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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #82
85. That may very well be true
but that doesn't mean that the US government is funding car bombs, killing Americans, or setting fire to buildings.
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  -Keep Cuba sanctions, Democratic presidential candidate Kerry says Osolomia  Sep-01-03 10:15 AM   #0 
  - Unilaterally my ass  OldSoldier   Sep-01-03 10:20 AM   #1 
  - So?  Muddleoftheroad   Sep-01-03 10:36 AM   #6 
  - The Sanction is Not Against Castro, Muddle - It's Against YOU!!!!  guajira   Sep-01-03 11:48 AM   #31 
     - Not against me  Muddleoftheroad   Sep-01-03 12:26 PM   #36 
     - and when any of these hypocrites  kenzee13   Sep-01-03 12:40 PM   #38 
        - Saudi Arabia  Muddleoftheroad   Sep-01-03 01:25 PM   #41 
           - That's flawed.  Zhade   Sep-03-03 09:04 PM   #201 
     - I Agree With Guajira: The Sanctions Are Against US Citizens  VogonGlory   Sep-01-03 05:26 PM   #86 
  - Kerry and Dean now off my list of candidate....  Kbowe   Sep-01-03 11:24 AM   #25 
  - Kerry has more..............  DumpGump   Sep-01-03 10:26 AM   #2 
  - Reinventing....  coralrf   Sep-01-03 05:31 PM   #87 
     - Thank you for an intelligent post.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:37 PM   #89 
     - Eye - openning critique - thanks  karmadogma   Sep-03-03 12:18 PM   #159 
        - Welcome to DU karmadogma!  Zhade   Sep-03-03 09:10 PM   #202 
  - Appeasment of Angry Cubans in Florida  bluestateguy   Sep-01-03 10:27 AM   #3 
  - Good Point...  MrPrax   Sep-01-03 11:01 AM   #15 
  - Where does Kucinich stand on this?  eablair3   Sep-01-03 10:28 AM   #4 
  - Does anyone have a list  Catch22Dem   Sep-01-03 10:34 AM   #5 
  - Here's a few.  TreasonousBastard   Sep-01-03 11:07 AM   #19 
  - This is so depressing  kenzee13   Sep-01-03 10:37 AM   #7 
  - Whoring to the Cuban vote in Florida  IndianaGreen   Sep-01-03 10:44 AM   #9 
     - Because anti-communism and homosexuality have nothing in common  userdave2061   Sep-02-03 02:43 AM   #116 
        - Our CANF friends are homophobes and anti-Semites  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-03 12:06 AM   #144 
  - KUCINICH on Cuba  Tinoire   Sep-01-03 02:09 PM   #47 
     - DK is the man with a plan!  Forkboy   Sep-01-03 02:13 PM   #48 
     - Tinoire, I was late in seeing this great post.  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 08:55 PM   #138 
  - This Thursday the House is expected to vote on lifting travel ban  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 10:39 AM   #8 
  - List  Catch22Dem   Sep-01-03 10:49 AM   #10 
  - Ugh  BayCityProgressive   Sep-01-03 10:54 AM   #12 
  - No contradiction here  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 10:54 AM   #11 
  - In other words  BayCityProgressive   Sep-01-03 10:55 AM   #13 
     - In other words  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 10:58 AM   #14 
     - The terrorists  BayCityProgressive   Sep-01-03 11:01 AM   #16 
        - 'Terrorists' 'mob' 'car bombs' ?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 11:08 AM   #21 
           - Here are Some examples of Miami Cuban Terrorism  guajira   Sep-01-03 12:02 PM   #32 
           - 1968? 1972? 1974? 1975? Do you have anything from this century?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 12:32 PM   #37 
           - You can start you own search here  JudiLyn   Sep-01-03 01:08 PM   #39 
              - I'm just asking the poster to back up the inflammatory statements he made.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 01:23 PM   #40 
                 - 2003 U.S. Funding for Transition in Cuba  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 01:46 PM   #42 
                 - There is nothing in that link that says anything about terrorist groups,  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 01:54 PM   #43 
                 - The "exiles" in Miami receiving the funds have a long history of terrorism  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 02:06 PM   #46 
                    - Your references do not back up what you are saying.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 02:13 PM   #49 
                       - Obvioulsy you didn't bother to read it  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 03:37 PM   #60 
                          - So you are admitting that you have no evidence to back your assertion?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 04:10 PM   #67 
                             - The US NED fund the CANF, they fund(ed) terrorists. Oh, and the CIA  Mika   Sep-01-03 04:23 PM   #70 
                             - Yes, as the US Ambassador said: CANF for one!  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 04:28 PM   #71 
                                - It is YOUR case to make  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 04:54 PM   #78 
