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| 163. Here's are quotes for you: |
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"Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germanism as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being..." pg. 113
---- "Is the preservation of German-Austrianism possible under a Catholic faith or not? If yes, the political party had no right to concern itself with religious or denominational matters; if not then what was needed was a religious reformation and never a political party. Anyone who thinks he can arrive at a religious reformation by the detour of a political organization only shows that he has no glimmer of knowledge of the development of religious ideas or dogmas and their ecclesiastical consequences." pg.114 ----
"The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which, fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its will against all others. If an idea in itself is sound and, thus armed, takes up a struggle on this earth, it is unconquerable and every persecution will only add to its inner strength.
The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine." pg. 351
Mein Kampf -----
Note that he refers to Christianity in the past tense.
It certainly isn't my impression that he wanted to kill all the Christians - esp. the ones that seemed to embody "Germanism" - but Christianity does not seem to be esp. important to him either. And he despised pacifism.
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| -Cat Stevens, on Watch List, Diverts Plane (denied entry to USA) |
Newsjock |
Sep-21-04 08:57 PM |
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It must have been for his homophobia |
JoFerret |
Sep-21-04 08:58 PM |
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RING THE PHONES OFF THE WALLS IN THE MORNING! |
anarchy1999 |
Sep-22-04 12:45 AM |
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Cat's plane diverted. Martha in prison. I feel so much safer now. (nt) |
JaneQPublic |
Sep-22-04 01:27 PM |
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You forgot |
screembloodymurder |
Sep-22-04 06:42 PM |
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He did voice support for the death fatwa on Salman Rushdie. |
Flammable Materials |
Sep-21-04 08:58 PM |
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He was asked a direct question regarding blasphemy. I heard the |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:13 PM |
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I've never seen a quote of him saying he didn't agree with it. |
HuckleB |
Sep-22-04 12:22 PM |
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Shut UP???!!! Whatever happened to "Ride on the Peace Train?" |
jdjkkse |
Sep-21-04 09:36 PM |
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Yep, that's why the 'Maniacs dropped the song off "In My Tribe" |
jdjkkse |
Sep-21-04 09:42 PM |
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And you fell for the media con job. Jeez! |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:26 AM |
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? |
HuckleB |
Sep-22-04 12:24 PM |
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ohhh baby, baby its a wild world.... |
Carla in Ca |
Sep-21-04 11:23 PM |
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And a fundie preacher calling for death to homosexuals |
DBoon |
Sep-21-04 11:54 PM |
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I am unfamiliar with what he said about Rushdie, whose work was |
TheStranger |
Sep-22-04 09:17 AM |
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I guess "Peace Train" inciting all that violence... |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Sep-21-04 08:59 PM |
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Looks like he'll have to... ride on the Peace Train |
KamaAina |
Sep-21-04 08:59 PM |
#4 |
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it's a wild world..... |
Darth_Kitten |
Sep-21-04 09:00 PM |
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I think the Cat is being followed by a moon shadow. |
olddad56 |
Sep-21-04 10:53 PM |
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Jesus Christ on a Crutch |
leeman67 |
Sep-21-04 08:59 PM |
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Have they picked up Arlo Guthrie yet? |
Jacobin |
Sep-21-04 09:28 PM |
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Just imagine |
kskiska |
Sep-21-04 09:38 PM |
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I heard he's coming into Los AngelEES |
jdjkkse |
Sep-21-04 09:44 PM |
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He owned a restaurant way back when |
Carla in Ca |
Sep-21-04 11:24 PM |
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I don't think Guthrie, Dylan and Chong would appreciate the comparison |
jdjkkse |
Sep-21-04 09:49 PM |
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Bob Dylan swallowed the kool-aid so he's safe. |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:27 AM |
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Climb aboard the Peace Plane! |
BlueEyedSon |
Sep-21-04 08:59 PM |
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Hahahahhahahhahaha - stupid fucks wasting more money |
Mr_Spock |
Sep-21-04 09:00 PM |
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He spoke at our College's speaker's forum a few years ago. |
Ilsa |
Sep-21-04 09:00 PM |
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aww, jeez, c'mon, man. this is a man of peace who always sang about |
truthisfreedom |
Sep-21-04 09:00 PM |
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"even his songs about girls were worried ones..." |
NNN0LHI |
Sep-21-04 09:06 PM |
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It's Saturday Night and I Ain't Got No Jihad |
rstein68 |
Sep-21-04 09:02 PM |
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He's one of the bad guys he supported the death of Rushdie |
lastknowngood |
Sep-21-04 09:02 PM |
