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Sat Aug-14-04 02:01 PM
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| 38. people who bomb civilian populations are war criminals... |
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Edited on Sat Aug-14-04 02:13 PM by mike_c
...deserving prosecution, not "support." The occupied population not only has the right to fight back, it has an obligation, IMO, to drive out it's oppressors. If I were Iraqi I know damn well who I'd be shooting at.
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| -U.S. Army Says Kills 50 Iraqi Insurgents in Samarra |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:32 AM |
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I hope no civilians were killed |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:39 AM |
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If you drop a 500 pound bomb on a town... |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:42 AM |
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So you support them killing our troops? |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:43 AM |
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If I were a German in 1939, I would not have supported the Wehrmacht |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:12 AM |
#5 |
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Bunch of flag wavers like Bush himself |
saskatoon |
Aug-14-04 03:21 PM |
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That's NOT what she's saying. |
saigon68 |
Aug-14-04 03:47 AM |
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Hardly |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 09:58 AM |
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Nope. You are making a straw man argument, "evidence" or not. |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-14-04 04:36 PM |
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That's not what she said. n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 10:15 AM |
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You have search capabilities |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 10:21 AM |
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"legitimate government"? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 10:28 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-14-04 10:32 AM |
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The US military of murdering thugs |
aneerkoinos |
Aug-14-04 11:10 AM |
#17 |
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Perhaps you missed this part... |
leftchick |
Aug-14-04 11:50 AM |
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I'm new here |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 12:00 PM |
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I repeat.... |
leftchick |
Aug-14-04 12:09 PM |
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I don't know |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 12:20 PM |
#26 |
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Here is a picture for you ....and Ooops... |
leftchick |
Aug-14-04 12:27 PM |
#28 |
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If this account is true |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 01:18 PM |
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"...wrong for fighting from civilian areas" |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 03:32 PM |
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And many of these "civilians" |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:44 PM |
#106 |
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The Iraqi police have nothing to do with the occupation? n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:48 PM |
#109 |
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So where should they fight? |
kitkatrose |
Aug-14-04 03:51 PM |
#111 |
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Right, why should they fight fair when we aren't? |
tedthebear |
Aug-14-04 06:12 PM |
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found one article |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 01:32 PM |
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Bombs Away,,Civilians might have left the area. WTF |
bahrbearian |
Aug-14-04 02:12 PM |
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yes, they might have left |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:23 PM |
#59 |
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Many things are pretty "obvious" about your post |
PassingFair |
Aug-14-04 03:15 PM |
#82 |
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Uhhh.... |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:21 PM |
#88 |
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BS dude! |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-14-04 04:46 PM |
#155 |
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i agree with everything you said |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:03 PM |
#39 |
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I see... |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:20 PM |
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Personal attacks would be my guess. |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 02:30 PM |
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I think that's really tragic |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:39 PM |
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It's not tragic, it's criminal, and it's targeting civilians. |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 02:52 PM |
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Show me evidence |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:04 PM |
#77 |
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So they're okay to shoot until shown not to be? n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:07 PM |
#79 |
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No, it's not ok |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:27 PM |
#93 |
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They should wait until they are actually attacked... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:29 PM |
#94 |
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I think they general do wait to be attacked |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:38 PM |
#103 |
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How many carbombs per number of cars? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:40 PM |
#104 |
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They don't fire on every car |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:48 PM |
#110 |
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The same problem still arises... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:59 PM |
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They don't fire on every car? Oh, Really? |
Xipe Totec |
Aug-14-04 04:11 PM |
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It would have been OK if there had been nukes... |
tedthebear |
Aug-14-04 06:27 PM |
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There is no game. |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 03:18 PM |
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Aug-14-04 03:32 PM |
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I don't think it is the Iraqis that are mainly killing Iraqi civilians... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:35 PM |
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Tsk, you'll get deleted. |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 03:36 PM |
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If we were the country that was occupied |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:37 PM |
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Adios |
saigon68 |
Aug-15-04 04:15 AM |
#170 |
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Here's another one for you, Bucko: |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 04:10 PM |
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There is a great documentary I suggest |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Aug-14-04 12:27 PM |
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never heard of it |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 01:50 PM |
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Well, what Rumsfeld has done has affected my |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Aug-14-04 02:19 PM |
#52 |
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Wow, your post reads like a news release from Fox News! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 11:41 AM |
