Eloriel
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Sun Aug-24-03 03:17 PM
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| 16. I hope you'll read my post in response to Kephra above |
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I don't totally disagree -- but I am saying to keep an open mind about how much Nazi influence, or fascist beliefs and philosophies Arnold may hold, disguised (to him, and all of us) as good ole contemporary Republican beliefs.
Eloriel
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| -Records: Schwarzenegger's father was member of Nazi storm troops |
Newsjock |
Aug-24-03 02:29 PM |
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Fortunately, Gustav is not running for governor |
DavidD |
Aug-24-03 02:32 PM |
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Do you think that being raised by a brutal Nazi SA officer |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 02:41 PM |
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Young people also rebel |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 02:43 PM |
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Well said, Muddleoftheroad |
DavidD |
Aug-24-03 03:17 PM |
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1) What is "slander" in my post; 2) Please describe A. Schwarzenegger's |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 05:17 PM |
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Bullshit |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 05:59 PM |
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Clearly you have not taken the trouble to educate yourself on |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 06:38 PM |
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Actually, I follow the general issue |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 07:24 PM |
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I say that if slanders helps the wrong man lose |
stumblnrose |
Aug-25-03 11:31 PM |
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He didn't seem to be rebelling when he toastedKurt Waldheim (nazi) |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-25-03 06:56 PM |
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And the entire Kennedy clan was there toasting Waldheim... |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-25-03 07:25 PM |
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Valid question. |
bobthedrummer |
Aug-24-03 03:44 PM |
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Too darn tempting not to photoshop... |
Billy_Pilgrim |
Aug-24-03 05:07 PM |
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Arnold is not responsible for his father |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 06:31 PM |
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Ah but oddly |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 07:24 PM |
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Philosophy |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 07:25 PM |
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It is perfectly legitimate to bring up anything about a |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 07:42 PM |
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Should we then discuss how many girls Davis had sex with in high school? |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 08:45 PM |
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I repeat... |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 09:59 PM |
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You relish distorting what I wrote about Bustamante as much... |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 11:24 PM |
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Your posts |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 11:36 PM |
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He was just a small licentious light in his father's eyes |
BonjourUSA |
Aug-26-03 09:25 AM |
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Yes, especially when he tells the media..... |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-25-03 04:05 PM |
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yes, but |
seekthetruth |
Aug-24-03 03:24 PM |
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Really? |
spinbaby |
Aug-24-03 03:31 PM |
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are you running for office? |
seekthetruth |
Aug-24-03 07:37 PM |
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And what if she was running?... |
fujiyama |
Aug-25-03 04:52 AM |
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who's "we"? |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 09:03 AM |
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The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it? |
corarose |
Aug-24-03 10:24 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-24-03 11:28 PM |
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better knock off the personal attacks, bud! |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 09:06 AM |
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bush's grandfather made big bucks... |
JPace |
Aug-24-03 02:33 PM |
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"Bush is not a Nazi" Flash |
LeighAnn |
Aug-24-03 03:39 PM |
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And in America, Arnold becomes a Republican.... |
onehandle |
Aug-24-03 02:37 PM |
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Kinda proves Nazis and Republicans are spiritual kin |
fed2dneck |
Aug-25-03 03:25 PM |
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Jesus's father was a carpenter |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 02:42 PM |
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Agreed...I'm not responsible for the sins of my father |
khephra |
Aug-24-03 02:47 PM |
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Don't be naive, Kef |
Eloriel |
Aug-24-03 03:13 PM |
