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153. Slightly better on the environment?
I beg to disagree. Kerry is the most green friendly Senator in the Congress. Far better than Bush. health care? How about Kerry has a plan to expand it to all and Bush does not. You may call it lip service, but I think he has a commitment on that issue and will do what he can (GOP controlled congress and whorish American media permitting) to address that problem.

Unless the American people en masse begin to reject NAFTA...its not going anywhere. No chance a serious candidate will speak against that issue and hope to be elected.

I think there is a lot of difference. Enough so that I will swallow my disgust at Kerry's IWR vote and vote to remove the actual criminal mind who sent us there from office before he does anymore damage.
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  -Kerry Stands by Iraq War Voting Record wicket  Aug-09-04 05:48 PM   #0 
  - good points all from our candidate n/t  AZDemDist6   Aug-09-04 05:49 PM   #1 
  - Look I will vote for kerry, but I don't buy him blaming the lies  dawgman   Aug-09-04 06:59 PM   #14 
     - Michael Moore said it well on Real Time.  Why   Aug-10-04 02:31 PM   #100 
        - Like I said I knew we were entering into war based on lies...  dawgman   Aug-10-04 08:47 PM   #139 
  - As he should, these Swift-Boat agitators against Kerry....  whistle   Aug-09-04 05:51 PM   #2 
  - If Kerry wins, I can't wait for him to be the Prez to tell the last man  Larkspur   Aug-09-04 05:54 PM   #3 
  - You're dreaming.  Demobrat   Aug-09-04 06:22 PM   #8 
  - Sadly, you're probably right.  goobergunch   Aug-09-04 06:43 PM   #12 
     - My Repug B-i-L threw that argument at me today.  54anickel   Aug-09-04 07:00 PM   #15 
     - I doubt that there are two things that Bush and Kerry have in com-  MasonJar   Aug-09-04 08:04 PM   #30 
        - Nah  Pastiche423   Aug-09-04 08:30 PM   #32 
        - Thank you!  54anickel   Aug-09-04 08:41 PM   #34 
        - Please don't accuse me of "tarring" Kerry.  54anickel   Aug-09-04 08:39 PM   #33 
           - Your B-i-L is right.  demoman123   Aug-10-04 01:37 PM   #96 
     - Good to have that out in the open... I guess  GeronimoSkull   Aug-09-04 08:56 PM   #37 
     - I'm with you -- this may be the proverbial straw.  Emillereid   Aug-09-04 09:00 PM   #40 
     - This should help explain his vote and his consistency in his opinion  cidliz2004   Aug-10-04 08:57 PM   #140 
     - This one statement...  qwlauren35   Aug-11-04 08:32 AM   #165 
     - I have called the Kerry Office...  qwlauren35   Aug-11-04 08:42 AM   #166 
  - ugh...  grytpype   Aug-09-04 05:56 PM   #4 
  - PNAC  aneerkoinos   Aug-09-04 06:49 PM   #13 
     - Hi aneerkoinos!  54anickel   Aug-09-04 07:17 PM   #18 
        - The democracy game  aneerkoinos   Aug-09-04 07:53 PM   #28 
           - I remember a discussion, quite a while back, regarding the Casino.  54anickel   Aug-09-04 08:49 PM   #35 
  - Well, I knew he'd have to answer that question sooner or later.  fjc   Aug-09-04 06:05 PM   #5 
  - is dis a joke?  booyakasha   Aug-09-04 06:12 PM   #6 
  - hmmmmmmmm....  wicket   Aug-09-04 06:20 PM   #7 
  - kick  wicket   Aug-10-04 12:57 PM   #88 
  - Americans are nationalistic morons  Charlie Brown   Aug-09-04 06:26 PM   #10 
  - but it is what he stands by....  mike_c   Aug-09-04 06:38 PM   #11 
     - So does 40+% of the country, apparently  Charlie Brown   Aug-09-04 07:34 PM   #22 
        - JK apparently has to choose between voters who support...  mike_c   Aug-09-04 07:44 PM   #24 
