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Mon Sep-20-04 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #92 |
| 111. Thanks, you're the reason Kerry will probably lose. |
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It's the same reason Howard Dean got canned in the beginning of the primaries.
It's the reason people like Dean and Gore will NEVER make it to the WH, it's the same reason why Clinton was in there twice.
When you just want to satisfy your Shrub hatred, even if the basis is forged memos, you lose considerable ground. Sure, if the story had never ran we'd still have no out-and-out tangible proof, but over half of voters KNOW or suspect Shrub weaseled out of his obligations. But now, he's being seen the target of "desperation" from "them there pesky Democrats." in the eyes of the American public.
I hope it was worth it. I hope whatever little satisfaction you got from the memos is worth hearing Kerry's concession speech on Nov. 3rd.
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| -CBS Plans New Memos Statement |
CatWoman |
Sep-20-04 10:32 AM |
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This will be interesting |
molly |
Sep-20-04 10:33 AM |
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That was Andrew Sullivan |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 11:45 AM |
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Sully still shilling for *!!! Sully is an Uncle Tom to the Gay Community |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Sep-20-04 12:41 PM |
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CBS should stand behind Dan Rather |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 04:55 PM |
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Final question |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 04:58 PM |
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Final question |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 04:59 PM |
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Final question |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 04:59 PM |
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then end of any critical medai of bush is upon us |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-20-04 10:34 AM |
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the issue is not CBS. It was who was responsible for trying to screw up |
cspiguy |
Sep-20-04 10:39 AM |
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The documents haven't "undercut" anything in regards to FratBoy's.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:34 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-20-04 12:57 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-20-04 01:34 PM |
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So, will this statement then become the lead for the day? |
lunabush |
Sep-20-04 10:40 AM |
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Oh God, what a speech he was! Kerry is almost making me |
0007 |
Sep-20-04 11:25 AM |
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faux is having multiple orgasms today |
leQ |
Sep-20-04 01:17 PM |
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For well over a decade now the media |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 05:39 PM |
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Unfortunately, yes... |
MrSandman |
Sep-20-04 05:56 PM |
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As I said in the other thread... |
NSXBill |
Sep-20-04 10:47 AM |
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Who's Max Clelan? |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 10:53 AM |
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Max Cleland |
NSXBill |
Sep-20-04 10:59 AM |
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CBS has been working on this story for five years... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:06 AM |
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No...I'm just wondering what the response will be if |
NSXBill |
Sep-20-04 11:32 AM |
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GREG PALAST SAYS: |
DulceDecorum |
Sep-20-04 11:39 AM |
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Nice post! Thanks! |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:43 AM |
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Whoops. Cleland. sorry |
NSXBill |
Sep-20-04 11:02 AM |
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Burkett's not a "culprit" any more than was the author of "Fortunate... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:02 AM |
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Burkett set himself up for criticism |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:05 AM |
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And you know nothing about the validity of the documents... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:10 AM |
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Neither do you |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:12 AM |
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I've convinced myself that people that I've trusted in the past... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:28 AM |
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Not this time |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:32 AM |
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He didn't hurt Kerry at all. Where are you getting THAT from?... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:35 AM |
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Because it took attention |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:41 AM |
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You're exactly right |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:47 AM |
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You're stating your personal opinion on this issue, nothing more.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:57 AM |
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It's not an opinion, it's a FACT |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:58 AM |
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You have an interesting definition of the word "fact"... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:05 PM |
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It is a fact |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:10 PM |
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Where's your documentation to support your OPINION that people... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:14 PM |
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Once again |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:19 PM |
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Excuse me, but CBS backed Rather's report and employed four.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:38 PM |
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Jesus H. Christ...what part of Bill Burkett has acknowledged that..." |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 12:59 PM |
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LMAO |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 01:07 PM |
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Don't fall into the wording trap. |
Streetdoc270 |
Sep-20-04 02:35 PM |
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A point.... |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-20-04 12:34 PM |
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If even ONE person |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:37 PM |
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Opinion. Period. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:39 PM |
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FACT |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:42 PM |
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That's your opinion. Get over it. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:46 PM |
