PM |
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Al Qaeda was a joint project of the CIA and the Saudis, created |
petgoat |
Apr-29-06 09:32 PM |
#188 |
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thanks for the welcome |
dmoded |
Apr-30-06 07:33 AM |
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Apr-30-06 12:50 PM |
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A theologian???? |
TrogL |
Apr-30-06 01:01 PM |
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How about some of these other people |
TrogL |
Apr-30-06 02:44 PM |
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Dr. Van Romero of New Mexico Tech is an expert in |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 06:48 PM |
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Jesus fucking christ! |
greyl |
Apr-30-06 09:30 PM |
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Thank you for sharing. nt |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 09:57 PM |
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Is that supposed to be an argument? nt |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 11:58 PM |
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No, commentary because of your continuous use of Van Romero |
greyl |
May-01-06 10:37 PM |
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My use of the Van Romero quotes is in no way misleading. |
petgoat |
May-02-06 01:18 AM |
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It's subtle but meaningful. |
greyl |
May-02-06 10:10 AM |
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"Dr. Van Romero's current opinion" |
petgoat |
May-02-06 06:18 PM |
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self-delete |
petgoat |
May-02-06 01:21 AM |
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New Orleans Was Destroyed by a Locomotive |
jberryhill |
Apr-30-06 08:08 PM |
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The news reports at the time said again and again that FDNY |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 10:04 PM |
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I have no doubt that they heard all sorts of things |
jberryhill |
Apr-30-06 10:33 PM |
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Can you suggest a mechanism by which the concrete floors are |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 11:57 PM |
#213 |
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No |
jberryhill |
May-01-06 11:29 AM |
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Nice Straw Man. Eyewitness testimony is only consistent with, |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 11:56 PM |
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Apr-30-06 07:14 PM |
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He could sell Cold Fusion, too.....nt |
MervinFerd |
Apr-30-06 09:24 PM |
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He wasn't selling Cold Fusion, he was investigating it. It was |
petgoat |
Apr-30-06 10:07 PM |
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Oh........nt |
MervinFerd |
Apr-30-06 10:23 PM |
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Hunter would kick your ass |
greyl |
Apr-30-06 11:58 PM |
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Thank you for sharing. Is that supposed to be an argument? nt |
petgoat |
May-01-06 12:58 AM |
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It's a summation. nt |
greyl |
May-01-06 07:25 AM |
#219 |
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You invoke a dead man to kick my physical ass since you can't |
petgoat |
May-01-06 12:40 PM |
#225 |
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No, I'm sticking up for a dead man |
greyl |
May-02-06 10:54 AM |
#241 |
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I've debunked the Roberts story myself, here and elsewhere, |
petgoat |
May-02-06 06:05 PM |
#242 |
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The TERRIBLE problem of Cow Abductions----You laugh! But it's REAL |
MervinFerd |
May-03-06 05:17 PM |
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I know it's real. It's called "rustling". |
petgoat |
May-12-06 01:13 AM |
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Ernest, here is a critique of your piece... |
reprehensor |
May-04-06 12:32 PM |
#261 |
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Kick and another rebuttal. |
Bushwick Bill |
May-11-06 09:41 PM |
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You didn't have to do what you did |
blogbart |
May-11-06 10:13 PM |
#263 |
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Sorry. |
Bushwick Bill |
May-11-06 10:44 PM |
#264 |
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Oh no apology please! |
blogbart |
May-18-06 12:45 PM |
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I wish Sibel Edmonds could tell us what she knows. |
wiggs |
May-19-06 12:37 PM |
#268 |