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Undemocratic |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 04:46 PM |
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No. Legal does not automtically equal pro-democracy |
Eloriel |
Aug-24-03 05:51 PM |
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The people voted |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 06:02 PM |
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Ah, the heart of the problem |
Eloriel |
Aug-25-03 10:26 AM |
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constitutional |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-26-03 06:46 AM |
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Everything the Nazis did was legal. |
Sterling |
Aug-25-03 05:22 PM |
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I find myself in very rare agreement with Muddle |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 06:34 PM |
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LOL |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 11:29 PM |
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Don't be so quicK |
fujiyama |
Aug-25-03 05:08 AM |
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Morality? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-25-03 07:01 AM |
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Morality? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-25-03 07:01 AM |
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Legal maybe, but fair and democratic? |
fujiyama |
Aug-26-03 02:04 AM |
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Last time i checked... |
ret5hd |
Aug-24-03 02:49 PM |
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The "sins of the fathers" bit is one of the reasons |
khephra |
Aug-24-03 02:52 PM |
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me either... |
ret5hd |
Aug-24-03 03:10 PM |
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The invisible cloud guy |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 04:43 PM |
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My father was a Captain in the Mob..... |
liberalnurse |
Aug-24-03 02:49 PM |
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Made. |
htuttle |
Aug-24-03 02:51 PM |
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I depends are you full or part? |
corarose |
Aug-24-03 10:38 PM |
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Careful... |
Zhade |
Aug-24-03 02:55 PM |
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It's not just a question of guilt by association |
starroute |
Aug-24-03 03:17 PM |
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He's a body builder for goodness sake |
Muddleoftheroad |
Aug-24-03 04:44 PM |
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What about membership in La MEChA? |
Character Assassin |
Aug-24-03 06:08 PM |
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We are discussing that very topic in GD (Bustamante) |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 07:02 PM |
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I'm already there..... |
Character Assassin |
Aug-24-03 07:18 PM |
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I hope you'll read my post in response to Kephra above |
Eloriel |
Aug-24-03 03:17 PM |
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Just saying be careful. I don't trust Arnold further than I can throw him. |
Zhade |
Aug-24-03 03:31 PM |
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Why this is important... |
Devils Advocate NZ |
Aug-24-03 03:19 PM |
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He was also a military policeman in northern the front near Leningrad |
PurityOfEssence |
Aug-24-03 03:31 PM |
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The influence of his father on A. Schwarzenegger is an important |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 05:36 PM |
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Yes, we're in accord on this one |
PurityOfEssence |
Aug-24-03 07:11 PM |
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There is a difference between Nietzsche and the Nazis |
slack |
Aug-24-03 07:56 PM |
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I think you're showing that no one really knows squat about |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 11:14 PM |
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If arnold is friends with haider |
Bertrand |
Aug-24-03 11:27 PM |
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Non-issue for me... |
lib71 |
Aug-24-03 05:57 PM |
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Is that the issue? |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 07:07 PM |
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Felix, I live in CA... |
lib71 |
Aug-25-03 01:39 AM |
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Yes well... |
felix19 |
Aug-25-03 08:50 AM |
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good post! |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 10:48 AM |
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Good enough for Rabbi Hier, good enough for me... |
lib71 |
Aug-25-03 12:32 PM |
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One word: "Flypaper".... |
felix19 |
Aug-25-03 01:16 PM |
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Please explain |
lib71 |
Aug-25-03 01:27 PM |
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canigeta |
Aug-26-03 03:14 AM |
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Almost forgot.... |
lib71 |
Aug-24-03 06:05 PM |
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I have to defend Schwarzenegger on this |
Kellanved |
Aug-24-03 06:19 PM |
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Welcome to the sanitizing spin! |
PATRICK |
Aug-25-03 02:14 PM |
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Who cares? He won't win anyway. |
truthisfreedom |
Aug-24-03 07:35 PM |
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I agree that GOPers have launched an anti-democratic campaign... |
Q |