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Not true... That is the US propaganda spin.... I heard a tape of the |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:09 PM |
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Even if he agreed with the fatwah doesn't make him a terrorist |
TexasBushwhacker |
Sep-21-04 11:33 PM |
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"It's a damn shame people misuse religion for hate" |
DenverDem |
Sep-21-04 09:11 PM |
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...sounds like a plan to me |
JoFerret |
Sep-21-04 09:23 PM |
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Keep them off planes, too. |
DenverDem |
Sep-21-04 09:26 PM |
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Richard Reid, 911 fucks, lockerbie, wasn't christians making stuff go boom |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:45 PM |
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Xians make plenty of stuff go boom. |
DenverDem |
Sep-21-04 09:58 PM |
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McViegh said he was a Christian. |
CornField |
Sep-21-04 10:11 PM |
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Ahem... |
WillyT |
Sep-21-04 10:22 PM |
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Don't forget Adolf and the Nazis... |
bvar22 |
Sep-21-04 10:47 PM |
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No they were not Christians |
seventhson |
Sep-21-04 11:33 PM |
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Gott Mitt Uns, I believe it said |
lazarus |
Sep-21-04 11:45 PM |
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I call bullshit. |
JCCyC |
Sep-22-04 10:56 AM |
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Hitler "PRAISING Christianity" HERE (I say Bullshit back) |
seventhson |
Sep-22-04 07:12 PM |
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"Hitler was no more of a Christian than Bush is" |
JCCyC |
Sep-23-04 10:02 AM |
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Hitler was not praising the teachings of Jesus |
seventhson |
Sep-23-04 02:15 PM |
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Googled. It's NOWHERE. |
JCCyC |
Sep-23-04 05:20 PM |
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No - I could not find it in google either. I read it in a history |
seventhson |
Sep-23-04 07:13 PM |
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without the church Hitler would have been nothing |
reorg |
Sep-22-04 08:03 PM |
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Here's are quotes for you: |
bloom |
Sep-23-04 05:21 PM |
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Sep-22-04 09:28 AM |
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here is Salman Rushdie on yesterday's hotheads ie. Stevens et al |
JoFerret |
Sep-21-04 09:26 PM |
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I can certainly understand where Rushdie is coming from.... |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:41 PM |
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he acknowledges a "repackaging" not a genuine change |
gottaB |
Sep-23-04 06:01 PM |
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You're lying. Is that christian? |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:41 AM |
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Its amazing how repeating something false over and over... |
Lerkfish |
Sep-22-04 09:56 AM |
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'Slap in the Face' |
quaoar |
Sep-22-04 10:02 AM |
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This is bullshit! |
mountainvue |
Sep-21-04 09:03 PM |
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Ahhh Jesus! How ridiculous! |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:05 PM |
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It is not all hysteria |
MeinaShaw |
Sep-22-04 12:29 AM |
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Did Cat Stevens cut his head off? |
quaoar |
Sep-22-04 12:33 AM |
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Tim McVeigh was "Christian" and a Terrorist.... So what's your point? |
hlthe2b |
Sep-22-04 01:00 PM |
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more proof that this stupid mal-administration has |
UpInArms |
Sep-21-04 09:06 PM |
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Did Cat Stevens really support the death of Rushdie? |
SineOfNothing |
Sep-21-04 09:09 PM |
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Fundie Islam(nt) |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:10 PM |
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If you read the thread above there are at lest five posts dispelling this. |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:14 PM |
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...and here is Rushdie himself |
JoFerret |
Sep-21-04 09:27 PM |
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see my post #53 |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:42 PM |
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Interesting article. |
MeinaShaw |
Sep-22-04 12:38 AM |
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supported hamas |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:09 PM |
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Hamas was started by Israel. |
DenverDem |
Sep-21-04 09:15 PM |
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They can thank arafat.. |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:37 PM |
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Stop repeating propaganda |
funnymanpants |
Sep-21-04 11:08 PM |
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Hamas is classified today by the US as a terrorist organization for |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:17 PM |
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They |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:23 PM |
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Sep-21-04 09:28 PM |
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they didn't say they didn't hate Likud as well. |
jdjkkse |
Sep-21-04 09:32 PM |