                                   - BREAKTHROUGH!! "some Cuban exiles are good, some are evil"  Mika   Sep-01-03 05:13 PM   #81 
                                   - Again, you say there are references, but don't provide them.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:22 PM   #84 
                                      - Yawn x2  Mika   Sep-01-03 05:33 PM   #88 
                                         - None of those links describe any current US funding of  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:39 PM   #90 
                                         - Its got to be CURRENT, now?  Mika   Sep-01-03 05:53 PM   #92 
                                         - Look I am not against you or your cause!  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 06:04 PM   #93 
                                         - What do you think the US gov't funds to "exiles" and "dissidents" is for?  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 08:31 PM   #98 
                                         - Why don't you just state your real agenda, whatever it is?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 09:24 PM   #102 
                                         - Excuse me?  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 10:18 PM   #109 
                                         - I've asked you to explain your view of these issues - you've declined. OK.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 10:36 PM   #112 
                                         - Nonsense, you said for wanted to be informed, not opinionated  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 11:02 PM   #113 
                                         - Is this the way you try to educate people to your viewpoint?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-03 02:32 AM   #115 
                                         - You've been given many links. Now educate yourself  Mika   Sep-02-03 07:51 AM   #121 
                                         - I have read every single one of those links.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-03 11:37 AM   #131 
                                         - I didn't make that statement  Mika   Sep-02-03 07:47 PM   #137 
                                         - If you are not defending that statement then I have no argument with you.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 11:04 AM   #155 
                                         - Nonsense! If you want to cling to your deluded fantasies  Osolomia   Sep-02-03 09:08 AM   #126 
                                         - I don't have any 'deluded fantasies' about this issue.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-03 11:26 AM   #130 
                                         - Your persistent misinterpretations of what was said  Osolomia   Sep-02-03 03:06 PM   #136 
                                   - The embargo is evil  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 05:15 PM   #82 
                                      - That may very well be true  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:24 PM   #85 
                                      - That doesn't. Other evidence suggests otherwise  Mika   Sep-01-03 05:44 PM   #91 
                                      - Could you please point to the evidence that you are talking about  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 06:14 PM   #95 
                                      - Lil' ol 'murica wouldn't hurt a fly.  userdave2061   Sep-02-03 02:55 AM   #118 
                                      - That "may" be true?  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 06:20 PM   #96 
                                         - So I'm evil because I haven't formed an opinion on this subject?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 06:28 PM   #97 
                                      - "The embargo is evil"  userdave2061   Sep-02-03 02:53 AM   #117 
                 - N.E.D. contributes to C.A.N.F.  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 11:16 AM   #128 
                    - Waybe S. Smith, former U.S. head of Interests Section in Havana  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 11:24 AM   #129 
                    - N.E.D. use of taxpayers' money  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 11:47 AM   #132 
                    - Congress funding to NED to Cuban American National Foundation  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 11:58 AM   #134 
                    - Where does the Cuban American Nat'l Foundation get its money?  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 01:24 PM   #135 
                 - I'd say public record is hardly inflamitory  mitchtv   Sep-01-03 01:57 PM   #44 
                 - If the information is so available and easy to find, please post a link  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 01:59 PM   #45 
