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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 10:26 AM
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36. It is inevitable - we will go to Universal Health Insurance
Single payer, 100% coverage, universal health insurance -- and it will happen as soon as we have a Democratic President, a Democratic Senate, a Democratic House - and GM goes into Chapter XI.

And, don't believe the bull about "Single Payer sucks in Canada" - that's a political decision that the Canadians have made to "ration." Read the facts - and do your own research

GO TO http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi


and search on

"Woolhandler" and/or "Himmelstein"


You will get real numbers - and you will see that Frist, Santorum, and Gingrich lie like rugs.

I welcome it - but then again, I've been a Democrat all of my life, and I had Len Rapping (the AFL-CIO United Steelworkers Labor Economist) for Labor Economics in college.
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  -Taxpayer alert: Obama sells soul to GM at your expense.. MrTriumph  Mar-09-06 09:34 AM   #0 
  - Or we could mandate fuel efficiency targets  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 09:35 AM   #1 
  - Who's title is this? Yours or the authors?  DS1   Mar-09-06 09:37 AM   #2 
  - Amen  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 09:37 AM   #4 
  - Those were promises made by GM, not the US government  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 09:43 AM   #8 
  - So a National Healthcare plan is completely out of the question for you  DS1   Mar-09-06 09:56 AM   # 
     - No, but not implemented for one group of retirees only  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 01:50 PM   #48 
  - i don't have a problem with it either  still_one   Mar-09-06 09:44 AM   #9 
  - This is a bad precedent  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 09:53 AM   #15 
  - So workers who made unenvironmental equipment in the past shouldn't  DS1   Mar-09-06 09:57 AM   #18 
     - not at all  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 10:03 AM   #23 
        - We're gonna foot the bill anyways  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 10:07 AM   #27 
           - What about GM assets?  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 10:10 AM   #30 
           - that's a weak argument  400Years   Mar-09-06 10:31 AM   #37 
  - only that their leadership has fought efficiency tooth and nail  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 09:56 AM   #17 
     - thank you  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 09:59 AM   #20 
     - bingo.  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 10:04 AM   #24 
     - Look. GM totally fucking sucks dog balls and makes shit cars  DS1   Mar-09-06 10:06 AM   #26 
     - Do a "Let your mouse do the walking" experiment  Coastie for Truth   Mar-09-06 10:17 AM   #32 
        - won't argue with your conclusion, in fact we agree.  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 10:31 AM   #38 
           - good info  wtmusic   Mar-09-06 10:34 AM   #40 
           - no, I just read too much stuff that sticks in my head.  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 10:52 AM   #43 
           - I was part of the vendor community floatsam and jettison  Coastie for Truth   Mar-09-06 10:40 AM   #41 
  - Yeah and?  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 09:37 AM   #3 
  - How's that a loan? That money is never to be repaid. It is a bailout.  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 09:46 AM   #10 
     - The 'loan' is the fact that we get more fuel efficient cars  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 09:50 AM   #12 
        - Since payback is not required, can I borrow $100 from you?  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 01:54 PM   #50 
  - He wants to jump start the Big Three in making fuel efficient cars  Pirate Smile   Mar-09-06 09:39 AM   #5 
  - Oh, cry me a river. GM's retiree benefits are NOT OUR PROBLEM  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 09:49 AM   #11 
     - Yes they FUCKING ARE!  DS1   Mar-09-06 09:59 AM   #19 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-09-06 10:00 AM   #21 
  - Obama- No BAILOUT for GM!  MrTriumph   Mar-09-06 09:40 AM   #6 
  - Oh goodie, so our tax dollars will still pay for these people  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 09:52 AM   #14 
     - What, our capitalistic system only applies when things are good?  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 10:01 AM   #22 
        - Well they will if we don't try something like the Obama plan  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 10:05 AM   #25 
        - So we're paying either way, so if we look at it your way, we're getting  DS1   Mar-09-06 10:07 AM   #29 
           - but you presume that money will be used wisely. THIS IS GM we are talking  antifaschits   Mar-09-06 10:15 AM   #31 
              - Either way, we're spending the money  DS1   Mar-09-06 10:24 AM   #34 
              - If we give the money in condition that the pensions be saved  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 11:54 AM   #44 
  - How about no, and we mandate the increases anyway?  truebrit71   Mar-09-06 09:41 AM   #7 
  - Tax payers are going to pay for these people anyways  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 09:54 AM   #16 
     - Why not help people directly instead of giving our tax dollars to GM?  400Years   Mar-09-06 10:23 AM   #33 
        - that's what we're doing  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 10:25 AM   #35 
           - just raise the standards, it's much cheaper  400Years   Mar-09-06 10:33 AM   #39 
              - But we should pay then for all those people  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 11:55 AM   #45 
                 - Giving tax dollars to corproate fat cats ain't helping the working class  400Years   Mar-09-06 12:51 PM   #46 
                    - Why are you even here posting?  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 01:20 PM   #47 
                       - You think corporate extortion is helping the working class? LOL!!!  400Years   Mar-09-06 01:51 PM   #49 
                          - Oh, please, get over yourself. If I say 'black', you say 'white'  LynneSin   Mar-09-06 01:58 PM   #51 
                             - quitting acting like a little baby  400Years   Mar-09-06 02:11 PM   #52 
  - MrTriumph:  unhappycamper   Mar-09-06 09:51 AM   #13 
  - Got a link? We need single payer fee for service health care and cafe  John Q. Citizen   Mar-09-06 10:07 AM   #28 
  - Link to article in Philadelphia Inquirer  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-09-06 10:51 AM   #42 
  - It is inevitable - we will go to Universal Health Insurance  Coastie for Truth   Mar-09-06 10:26 AM   #36 
  - Locking  unhappycamper   Mar-09-06 02:34 PM   #53 
 

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