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Sep-21-04 09:33 PM |
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Sep-21-04 10:02 PM |
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There have been a few M-60 rounds going into kids in cars too... |
SidDithers |
Sep-21-04 10:06 PM |
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You are not behaving like an adult if you cannot see that the US and |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:32 AM |
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Well that's a logical conclusion |
brentspeak |
Sep-21-04 11:26 PM |
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Thank God us Murkins don't torture and murder innocent people! |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:33 AM |
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I'm not defending their actions now, though one could certainly draw |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:33 PM |
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and the Israelis have killed 3 times as many Palestinians |
Cheswick |
Sep-21-04 10:22 PM |
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Sep-22-04 09:30 AM |
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Likud-led Israel does the exact same thing. |
TheStranger |
Sep-23-04 10:26 AM |
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Yes, it is complicated |
gottaB |
Sep-23-04 06:34 PM |
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Supported Hamas? With money? Most people of faith believe in |
higher class |
Sep-21-04 09:18 PM |
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If you support Hamas with money |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:31 PM |
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Tell that to Dick Cheney who was funneling money through Haliburton |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:37 PM |
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I don't know dick about that. |
Radius |
Sep-21-04 09:39 PM |
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Obviously not... Take a look at the investigations of Greg Palast |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:55 PM |
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Grover Norquist was actively working through a Muslim "charity..." |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:58 PM |
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He denied supporting Hamas |
allemand |
Sep-22-04 06:10 AM |
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Hamas? I support Babaganoush... |
johnfunk |
Sep-21-04 09:42 PM |
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I was expecting this. No kidding. |
Gregorian |
Sep-21-04 09:10 PM |
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I don't know the subtleties of the Rushdie thing, it seemed a little |
higher class |
Sep-21-04 09:13 PM |
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"I'd like to know more details about Ashcroft's list." |
DenverDem |
Sep-21-04 09:16 PM |
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Wow! We Really Have Become a Fascist Nation. How Very Sad. |
David Zephyr |
Sep-21-04 09:17 PM |
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Cat Stevens denied entry to the us of a. My heart is broken, beyound |
anarchy1999 |
Sep-21-04 11:22 PM |
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No you havent.... |
Conservativesux |
Sep-22-04 05:40 AM |
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Mods: this thread has the potential to degenerate into a racist flame |
hlthe2b |
Sep-21-04 09:20 PM |
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Yet Richard Perle continues to travel internationally. How ironic. n/t |
rooboy |
Sep-21-04 09:21 PM |
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Don't forget Armitage, Wolfowitz and all the rest including Negroponte. |
anarchy1999 |
Sep-21-04 11:39 PM |
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Next homeland security will check on family trees |
teryang |
Sep-21-04 09:23 PM |
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Our govt no longer represents me - |
amber dog democrat |
Sep-21-04 09:33 PM |
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Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world... |
johnfunk |
Sep-21-04 09:39 PM |
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I wonder how many people made a living selling his music. |
higher class |
Sep-21-04 09:39 PM |
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c'mon everybody, let's not let this thread deteriorate into one of those |
truthisfreedom |
Sep-21-04 09:44 PM |
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Im surprised no one has wondered why Swaggart who openly |
AuntPatsy |
Sep-21-04 09:48 PM |
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Wow |
Furity |
Sep-21-04 09:48 PM |
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"Morning Has Broken" was written in 1931 by Eleanor Farjeon |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-21-04 11:49 PM |
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Bwaha ha ha! |
mmonk |
Sep-21-04 09:52 PM |
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jeez, i'm going back to live in the trees |
dweller |
Sep-21-04 09:58 PM |
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ROFLMAO! n/t |
indie_voter |
Sep-21-04 09:58 PM |
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I thought he was Buddhist? |
madfloridian |
Sep-21-04 10:03 PM |
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from google |
truthisfreedom |
Sep-21-04 10:28 PM |
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I loved that song...Yes the annnswer lies within, so why not take a look |
54anickel |
Sep-21-04 11:14 PM |
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Another link |
struggle4progress |
Sep-21-04 11:30 PM |
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Peace Train. Not Peace Plane, you dummies. |
Gregorian |
Sep-21-04 11:38 PM |
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Doesn't it occur to anyone besides me that |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-22-04 12:05 AM |
