LynneSin
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Thu Mar-09-06 09:37 AM
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Basically we're giving a 'loan' to GM in order to get better fuel efficiency cars so in the long run we're all winners.
Personally I like this. These people were promised a pension and if we can dangle the carrot to help get better cars other than things like the Hummer & the Escalade then I'm all for it.
And selling his soul? Oh, right, yeah, people aren't suppose to help the little folks. I mean, Biden & Carper support the Bankerupcy bill because they in bed with the banks. No one actually considered that about half of their state either works for one of those banks or is related to someone who does.
Good proposal Obama, I like it!
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| -Taxpayer alert: Obama sells soul to GM at your expense.. |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 09:34 AM |
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Or we could mandate fuel efficiency targets |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 09:35 AM |
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Who's title is this? Yours or the authors? |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 09:37 AM |
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Amen |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 09:37 AM |
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Those were promises made by GM, not the US government |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 09:43 AM |
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So a National Healthcare plan is completely out of the question for you |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 09:56 AM |
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No, but not implemented for one group of retirees only |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 01:50 PM |
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i don't have a problem with it either |
still_one |
Mar-09-06 09:44 AM |
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This is a bad precedent |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 09:53 AM |
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So workers who made unenvironmental equipment in the past shouldn't |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 09:57 AM |
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not at all |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 10:03 AM |
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We're gonna foot the bill anyways |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 10:07 AM |
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What about GM assets? |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 10:10 AM |
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that's a weak argument |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 10:31 AM |
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only that their leadership has fought efficiency tooth and nail |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 09:56 AM |
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thank you |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 09:59 AM |
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bingo. |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 10:04 AM |
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Look. GM totally fucking sucks dog balls and makes shit cars |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 10:06 AM |
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Do a "Let your mouse do the walking" experiment |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-09-06 10:17 AM |
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won't argue with your conclusion, in fact we agree. |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 10:31 AM |
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good info |
wtmusic |
Mar-09-06 10:34 AM |
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no, I just read too much stuff that sticks in my head. |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 10:52 AM |
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I was part of the vendor community floatsam and jettison |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-09-06 10:40 AM |
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Yeah and? |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 09:37 AM |
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How's that a loan? That money is never to be repaid. It is a bailout. |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 09:46 AM |
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The 'loan' is the fact that we get more fuel efficient cars |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 09:50 AM |
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Since payback is not required, can I borrow $100 from you? |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 01:54 PM |
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He wants to jump start the Big Three in making fuel efficient cars |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-09-06 09:39 AM |
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Oh, cry me a river. GM's retiree benefits are NOT OUR PROBLEM |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 09:49 AM |
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Yes they FUCKING ARE! |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 09:59 AM |
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Mar-09-06 10:00 AM |
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Obama- No BAILOUT for GM! |
MrTriumph |
Mar-09-06 09:40 AM |
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Oh goodie, so our tax dollars will still pay for these people |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 09:52 AM |
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What, our capitalistic system only applies when things are good? |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 10:01 AM |
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Well they will if we don't try something like the Obama plan |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 10:05 AM |
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So we're paying either way, so if we look at it your way, we're getting |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 10:07 AM |
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but you presume that money will be used wisely. THIS IS GM we are talking |
antifaschits |
Mar-09-06 10:15 AM |
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Either way, we're spending the money |
DS1 |
Mar-09-06 10:24 AM |
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If we give the money in condition that the pensions be saved |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 11:54 AM |
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How about no, and we mandate the increases anyway? |
truebrit71 |
Mar-09-06 09:41 AM |
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Tax payers are going to pay for these people anyways |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 09:54 AM |
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Why not help people directly instead of giving our tax dollars to GM? |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 10:23 AM |
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that's what we're doing |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 10:25 AM |
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just raise the standards, it's much cheaper |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 10:33 AM |
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But we should pay then for all those people |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 11:55 AM |
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Giving tax dollars to corproate fat cats ain't helping the working class |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 12:51 PM |
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Why are you even here posting? |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 01:20 PM |
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You think corporate extortion is helping the working class? LOL!!! |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 01:51 PM |
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Oh, please, get over yourself. If I say 'black', you say 'white' |
LynneSin |
Mar-09-06 01:58 PM |
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quitting acting like a little baby |
400Years |
Mar-09-06 02:11 PM |
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MrTriumph: |
unhappycamper |
Mar-09-06 09:51 AM |
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Got a link? We need single payer fee for service health care and cafe |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-09-06 10:07 AM |
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Link to article in Philadelphia Inquirer |
muriel_volestrangler |
Mar-09-06 10:51 AM |
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It is inevitable - we will go to Universal Health Insurance |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-09-06 10:26 AM |
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Locking |
unhappycamper |
Mar-09-06 02:34 PM |
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