Aug-24-03 07:59 PM |
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GOP/Freeper mentality - Attacks on ancient history like |
zbdent |
Aug-24-03 08:36 PM |
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Good to see most DUers rejecting this Nazi thing |
MacCovern |
Aug-24-03 08:47 PM |
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Yes, it is comforting isn't it? |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 10:04 PM |
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We need to get Holy Joe's opinion on this matter in front of cameras |
corarose |
Aug-24-03 10:27 PM |
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Only a demagogue would bring Lieberman into this discussion |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 11:31 PM |
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Arnold has no "D" behind his name, therefore this is a non-issue. |
Dr Fate |
Aug-24-03 10:44 PM |
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I wondered when this thread was gonna happen |
darkstar |
Aug-24-03 11:00 PM |
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What are the important issues |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 11:26 PM |
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It is a non-issue because |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 11:41 PM |
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I repeat |
felix19 |
Aug-24-03 11:57 PM |
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I repeat |
darkstar |
Aug-25-03 02:07 AM |
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You may have noted I was responding to post #72 |
felix19 |
Aug-25-03 06:49 PM |
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I agree w/ you completely and... |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-25-03 04:33 PM |
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We're seeing some... |
felix19 |
Aug-25-03 05:42 PM |
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Oh Felix.... |
lib71 |
Aug-25-03 01:59 AM |
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Arnold's father and Wilhelm - two different things |
fujiyama |
Aug-25-03 05:32 AM |
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don't play dirty? |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 10:45 AM |
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I don't expect you to... |
fujiyama |
Aug-26-03 01:32 AM |
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Kurt Waldheim invited to Arnold's wedding. |
Dover |
Aug-24-03 11:28 PM |
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And the entire Kennedy clan was there as well |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-24-03 11:46 PM |
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Did Joe or Jack |
lazarus |
Aug-25-03 01:06 AM |
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Joe was a criminal: he smuggled alcohol during prohibtion. |
Character Assassin |
Aug-25-03 07:03 PM |
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good point about joe kennedy... |
fujiyama |
Aug-25-03 05:43 AM |
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Don't forget the venerable Walt Disney |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-25-03 07:30 PM |
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Do you have a source on father Joe |
9215 |
Aug-25-03 09:32 AM |
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Kennedy's anti-Semitism and appeasement of Hitler is well documented |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-25-03 11:41 PM |
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Something changed the Kennedys |
9215 |
Aug-26-03 06:39 AM |
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The Kennedy sons were a bit more complex than Joseph Kennedy |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-26-03 08:17 PM |
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The difference |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 03:37 PM |
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But you still aren't separating ARNOLD'S actions which were to offer |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-25-03 06:59 PM |
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Why not talk about grandfathers? |
HaThorAtor |
Aug-25-03 02:47 AM |
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thank you! |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 10:46 AM |
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the SA? |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-25-03 05:01 AM |
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i think the SA did survive the Rohm purge. |
TheBigGuy |
Aug-25-03 04:18 PM |
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That PROVES Arnold is too liberal! |
Kanzeon |
Aug-25-03 09:17 AM |
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This is just more evidence of the long |
9215 |
Aug-25-03 09:27 AM |
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finally |
seekthetruth |
Aug-25-03 10:47 AM |
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Yea, its like |
9215 |
Aug-25-03 08:40 PM |
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Don't forget Joe Kennedy and the Nazis! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-25-03 08:58 PM |
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Please see my response above. |
9215 |
Aug-26-03 06:43 AM |
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Heil everybody... |
Patriot_Spear |
Aug-25-03 11:49 AM |
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Genetics helped determine his party choice? |
nn2004 |
Aug-25-03 01:27 PM |
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maybe... |
Patriot_Spear |
Aug-25-03 04:45 PM |
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As Gilbert & Sullivan said... |
Wednesdays |
Aug-26-03 10:52 AM |
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How many DUers had repubican parents? |
nn2004 |
Aug-25-03 11:57 AM |
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My parents are card-carrying members |