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Media, it REALLY is a fact |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:48 PM |
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can't you just agree to disagree?? |
freeplessinseattle |
Sep-20-04 04:53 PM |
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Thanks, you're the reason Kerry will probably lose. |
Hilary08 |
Sep-20-04 02:55 PM |
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Exactly. |
Hilary08 |
Sep-20-04 02:58 PM |
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Butter......... |
ilovenicepeople |
Sep-20-04 05:21 PM |
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Are you really this obtuse? |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 12:45 PM |
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Showcase Kerry's message? |
Autumn |
Sep-20-04 04:02 PM |
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No, youre right. They havent shown squat on his message |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 06:03 PM |
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No. This will help Kerry in a big way, I think. |
rhite5 |
Sep-20-04 12:44 PM |
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Polls say so |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:47 AM |
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Once again, you're stating nothing but your personal opinion that... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:03 PM |
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Kerry's message has NOT been lost, |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:05 PM |
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Oh, so now you're in a fallback position? Kerry's message was not.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:10 PM |
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Do I need to provide a link to you showing that |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:15 PM |
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Are you going to answer my question or are you going to adopt... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:23 PM |
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What's your question? |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:24 PM |
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...and just what the $%$(%* |
PassingFair |
Sep-20-04 05:04 PM |
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I wholeheartedly agree, don't listen to those who don't, they're clueless. |
Hilary08 |
Sep-20-04 02:48 PM |
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CBS didn't drag it out |
freeplessinseattle |
Sep-20-04 05:01 PM |
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I don't have to get used to it |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:49 AM |
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So, you're putting me on "ignore", but I'm the one "running away"??.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:45 PM |
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I love this statement, in ONE statement Media_Lies_Daily is proved WRONG. |
Hilary08 |
Sep-20-04 03:04 PM |
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Where did you come up with that |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 10:54 AM |
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Apparently from Burkett, although I can't find it |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:02 AM |
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You forgot your /sarcasm tag...nt |
SidDithers |
Sep-20-04 10:58 AM |
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moran!! |
CatWoman |
Sep-20-04 11:01 AM |
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Burkett admits documents were from him |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:53 AM |
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Thanks a lot, Burkett you fucking idiot..... |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 12:50 PM |
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Shrub might even be learning HOW to write, to send a thank you note too. |
Hilary08 |
Sep-20-04 03:11 PM |
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I damn well hope they don't apologize! Apologize for what? |
wendyvic |
Sep-20-04 10:54 AM |
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They'll have to |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 10:59 AM |
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So, are you relying on the "unnamed sources" used by the NYT and.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:09 AM |
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What "unnamed sources"? |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:11 AM |
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She didn't type them did she? She never saw them in the first place.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:26 AM |
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When I was in the military for 23 years |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 11:50 AM |
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I did |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:52 AM |
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Computer, but not a typewriter |
Tempest |
Sep-20-04 12:04 PM |
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HEY! |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:09 PM |
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On this we agree. Sensitive documents were NOT to be seen by... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:21 PM |
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That's true |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:23 PM |
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Look at yesterday's Washinton Post |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:14 AM |
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Right. Whatever you say. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:29 AM |
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Should be easy for you |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:30 AM |
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You first....you're the one that claimed that that you could tell by... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 11:40 AM |
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Look at the Post |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:49 AM |
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OK |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 11:46 AM |
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Can you tell me the title of that DU thread? |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:51 AM |
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It's called "A simple explanation for the Guard Memos." |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 12:14 PM |
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Thanks! |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:19 PM |
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Your premise is interesting |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:21 PM |
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Oh, brother! Incredible. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 12:47 PM |
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What? |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 12:50 PM |
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That's not what I claim. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 02:28 PM |
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You have it backwards |
mdredmond |
Sep-20-04 12:02 PM |
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Guilty until proven innocent? |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 02:33 PM |
