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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:50 PM
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3. I respectfully disagree.
I have been saying this same thing since 1993, before the 1994 debacle. Our side is rudderless. We have voices all over the political map and no unified positions. We rarely have any issues that ALL (or even a big majority of) Democrats will go to the mat for no matter the politics of the situation. Our opponents aren't like us in many respects and this is a prime example. They virtually always follow the party line--and they have a party line.

We can't say that Democrats stand for this or that position, because as sure as the sun rises in the East, there will be a Miller, Lieberman, Koch, or even a Clinton, saying well maybe not. We are the gang that can't shoot straight. We look like we don't stand for anything. We look weak and indecisive as a party.

Those of us who follow politics closely know the Democrats do stand for what is good about America. The general public doesn't see that. The right wing propaganda machine is merely reinforcing the perception of Democrats that has existed for a long time. That's why they always get traction with the "flip-flopper" charge.
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  -"Patrick Henry Democrats" (some advice from Digby to gain back respect) KoKo01  Dec-31-05 01:07 PM   #0 
  - Highlighting the core issues that define what it is to be an American.  MissMarple   Dec-31-05 01:16 PM   #1 
  - it's the framing, stupid  grasswire   Dec-31-05 01:17 PM   #2 
  - I respectfully disagree.  amBushed   Dec-31-05 01:50 PM   #3 
  - I'd like to see "Bribery and Extortion" of foreign Govt's for "Poltical  KoKo01   Dec-31-05 02:02 PM   #4 
  - tough  grasswire   Dec-31-05 05:41 PM   #7 
     - matter what folks say about "Reid's War Room" the message  KoKo01   Dec-31-05 07:25 PM   #11 
        - I don't think there's a strategist in the bunch, really.  grasswire   Jan-01-06 01:23 AM   #15 
  - the dems have a problem coming off as reTHUG-lite  bpilgrim   Dec-31-05 03:17 PM   #6 
  - Everyone nows that the best critics are reverant, respectful  Gonnabuymeagun   Dec-31-05 02:37 PM   #5 
  - I'd love to see a Dem equivalent of Mark Twain step up to the plate...  KoKo01   Dec-31-05 07:27 PM   #12 
  - I think the Dems are keeping the powder dry. I think you will see a  applegrove   Dec-31-05 05:57 PM   #8 
     - That's what they said about the Kerry campaign.  amBushed   Dec-31-05 07:00 PM   #9 
     - I think what they learnt from the Kerry campaign is that if you broadcast  applegrove   Dec-31-05 07:13 PM   #10 
     - Oldie DU'ers who joined up after "Selection 2000" were told Daschle was  KoKo01   Dec-31-05 07:34 PM   #13 
        - they set Kerry up with that vote on the military spending. Want that  applegrove   Dec-31-05 11:53 PM   #14 
           - They did not "set Kerry up." It was "calculated" by Kerry and Edwards  KoKo01   Jan-01-06 04:28 PM   #16 
              - Oh they looked like lost sheep at times. Not knowing when they would  applegrove   Jan-01-06 08:10 PM   #17 

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