                 - Obviously you didn't read my link - here is more of the article  guajira   Sep-01-03 08:45 PM   #99 
                    - Actually I read the whole link. The only incidents from this century  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 09:41 PM   #105 
                       - This century? Ever see Frometal Jacket for example?  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 11:55 PM   #206 
                          - It's working now. I just reread it.  JudiLyn   Sep-04-03 01:31 AM   #207 
     - I believe by unilaterally he meant not dropping all sanctions  HopeLives   Sep-01-03 11:08 AM   #22 
  - Kerry 'might consider' sending MORE MONEY to DISSIDENTS  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 11:05 AM   #17 
  - Please explain this to me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 11:11 AM   #23 
     - So you support Al Qaida financing dissidents in the USA  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 11:26 AM   #26 
        - I support what I say I support, not the strawmen you make up for me  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 11:38 AM   #28 
  - nothing new from Senator waffle  sujan   Sep-01-03 11:06 AM   #18 
  - what have sanctions against Cuba actually achieved...  mike_c   Sep-01-03 11:08 AM   #20 
  - They have achieved a campaign funding platform  Mika   Sep-01-03 12:10 PM   #34 
  - No - Kerry sounds like a repug  donsu   Sep-01-03 11:13 AM   #24 
  - The dem candidates misread this issues  pasadenaboy   Sep-01-03 11:34 AM   #27 
  - "dissidents" in America funded by the middle east  BayCityProgressive   Sep-01-03 11:42 AM   #29 
  - Cuban-Americans aren't solidly in Bush camp for 2004  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 11:45 AM   #30 
     - Democrats are Dreaming!!!  guajira   Sep-01-03 12:17 PM   #35 
  - 35 US States have signed trade agreements with Cuba  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 12:09 PM   #33 
  - Here's an article for newcomers to Cuban "exile" problems  JudiLyn   Sep-01-03 02:34 PM   #50 
  - So is the US funding terrorist activity in Cuba or Florida or not?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 02:43 PM   #51 
  - Yes. The CANF for one, the CIA another  Mika   Sep-01-03 03:50 PM   #63 
     - And if you look you'll find the same names listed  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 04:07 PM   #66 
     - Interestingly enough  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 04:29 PM   #72 
     - You need to connect the dots!  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 04:47 PM   #77 
     - No, it's your argument, YOU need to connect the dots  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:02 PM   #80 
     - Who said ALL "exiles"  Mika   Sep-01-03 05:00 PM   #79 
        - Not me, I never used the phrase once in any of my posts  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 05:17 PM   #83 
     - Who hasn't seen THIS before?  JudiLyn   Sep-01-03 04:46 PM   #76 
  - Terrorism is only terrorism when it's committed by Arabs.  BillyBunter   Sep-01-03 02:47 PM   #53 
  - Mmmmm...  legin   Sep-01-03 02:44 PM   #52 
  - Kerry has been consistent - as always.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 02:50 PM   #54 
     - Kerry is a liar! Why did he say "unilateral" when the US is the only...  IndianaGreen   Sep-01-03 03:03 PM   #56 
        - We get it, you hate Kerry. Here is the dictionary definition of unilateral  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 03:21 PM   #58 
        - Unilateral, as in only one side participates.  HopeLives   Sep-01-03 03:27 PM   #59 
        - So Kerry is still waging the Cold War? A bigger moron than I thought!  IndianaGreen   Sep-01-03 03:39 PM   #61 
           - Kerry is to blame for all of America's mistakes.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 04:15 PM   #68 
              - Nice distortion, it is called a "strawman argument" I believe  IndianaGreen   Sep-01-03 10:04 PM   #107 
                 - If you want  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 10:14 PM   #108 
        - Kerry never opposed Vietnam  imhotep   Sep-01-03 03:52 PM   #64 
           - What a laughable misrepresentation  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-01-03 04:40 PM   #75 
  - To all: Dean NEVER said he wouldn't repeal the embargo.  Sean Reynolds   Sep-01-03 03:01 PM   #55 
  - And  legin   Sep-01-03 03:53 PM   #65 
  - what it's worth  kenzee13   Sep-01-03 09:45 PM   #106 
  - this really grates me  Mel   Sep-01-03 03:08 PM   #57 
  - Jimmy Carter has a less political perspective on Cuba -  JudiLyn   Sep-01-03 04:31 PM   #73 
     - Carter's vision of future U.S.-Cuban relations - May 14, 2002  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:33 PM   #171 
        - Carter's vision  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 02:39 PM   #178 