           - Yes  biscodawg   Aug-09-04 08:19 PM   #31 
           - Did you vote for Bill Clinton or Gore?  Charlie Brown   Aug-09-04 08:50 PM   #36 
  - He NEVER said that  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-10-04 08:01 AM   #75 
  - not my president....  mike_c   Aug-09-04 06:25 PM   #9 
  - Huh?!  stldemocrat   Aug-09-04 07:10 PM   #16 
  - Those of us who supported Dean saw this coming a mile away.  hansolsen   Aug-09-04 10:01 PM   #48 
  - "told you so"  Snivi Yllom   Aug-10-04 08:19 AM   #78 
  - And yet Dean had his own credibility issues,  OK_DemX2   Aug-10-04 06:44 PM   #133 
  - I feel your pain, as my more than half a century of years shows.  candy331   Aug-10-04 11:05 PM   #161 
  - Good question, hit with ton of bricks answers I bet cha.  candy331   Aug-10-04 11:02 PM   #160 
  - Post Mortem  aneerkoinos   Aug-09-04 07:15 PM   #17 
  - Clothespin  stldemocrat   Aug-09-04 07:22 PM   #19 
  - LBJ?  Disturbed   Aug-09-04 07:27 PM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-09-04 07:48 PM   #25 
  - Ummm, if I remember correctly, it was in the name of "electability". God  54anickel   Aug-09-04 09:44 PM   #46 
  - Word by word and bit by bit, we are fitting the fat rich men...........  nolabels   Aug-10-04 09:12 AM   #79 
  - Ditto, but now he's our  sampsonblk   Aug-10-04 11:20 PM   #163 
  - I don't like it.  Kimber Scott   Aug-09-04 07:32 PM   #21 
  - It sure is BS  SOS   Aug-10-04 09:53 AM   #81 
  - Uhhh What the Hell??  Z-E-R-0   Aug-09-04 07:41 PM   #23 
  - Will Iraq implode before the US election?  Disturbed   Aug-09-04 07:49 PM   #26 
  - welcome to DU!  mike_c   Aug-09-04 07:50 PM   #27 
  - He Would Have Authorized an attack on Iraq...  stepnw1f   Aug-09-04 07:54 PM   #29 
  - See post #12  GeronimoSkull   Aug-09-04 08:58 PM   #38 
  - I Know I Can Because I have To  stepnw1f   Aug-09-04 09:18 PM   #42 
  - the authorization  MARALE   Aug-10-04 01:22 PM   #93 
  - Disgusting  latebloomer   Aug-09-04 08:59 PM   #39 
  - So, what's the answer here?  Charlie Brown   Aug-09-04 09:07 PM   #41 
  - Vote him in but stay on his ass!  54anickel   Aug-09-04 09:18 PM   #43 
  - I don't see much of a choice either  latebloomer   Aug-09-04 09:39 PM   #45 
  - Two-Tier Policy  PassingFair   Aug-10-04 08:45 PM   #138 
  - Its worse than that  sampsonblk   Aug-09-04 11:28 PM   #60 
  - Sickening - I'm Disgusted Too  otohara   Aug-10-04 12:41 PM   #87 
  - As much as I hate Bush, this response by Kerry may cause be to simply  freemarketer   Aug-09-04 09:31 PM   #44 
  - I may just sit this one out as well  Z-E-R-0   Aug-09-04 09:55 PM   #47 
  - In my state, Oregon  Pastiche423   Aug-09-04 10:09 PM   #49 
  - and Bush, who started this war, will be delighted  Charlie Brown   Aug-09-04 10:12 PM   #51 
     - Screw Bush, Screw Kerry and Screw the corporate entities that control them  dawgman   Aug-09-04 10:31 PM   #53 
     - ~Yawn~  Pastiche423   Aug-09-04 10:34 PM   #54 
  - Zero. I was a Vietnam Ranger Captain (67-70). I don't hold anything  freemarketer   Aug-09-04 10:19 PM   #52 
  - What is Sen. Kerry .....  Turbo   Aug-10-04 04:59 PM   #126 
  - What Is Wrong With Us?  iamjoy   Aug-09-04 10:11 PM   #50 
     - What is wrong with us?, you ask -- the same thing that was wrong in 2002  hansolsen   Aug-09-04 10:38 PM   #55 
     - You Forget 1994  iamjoy   Aug-09-04 10:44 PM   #57 
        - First time I've heard that one!  hippywife   Aug-10-04 04:48 AM   #67 
        - Clinton's first term drifted left on cultural issues - gays in military ,  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 08:02 AM   #76 