TSElliott |
Aug-25-03 01:44 PM |
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Guy can't even speak: trite TV ads obviously lip-sync'd ... |
ichiro99 |
Aug-25-03 11:24 PM |
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Well Arnie was like a really nasty storntrooper in T1 |
genius |
Aug-25-03 01:44 PM |
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..whatever it takes |
Starpass |
Aug-25-03 09:18 PM |
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Atleast your honest! |
fujiyama |
Aug-26-03 01:50 AM |
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Wait a sec- who said this was a lie? |
Patriot_Spear |
Aug-26-03 08:31 AM |
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Never said it was a lie... |
fujiyama |
Aug-26-03 02:55 PM |
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The only people fretting over this being a BIG issue |
felix19 |
Aug-26-03 09:06 AM |
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I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth |
lib71 |
Aug-26-03 12:17 PM |
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Your own words are sufficient |
felix19 |
Aug-26-03 02:25 PM |
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Quack-quack |
lib71 |
Aug-26-03 10:48 PM |
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Here's his pa right here... |
dutchdemocrat |
Aug-26-03 05:40 AM |
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Snappy uniform too |
slackmaster |
Aug-26-03 11:00 AM |
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The racism is wide open, and sickening |
felix19 |
Aug-26-03 11:28 AM |
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If we open up these can of worms than not only will our lives |
Sweetpea |
Aug-26-03 05:48 AM |
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canigeta |
Aug-26-03 08:09 AM |
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Does this mean Uday and Qusay could have been governor too? |
Patriot_Spear |
Aug-26-03 08:23 AM |
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Maybe.... |
californication |
Aug-26-03 12:25 PM |
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...Brown Shirt AND Nazi Storm Trooper?! |
Patriot_Spear |
Aug-26-03 03:38 PM |
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Well... |
californication |
Aug-26-03 04:09 PM |
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Is poor, vulnerable Arnie responsible for HIS OWN NAZI sympathies? |
robbedvoter |
Aug-26-03 11:45 AM |
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What crap |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 01:09 PM |
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hey |
none |
Aug-26-03 02:33 PM |
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Who is felix? |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 03:30 PM |
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Did you notice the article I provided (text, link?) The Arnie Fan club |
robbedvoter |
Aug-26-03 04:08 PM |
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Your puerile attempt to justify your labels is transparent |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 04:14 PM |
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Sorry you don't like my link. Your passion for Arnie's nazi heritage |
robbedvoter |
Aug-26-03 04:26 PM |
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That is exactly that kindergarden-level crap that I was talking about |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 04:37 PM |
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Trying to live up to your handle (but not when it comes to Arnie) |
robbedvoter |
Aug-26-03 04:59 PM |
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Why would I waste time doing that? |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 05:21 PM |
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Why do you keep posting? To show me? |
robbedvoter |
Aug-26-03 05:38 PM |
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As long as you make statements like that, I'll respond. |
Character Assassin |
Aug-26-03 05:44 PM |
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As you believe in guilt by association |
delete_bush |
Aug-27-03 12:30 AM |
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LOL |
lib71 |
Aug-27-03 06:16 PM |
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He keeps posting |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 04:10 PM |
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No, I care about accuracy and not giving fodder to this site's enemies |
Character Assassin |
Aug-27-03 04:25 PM |
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See my reply to Lib71 below |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 08:50 PM |
#174 |
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Jasocal by another name? |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 03:52 PM |
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Good reply: |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 03:48 PM |
#166 |
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Kernel of truth? |
lib71 |
Aug-27-03 06:24 PM |
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The article by John Harlow cited by |
9215 |
Aug-27-03 08:45 PM |
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I agree with you, but what I want to know is.... |
smirkymonkey |
Aug-26-03 02:56 PM |
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sigh... |
lib71 |
Aug-27-03 02:48 PM |
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And, that my friend, is the ultimate question. |
robbedvoter |
Aug-27-03 10:37 PM |
#176 |
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What a pantload of complete horse crap |
LogicTrueFalse |
Aug-27-03 06:49 PM |
#172 |
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What a disgusting cause to attack! Why oh, why defend Arnold |
robbedvoter |
Aug-27-03 10:35 PM |
#175 |
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