           - Read the whole speech if you want to understand what Carter is saying  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 03:01 PM   #181 
              - I did. In the conclusion to his speech at the University of Havana  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 03:28 PM   #184 
                 - OK, you did, I hope everyone else reads the whole thing too  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 03:34 PM   #185 
  - Just heard from a knowledgeable South Florida D.U. reader  JudiLyn   Sep-01-03 03:49 PM   #62 
  - TRAVEL BAN ON CUBA TIGHTENED: WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 04:17 PM   #69 
     - Americans are second class citizens/residents  Mika   Sep-01-03 04:33 PM   #74 
        - And that's the way DUers like it!  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 06:09 PM   #94 
           - Miami Cubans can now stay at 5-star hotels in Havana and Varadero!  guajira   Sep-01-03 09:26 PM   #103 
  - With so many progressive* democrats* in the Repuke camp  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 09:00 PM   #100 
  - Dem or Repuke? Only his gastroenterologist knows for sure!  Voltaire99   Sep-01-03 09:19 PM   #101 
  - So True, Remember Nader Went to Cuba and Spoke at the  guajira   Sep-01-03 09:32 PM   #104 
  - an historic opportunity has been handed to the Dems indeed!  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 10:30 PM   #111 
  - Yay Greens  Uzybone   Sep-03-03 03:41 PM   #187 
  - Oh my god  jiacinto   Sep-01-03 10:21 PM   #110 
     - No, it'd be an anti-Cuban "exile" platform of majority rule  Osolomia   Sep-01-03 11:12 PM   #114 
     - Gotta love Carlos' pro-Castro Marxist accusations. They're funny.  Mika   Sep-02-03 08:34 AM   #123 
  - The embargo is the only example of consistent foreign policy  tlb   Sep-02-03 03:16 AM   #119 
  - The current embargo was put in place October 19, 1960  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 04:15 AM   #120 
     - So far 93% of DUers who voted want the embargo to end  Mika   Sep-02-03 08:20 AM   #122 
        - Mika, Thanks for posting that Poll!  guajira   Sep-02-03 09:05 AM   #125 
           - Theres a veto proof bipartisan majority vote in the House  Osolomia   Sep-02-03 09:40 AM   #127 
  - The irony of embargos:  joshcryer   Sep-02-03 09:02 AM   #124 
  - No, it makes no sense - Embargos are not "necessary" - it's a choice  guajira   Sep-02-03 11:57 AM   #133 
     - They're "necessary to curb oppression."  joshcryer   Sep-02-03 08:57 PM   #139 
     - Do you recall reading that the Texas Legislature passed a resolution  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 09:33 PM   #140 
  - dont like this by Kerry  JohnKleeb   Sep-02-03 09:37 PM   #141 
  - It IS sad. Someday, with a Democratic President, it'll probably change  JudiLyn   Sep-02-03 10:32 PM   #142 
  - Gen. Wesley Clark favors ending embargo and travel ban  guajira   Sep-02-03 11:04 PM   #143 
     - Clark also favors ending the idiotic "don't ask, don't tell" policy  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-03 01:23 AM   #146 
  - Transcript from Meet the Press  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 12:38 AM   #145 
  - Amnesty International's 2003 Cuba report  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:58 AM   #147 
  - AI neglects to mention the US taxpayer funding of the dissidents  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 09:11 AM   #149 
  - Foreign funding of U.S. "dissidents" wouldn't go over here, would it?  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 09:31 AM   #150 
  - How about Amnesty International report on the United States?  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-03 12:54 PM   #162 
  - Amnesty International MAY be influenced by its Miami exile members  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 08:23 AM   #148 
  - I get it - any criticism of Cuba is an exile-sponsored plot  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 09:50 AM   #151 
     - Who said that?  Mika   Sep-03-03 09:58 AM   #152 
     - It takes a Real Gusano (worm) to try to keep Cuban grammy nominees  guajira   Sep-03-03 10:08 AM   #153 
        - It takes a spineless Dem to pander to these Batistiano gusanos  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 11:02 AM   #154 
           - Of Course Gusanos had Help from US State Dept.-for Holding up Visas  guajira   Sep-03-03 11:37 AM   #156 
  - Inter-American Commission on Human Rights 2002 report on Cuba  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 11:52 AM   #157 
  - Human Rights Watch  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 12:01 PM   #158 
     - Human Rights Watch on the embargo, etc.  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 12:43 PM   #160 
     - HRW on U.S. capital punishment  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:04 PM   #163 