        - WRONG  arlib   Aug-10-04 02:38 PM   #102 
           - Conventional Wisdom  iamjoy   Aug-10-04 05:42 PM   #130 
     - I imagine the IRAQI PEOPLE are also sick of this fucking war!  Zhade   Aug-10-04 01:07 AM   #63 
        - But Kerry wants to take "pressure" of war off the Americans  downstairsparts   Aug-10-04 05:21 AM   #69 
  - I am VERY disappointed with Kerry.  amBushed   Aug-09-04 10:40 PM   #56 
  - Well at least this should shut the apologists up  sampsonblk   Aug-09-04 11:24 PM   #58 
  - If only  Egnever   Aug-10-04 02:45 AM   #64 
  - Never happen. They're willing to blind themselves to reality.  Zhade   Aug-10-04 04:13 PM   #121 
  - Pick an issue  Carolab   Aug-09-04 11:25 PM   #59 
  - Good point  LSK   Aug-09-04 11:37 PM   #61 
  - Sick  JackieO   Aug-10-04 12:56 AM   #62 
  - It makes it hard to vote for him  DaveSZ   Aug-10-04 03:17 AM   #66 
  - It's Been A While Since I Employed My IGNORE List  GalleryGod   Aug-10-04 03:16 AM   #65 
  - I hope you don't mean me  wicket   Aug-10-04 07:21 AM   #70 
  - I don't even understand what that means...  dawgman   Aug-10-04 07:23 AM   #71 
  - Once again, nosepin firmly in place, Will Pitt. Still firmly in place.  hippywife   Aug-10-04 04:48 AM   #68 
  - Wonderful  wackywill   Aug-10-04 07:26 AM   #72 
  - Here is the other option:  DaveSZ   Aug-10-04 07:51 AM   #74 
  - So he makes his bed and lies in it  Aidoneus   Aug-10-04 07:50 AM   #73 
  - I cannot in good conscious vote for this man.  Elginoid   Aug-10-04 08:09 AM   #77 
  - Americans are such wusses...  georgewash   Aug-10-04 10:05 AM   #83 
     - I thought that 4 years of bush would have been enough...  Elginoid   Aug-10-04 02:12 PM   #97 
  - Then I don't stand by Kerry. If these oil-stealing thugs  leesa   Aug-10-04 09:25 AM   #80 
  - Maybe we need Venezuela to invade us  Larkspur   Aug-10-04 11:33 AM   #86 
  - Pathetic. Simply pathetic.  denverbill   Aug-10-04 09:55 AM   #82 
  - There is more than one issue in this election  Libs Bite Back   Aug-10-04 10:10 AM   #84 
  - Or, we could vote for Bush, and push HIM to the left.  denverbill   Aug-10-04 10:41 AM   #85 
  - I may not vote for Kerry  ASaneGuy   Aug-10-04 01:09 PM   #91 
     - Hate to say it, but...  Turbo   Aug-10-04 05:05 PM   #129 
  - Dead.  arlib   Aug-10-04 02:49 PM   #103 
     - Bush had started the war  lizzy   Aug-10-04 02:59 PM   #105 
        - Great reasoning...  arlib   Aug-10-04 03:05 PM   #107 
           - YES  lizzy   Aug-10-04 03:38 PM   #115 
              - Losing strategy  arlib   Aug-10-04 04:02 PM   #118 
  - authority is the key word  nysooner   Aug-10-04 01:02 PM   #89 
  - Maybe I"m just arguing semantics  georgewash   Aug-10-04 01:13 PM   #92 
  - If we can't "win"  nysooner   Aug-10-04 02:54 PM   #104 
  - I agree with you wholeheartedly, and would only add that one of things I  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 08:29 PM   #137 
  - I Agree!!!  MARALE   Aug-10-04 02:37 PM   #101 
  - If it was not for the fact i hate.....  William Bloode   Aug-10-04 01:04 PM   #90 
  - REMINDER -> ABB!!!!  LSK   Aug-10-04 01:28 PM   #94 
  - Fuck. That.  Elginoid   Aug-10-04 02:14 PM   #98 
  - Well  lizzy   Aug-10-04 03:02 PM   #106 
     - I go to the polls to vote FOR someone...  Elginoid   Aug-10-04 04:03 PM   #119 
        - What a selfish response.  MirrorAshes   Aug-10-04 08:25 PM   #136 
  - my 2 cents  el_chalupa   Aug-10-04 04:02 PM   #117 
  - Why did Kerry say that?  demoman123   Aug-10-04 01:31 PM   #95 
  - So why DID the US go to war against Iraq anyways?  whosinpower   Aug-10-04 02:24 PM   #99 