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No, false until proven true |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 03:15 PM |
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The burden of proof is on the one making the accusation of forgery. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 03:27 PM |
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Fallen Short? |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 03:43 PM |
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That's not what CBS said. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 03:51 PM |
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Missing the point |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 04:00 PM |
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CBS changed their stance because Knox said she didn't type them. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 04:12 PM |
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Not just that |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 04:21 PM |
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Right. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 04:31 PM |
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Please |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 04:45 PM |
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Honor is in defending the truth. |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 05:41 PM |
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Wrong |
Nederland |
Sep-20-04 09:28 PM |
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James J. Pierce |
NRK |
Sep-20-04 09:56 PM |
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Pierce isn't a professional |
Nederland |
Sep-21-04 10:22 AM |
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You should hold the critics to the same standards. |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 10:47 AM |
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I do |
Nederland |
Sep-21-04 10:58 AM |
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I'm still waiting for your forgery evidence... |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 11:40 AM |
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Its everywhere on the web |
Nederland |
Sep-21-04 01:58 PM |
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I already told you why CBS backed down. |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 04:23 PM |
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No |
Nederland |
Sep-21-04 05:03 PM |
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Evidence supporting the documents |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 05:28 PM |
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Question |
Nederland |
Sep-21-04 07:19 PM |
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There were several models that could do these things. |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 09:13 PM |
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Link |
Nederland |
Sep-22-04 09:58 AM |
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Slight correction |
NRK |
Sep-22-04 12:25 PM |
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Could not have been an Executive |
Nederland |
Sep-22-04 03:06 PM |
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Errors in NYT article |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 04:50 PM |
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First WP page |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 04:57 PM |
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Quand0 is just beyond incompetent. |
NRK |
Sep-21-04 05:17 PM |
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Hey, unnamed sources were good enough for you with Kitty Kelley |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 01:02 PM |
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Apologize for using fake documents as real ones.... and.. |
TryingToWarnYou |
Sep-20-04 12:51 PM |
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"Unnamed sources". Gotta love it. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Sep-20-04 10:59 AM |
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Sweet. They are getting all kinds of publicity for tonight's show |
Alpharetta |
Sep-20-04 11:02 AM |
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Statement released over at drudgereport.com |
Spoon |
Sep-20-04 11:08 AM |
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CBS just said they were misled on documents |
NSXBill |
Sep-20-04 11:10 AM |
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Damn CBS! |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-20-04 11:14 AM |
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How could they, in the face |
RivetJoint |
Sep-20-04 11:17 AM |
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Heard on Radio from wire report |
rmpalmer |
Sep-20-04 11:17 AM |
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Dan Rather is going to come through this. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Sep-20-04 11:15 AM |
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Rather will likely say that |
Gman |
Sep-20-04 11:16 AM |
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There is also the story they did with the secretary. |
Kadie |
Sep-20-04 11:24 AM |
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Specifically, the secretary confirms the truth about the content |
Gman |
Sep-20-04 11:28 AM |
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Damn right Gman |
bearfan454 |
Sep-20-04 11:58 AM |
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Rather already said that on the last 60 Minutes show. |
Seabiscuit |
Sep-20-04 05:55 PM |
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That's a shame... because the meat of the memos was true.. |
Caliphoto |
Sep-20-04 11:23 AM |
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Nah. Sounds like a deal was struck. Dan, suck it up & you can stay... |
wendyvic |
Sep-20-04 11:35 AM |
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Read today's Greg Palast. And remember- BARNES TESTIFIED! |
Gregorian |
Sep-20-04 11:37 AM |
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Story up on CBS News site |
CatWoman |
Sep-20-04 11:48 AM |
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Greg Palast provides interesting information on this. |
rhite5 |
Sep-20-04 12:12 PM |
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The story of Bush's preferential treatment.... |
Bridget Burke |
Sep-20-04 12:57 PM |
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Here here - tell it like it is. Stupid hand-ringing disruptor's. |
Mr_Spock |
Sep-20-04 01:03 PM |
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<SIGH> :( |
neomonkey |
Sep-20-04 01:50 PM |
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At least.... |
AntiFascist |
Sep-20-04 03:17 PM |
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This shit could well have cost Kerry the election |
HEyHEY |
Sep-20-04 03:30 PM |
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How? |
bobbyboucher |
Sep-20-04 04:36 PM |
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What?????? Go away with this crap. |
Mr_Spock |
Sep-20-04 05:54 PM |
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How? |
HEyHEY |
Sep-20-04 09:57 PM |
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unfortunately |
RareLubbockDem |
Sep-20-04 09:38 PM |
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Geez... |
n2mark |
Sep-20-04 04:41 PM |
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So, who was AWOL then, Rather or W? |
robbedvoter |
Sep-20-04 04:44 PM |
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If Burkett states he didn't forge them, then who did and why? n/t |
Catfight |
Sep-20-04 05:51 PM |
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LTTE's to all media |
PATRICK |
Sep-21-04 10:54 AM |
#151 |