     - Amnesty International on U.S. Human Rights abuse  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:09 PM   #164 
     - U.S. Human Rights Violations in Amnesty International Report  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:11 PM   #165 
     - if my neighbor is a murderer, does that make it ok for me to be a thief?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:18 PM   #168 
        - Except that in this case, YOU (America) is the mass murderer  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-03 01:40 PM   #173 
           - If I am a mass murderer, is it ok for my neighbor to be a murderer?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:59 PM   #175 
              - There is more free speech in Cuba than in America  IndianaGreen   Sep-03-03 02:40 PM   #179 
                 - two statements  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 03:06 PM   #182 
                 - Even easier  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 04:44 PM   #191 
                 - Nonsense, who do travel banned Americans think they're foolong?  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 05:16 PM   #192 
                    - Bush's government is evil  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 05:42 PM   #193 
                 - I guess you've never heard of the Varela petition  Mika   Sep-03-03 06:43 PM   #195 
                    - Considering that it figures prominently in the Amnesty Int. report I cited  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 08:02 PM   #197 
                       - What a load of bunk!!!  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 09:58 PM   #203 
                       - words have meanings. We can read.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 10:11 PM   #204 
                       - Feanorcurufinwe, I agree with you.. you don't know a lot about Cuba.  Mika   Sep-04-03 08:09 AM   #208 
                          - Yes you were arrested but it was an illegal arrest.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-04-03 11:18 AM   #209 
                 - Reporters Without Borders  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 03:28 PM   #183 
                    - Interesting to know how the Bush U.S. fares with Reporters Without Borders  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 03:41 PM   #186 
                       - The dissident reporters in Cuba are U.S. employees  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 03:58 PM   #188 
                       - All of them?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 04:03 PM   #189 
                          - You haven't read the links, obviously  Mika   Sep-03-03 08:13 PM   #198 
                             - Take any group of 100 people, some won't agree, whatever the issue.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 08:49 PM   #199 
                             - Then why are US taxpayers still financing dissidents in Cuba?  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 10:45 PM   #205 
                             - Mika, I'm keeping an eye on the Latin Grammys from Miami tonight  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 08:58 PM   #200 
                       - Bush is evil  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 04:08 PM   #190 
                       - RWB list: USA 17th, Cuba 134th out of 139 countries.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 05:58 PM   #194 
     - Inter-American Commission on Human Rights on the U.S.  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:17 PM   #167 
     - HRW on US support of Colombian terrorists  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 12:47 PM   #161 
        - two wrongs don't make a right  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:16 PM   #166 
           - Cuba's "human rights abuses" amount to sweet F all  Osolomia   Sep-03-03 02:28 PM   #177 
              - If I lived in Cuba  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 02:55 PM   #180 
                 - Get real. Same in the US  Mika   Sep-03-03 07:44 PM   #196 
  - Center for International Human Rights on medical aspects of the embargo  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:27 PM   #169 
  - Inter-American Commission on Human Rights concerning the embargo  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:30 PM   #170 
  - I thought you said the OAS was a puppet of the US?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 01:40 PM   #174 
  - O.A.S. excudes the U.S. from I-A Commission on Human Rights  JudiLyn   Sep-03-03 01:38 PM   #172 
  - Seems to speak volumes for the credibility of the OAS  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-03-03 02:04 PM   #176 
  - For anyone who's interested  JudiLyn   Sep-04-03 11:33 AM   #210 
 

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