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Help me understand this |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 12:09 PM |
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When the Wehrmacht marched in Poland, it was not to "invade" Poland |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 12:22 PM |
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ok.... |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 12:56 PM |
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"Ultimately democratize the Middle East to the greatest extent possible." |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 02:54 PM |
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Those nations are not democracies |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:16 PM |
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Egypt is actually the #2 recipient of US aid in the Middle East... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:19 PM |
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Good point |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:24 PM |
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Ding Ding Ding... |
PassingFair |
Aug-14-04 03:23 PM |
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I see that referred to a lot here |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 03:30 PM |
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go here.... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 04:19 PM |
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how about the US army invading Mexico? |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 02:08 PM |
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Not Mexico |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:55 PM |
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I think the poster was referring... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 02:57 PM |
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Iraq did not pose a threat to the US either! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:58 PM |
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I agree. Comparisons of the troops to SS and Nazis infuriate me. |
neverborn |
Aug-14-04 03:34 PM |
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Too damned bad! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:42 PM |
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Bill Maher suppports the troops |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:09 PM |
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How do you know that? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:14 PM |
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Most are closer to 20,000 |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:16 PM |
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So who are you trusting? n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:17 PM |
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I don't bother to look at civilian casualty reports |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:17 PM |
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So where do you get your 20,000 statistic from? n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:20 PM |
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from my newspaper that often mentions estimates |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:26 PM |
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So one site "proves" me wrong? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:32 PM |
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It doesn't really matter. |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:34 PM |
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Iraqi civilian casualties don't really matter? n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:36 PM |
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well, you're in good company among the DOD war criminals... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 04:25 PM |
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Yep I guess so? |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:26 PM |
#137 |
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Bogus, Bob Woodward's book, |
FrustratedDemInNC |
Aug-15-04 01:55 AM |
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maybe a comparison to Napoleon would be less offensive |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 09:52 PM |
#163 |
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"It's no longer the evil Americans who are running the show" |
truth2power |
Aug-14-04 01:37 PM |
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Vichy government is Legitimate? |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 01:58 PM |
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it IS the "evil Americans" who are dropping 500 lb bombs... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:09 PM |
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UH OH |
saigon68 |
Aug-15-04 04:10 AM |
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Jingoisim is a dangerous kind of stupidity |
lynx rufus |
Aug-14-04 11:31 AM |
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Yes, beware Jingoism. |
tedthebear |
Aug-14-04 06:40 PM |
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I think that's the fallacy of the excluded middle, |
truth2power |
Aug-14-04 01:33 PM |
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oh please No one said that |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 01:52 PM |
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people who bomb civilian populations are war criminals... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:01 PM |
#38 |
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How about people who gas civilian populations? |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:08 PM |
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it was war, Collateral damage |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 02:14 PM |
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tell it to Union Carbide.... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:15 PM |
#47 |
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it was an accident |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:21 PM |
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Is that the Gases and Equipment that Rummy gave Saddam |
bahrbearian |
Aug-14-04 02:16 PM |
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Oh so I guess Smith and Wesson is responsible for Columbine? |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:18 PM |
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Putin has used poison gas against the Chechen resistance |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:19 PM |
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"at least 80% of Iraqis are happier...." |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:22 PM |
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You've taken a poll?? |
natasha |
Aug-14-04 09:41 PM |
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Let's rent the film "Red Dawn" |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:13 PM |
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Except the Iraqis support this government |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:17 PM |
#49 |
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Are you quoting the same polls that Tony Blankley loves to quote? |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:23 PM |
#58 |
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You're the one that said Kerry would go down to defeat... |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:25 PM |
#60 |
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Haven't you noticed the broad appeal of ABB? |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 02:43 PM |
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Only your much detested senator |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 03:05 PM |
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Way to dodge the points btw |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 03:08 PM |
#80 |
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CPUSA is 100-percent ABB |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:21 PM |
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Even John McLaughlin dismissed |
SOS |
Aug-14-04 03:47 PM |
#108 |
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Which polls? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 02:42 PM |
#67 |
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Let's say you do that... |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:18 PM |
#51 |