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Here are his comments about the Beslan tragedy |
quaoar |
Sep-22-04 12:19 AM |
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Well. obviously YOU "don't know anything about this man today"... |
JDWalley |
Sep-22-04 03:14 AM |
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Get real! Not ONE person arrested by Ashcroft's blackshirts |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:36 AM |
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a little bit to remember............ |
elf |
Sep-22-04 12:20 AM |
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Thanks |
quaoar |
Sep-22-04 12:31 AM |
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Here is Yusuf Islam's statement: |
quaoar |
Sep-22-04 01:10 AM |
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Still, for all we know, Cat/ Yusuf is a |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-22-04 01:58 AM |
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A prime example of the paranoid mind at work... |
JDWalley |
Sep-22-04 03:19 AM |
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So Prince Bandi and his family can fly in and out of our country |
merh |
Sep-22-04 12:16 PM |
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couldnt the same be said of you? |
tinanator |
Sep-22-04 08:02 PM |
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why in hell and damnation should we trust the Chimpire?! |
MisterP |
Sep-23-04 07:09 PM |
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Yusuf Islam quoted in NYT 5-23-89: |
SheWhoMustBeObeyed |
Sep-22-04 02:02 AM |
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1989? Man, I KNOW I said some stupid things 15 years ago, I would |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 09:10 AM |
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Will you hold Jerry Falwell's accusation that 9/11 was due to gays |
kcwayne |
Sep-22-04 10:22 AM |
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IF they continued to spout it for the next 15 years, sure. And as you |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 11:08 AM |
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If they are on the list, the action is appropriate |
kcwayne |
Sep-22-04 12:11 PM |
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Bullshit. The list is flawed, the intelligence is flawed, |
DenverDem |
Sep-22-04 01:11 PM |
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Bit more available in answer to your last statement... |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 11:25 AM |
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Osama Bin Laden is internationally respected |
kcwayne |
Sep-22-04 12:22 PM |
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He set up a fund for the families victimized by 911 and calls suicide |
deacon |
Sep-22-04 02:43 AM |
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I despise Cat Stevens, but this isn't about him |
western mass |
Sep-22-04 02:55 AM |
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Why do you despise him. Perhaps because he's a Muslim? |
leesa |
Sep-22-04 09:38 AM |
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Bush is due at the same Bangor airport tomorrow |
MaineDem |
Sep-22-04 04:53 AM |
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Yes, to some manor on the moor since he is of British royalty lineage |
higher class |
Sep-22-04 10:42 AM |
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this makes sense |
lil-petunia |
Sep-22-04 07:43 AM |
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Attention Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Ahmad Rashad, etc. |
DesertedRose |
Sep-22-04 09:47 AM |
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Lets put ABBA on the watch list. n/t |
autorank |
Sep-22-04 10:04 AM |
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I'm being following by a ........ |
liberalnproud |
Sep-22-04 11:10 AM |
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More details on making the watch list here - |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 11:47 AM |
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More vagues statements, you mean. |
HuckleB |
Sep-22-04 12:54 PM |
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Absolutely, thanks! I stand corrected. "Details" was a poor choice of |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 01:38 PM |
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British government have actually complained about his deportation |
muriel_volestrangler |
Sep-22-04 06:10 PM |
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So they can get Mr Stevens but not.. |
ChrisK |
Sep-22-04 11:56 AM |
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Paging Dolly Parton! Paging Dolly Parton! |
downstairsparts |
Sep-22-04 12:08 PM |
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Bushler: "Maybe we haven't caught Bin Laden - but we did nab Cat Stevens! |
ElementaryPenguin |
Sep-22-04 12:25 PM |
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" Oh, if I ever lose my rights...." |
chookie |
Sep-22-04 02:46 PM |
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Ewww, especially love your last point! n/t |
54anickel |
Sep-22-04 02:51 PM |
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Good, he should be banned from the country for his music alone. |
MrSlayer |
Sep-22-04 04:09 PM |
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No. |
LynnTheDem |
Sep-22-04 08:04 PM |
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again with the music criticism? |
tinanator |
Sep-22-04 08:04 PM |
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For the record - On Hitler and Jesus |
seventhson |
Sep-22-04 07:29 PM |
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'Bout bloody time! |
lib71 |
Sep-22-04 07:45 PM |
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This turned at least one Republican away from b*sh. |
Zhade |
Sep-23-04 02:54 PM |
#161 |