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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:25 PM
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90. M1
M1 has a ballistics computer, and fires a single shell, not 6000 per min. Hell of a weapons system. If you served on an AC-130 or something, I'm not kicking it. Just saying that it is not generally thought of as a precision platform. Using it in a city may not be wise. If the 40 and 105 can put accurate fire down then fine.
I'm sure you've seen the GCF form afganistan, effective but not pinpoint.


13 meter cep is correct. I misread. My fault. Obviously that weapon landed exactly where it was supposed to. GPS units fall may fall below 13m, but I can't find that on a reliable link. I've seen plenty of metal on metal hits on armor that suggests <13 cep from GBU units. Sorry for lack of info.

BTW I scoured the gutters of the internet for a better res link and can not find one. You can take my word on whether they were armed or not.

Look at the video and use your own judgement.

Sorry about that..
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           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-04 04:16 PM   #82 
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