  - Who the hell does he think  Jen6   Aug-10-04 03:15 PM   #108 
  - I don't think he cares WHO he's supposed to be appealing to  ima_sinnic   Aug-10-04 03:21 PM   #110 
  - ordinary, unimaginative, uninspiring --  ima_sinnic   Aug-10-04 03:19 PM   #109 
  - dog bath  lizzy   Aug-10-04 03:24 PM   #111 
  - whatever  ima_sinnic   Aug-10-04 03:27 PM   #112 
     - I'll still be voting for this  Jen6   Aug-10-04 07:50 PM   #134 
  - When was Kerry ever  nysooner   Aug-10-04 03:28 PM   #113 
     - he never was and that's why I never supported him from the start  ima_sinnic   Aug-10-04 03:32 PM   #114 
     - nysooner  Z-E-R-0   Aug-10-04 03:51 PM   #116 
        - Hmmm. Not quite.  Zhade   Aug-10-04 04:56 PM   #125 
           - thanks for the full quote  nysooner   Aug-10-04 09:07 PM   #141 
              - Considering Kerry's own advisor thinks he'd have gone into Iraq...  Zhade   Aug-10-04 09:12 PM   #142 
  - Randi Rodes  MARALE   Aug-10-04 04:03 PM   #120 
  - Good point  lizzy   Aug-10-04 04:34 PM   #122 
  - School of fish...  bushbash   Aug-10-04 04:48 PM   #123 
  - YEP, it's working  lizzy   Aug-10-04 04:51 PM   #124 
  - You know, it's quite possible to hate b*sh and NOT like Kerry.  Zhade   Aug-10-04 05:04 PM   #128 
     - A lot of us feel that way  Jen6   Aug-10-04 07:59 PM   #135 
  - What do you want from a candidate?  el_chalupa   Aug-10-04 05:04 PM   #127 
     - Labels are irrelevant, but tendencies cannot be overlooked  bushbash   Aug-10-04 06:01 PM   #131 
     - IF Bush was Kerry, but Kerry was Bush.  lizzy   Aug-10-04 06:01 PM   #132 
  - This old Dean supporter and anti war activist will vote for Kerry - once  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 09:29 PM   #143 
  - Bang on!  Domitan   Aug-10-04 09:39 PM   #144 
  - Close (with edits)  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-10-04 09:45 PM   #145 
  - Dean supported Afghanistan, did he not?  Charlie Brown   Aug-10-04 09:45 PM   #146 
  - I'm no pacifist, and even the most hardened military hawk can be against  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 10:26 PM   #154 
     - "Im not against all wars"  Charlie Brown   Aug-10-04 10:51 PM   #157 
        - You're right, I'm not anti war; but I am an antiwar activist for this war  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 11:15 PM   #162 
  - Oooooh Im scared  Uzybone   Aug-10-04 10:13 PM   #152 
     - Uzy -- easy there -- I said I will vote for kerry  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 10:37 PM   #155 
        - Shut up! Shut up!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-10-04 10:40 PM   #156 
  - So, KNOWING that the "case" for war was a pack of lies...  Darranar   Aug-10-04 09:46 PM   #147 
  - Another holier than thou circle jerk thread  Uzybone   Aug-10-04 09:49 PM   #148 
  - Why would I vote for the fucker? He doesn't represent me or my  dawgman   Aug-10-04 09:53 PM   #149 
  - Yep Bush and Kerry are the same  Uzybone   Aug-10-04 10:04 PM   #150 
  - KErry might have a slightly better environmental policy, and he  dawgman   Aug-10-04 10:10 PM   #151 
     - Slightly better on the environment?  Uzybone   Aug-10-04 10:21 PM   #153 
  - Maybe a 10 point drop in the polls is what this candidate needs right now  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 11:01 PM   #159 
  - How about coming up with a plan for Iraq that has a chance of working?  hansolsen   Aug-10-04 10:58 PM   #158 
  - I don't think thats fair.  greenohio   Aug-11-04 12:51 PM   #167 
  - kick!  wicket   Aug-11-04 07:54 AM   #164 
 

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