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No use arguing, friend |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 02:22 PM |
#56 |
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hmmm... |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:31 PM |
#62 |
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then at least MY government would not be the ones killing... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:38 PM |
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And then you wouldn't be upset by that brand of death? |
el_chalupa |
Aug-14-04 02:45 PM |
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I won't rise to that rotten bait.... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:48 PM |
#70 |
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How is the US advocating "liberal democracy"? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 02:49 PM |
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What kinda Wolfowitz crap is that? Power-sharing? Lib democracy? |
thebigidea |
Aug-14-04 04:42 PM |
#154 |
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Troops and Bush policy are two different things |
SOS |
Aug-14-04 03:33 PM |
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Frankly, |
natasha |
Aug-14-04 09:09 PM |
#161 |
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Dropping bombs on a city guarantees children will be killed |
saigon68 |
Aug-14-04 04:14 AM |
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Operations are moving along well there... |
countfloyd |
Aug-14-04 02:47 AM |
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Samarra is also a holy city |
gottaB |
Aug-14-04 03:27 AM |
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BBC: US bombers raid Sunni Iraqi city |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:34 AM |
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many/most of the casualties appear to be women & children |
Aidoneus |
Aug-14-04 04:12 AM |
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Clearly... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 10:14 AM |
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If They Run, They're An Insurgent, . . |
loindelrio |
Aug-14-04 11:52 AM |
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The body counts have inflated quite a bit in the last week |
Barrett808 |
Aug-14-04 11:52 AM |
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all dead Iraqi civilians are invariably insurgents... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:04 PM |
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reminder for the pro-war posters what "insurgents" look like... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 02:35 PM |
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Yeah, lemme tack this on down here too: |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 02:41 PM |
#66 |
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I'm not pro-war |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 03:11 PM |
#81 |
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Please clarify what you mean by "pro-troop". n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:21 PM |
#86 |
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It means not supporting the insurgents in Iraq |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 03:47 PM |
#107 |
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Iraq is already destabilized... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 03:56 PM |
#112 |
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Iraq is destablized because of the destabilizers, |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:01 PM |
#115 |
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Iraq is destabilized because the US invasion... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:10 PM |
#118 |
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Murder requires mens rea(a guilty mind) |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:14 PM |
#124 |
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bemildred posted a great article on the subject higher in the thread... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:22 PM |
#134 |
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Don't care to read those. |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:30 PM |
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And what about the article bemildred posted? |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:35 PM |
#148 |
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"HRW is a biased pro-Palestinian organization..." |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 04:35 PM |
#149 |
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I reckon Staff Sgt Jimmy is a "biased pro-Palestinian organization" too. |
bemildred |
Aug-14-04 04:39 PM |
#151 |
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see no evil.... |
minkyboodle |
Aug-15-04 01:04 AM |
#166 |
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And a few additional articles that may be of interest... |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:28 PM |
#139 |
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that's a statement worthy of the CinC.... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 04:12 PM |
#122 |
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Non sequitur |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:15 PM |
#126 |
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clue: I'm a democrat, albeit only by the skin of my teeth... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 04:34 PM |
#147 |
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What Iraqi government? |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 03:59 PM |
#114 |
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How do you suggest they hold elections in a war zone like this one? |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:07 PM |
#116 |
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I asked you for those polls, haven't seen them yet... n/t |
Darranar |
Aug-14-04 04:11 PM |
#120 |
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Oh gee |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:12 PM |
#123 |
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that's why Allawi travels with 100 personal body guards... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 04:15 PM |
#127 |
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He travels with 100 personal body guards to protect him |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:16 PM |
#129 |
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Allawi is the ruler of the Green Zone in Baghdad |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 04:25 PM |
#136 |
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And they have absolutely nothing to do with one another. |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:28 PM |
#140 |
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Trained by the best at DINFOS! |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 04:30 PM |
#142 |
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You were never at DINFOS. |
Bogus W Potus |
Aug-14-04 04:32 PM |
#144 |
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Next thing you will be saying I have never set foot in New York... |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-14-04 04:39 PM |
#153 |
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Hey Indiana |
bahrbearian |
Aug-14-04 09:05 PM |
#160 |
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great thread, better profiles |
mitchtv |
Aug-14-04 10:06 PM |
#164 |
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DINFOS is the Defense Information School |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-15-04 03:54 AM |
#168 |
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Adios |
saigon68 |
Aug-15-04 04:17 AM |
#171 |
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no, he travels with 100 Blackwater mercs to protect him from Iraqis! |
thebigidea |
Aug-14-04 04:39 PM |
#152 |
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Destabilizing the Iraqi Government is Bad? |
Xipe Totec |
Aug-14-04 04:30 PM |
#141 |
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and I hope they face prosecution for war crimes where... |
mike_c |
Aug-14-04 03:22 PM |
#90 |
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"50 anti-Iraqi forces were killed" = propaganda-speak |
Swamp_Rat |
Aug-14-04 04:34 PM |
#145 |
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Iraq is a US Colony. |
Disturbed |
Aug-14-04 06:02 PM |
#156 |
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wake up man |
Hidebo |
Aug-14-04 10:31 PM |
#165 |
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