Eloriel
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Sun Jun-13-04 10:14 AM
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| 57. In their minds, what Bush said isn't a lie -- it's carrying legalistic |
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parsing to a whole new level, tho.
They, via these memoranda, have redefined "torture" so that what they authorized to be done during interrogations don't fit THEIR definitions. So, if that's the case, then when Bush said that what he authorized was following U.S. and international law, it merely means that he said to follow the laws according to how they interpreted them.
I think this is really important to understand. They are MANIPULATING the laws (or trying to), just as Hitler did, and in the process also trying to accrue even more power to the Executive -- unimaginable power in a so-called democracy. As one blogger put it (paraphrased), the memo virtually made Bush king. I don't think that was overstated.
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| -Interrogation abuses were 'approved at highest levels' THIS DOES IT! |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:20 AM |
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This is huge. |
Kool Kitty |
Jun-13-04 02:24 AM |
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I totally agree with you. Let's see, whom might they kill to have |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:30 AM |
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The media has been busy |
shraby |
Jun-13-04 02:33 AM |
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Unfortunately NOT the American media!! As usual! N/T |
Caliphoto |
Jun-13-04 11:15 AM |
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Bush certainly was strange at the G-8 press |
Kool Kitty |
Jun-13-04 02:37 AM |
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Amazingly, you made a lot more sense than he did. n/t |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:52 AM |
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a little bit of searching |
UpInArms |
Jun-13-04 07:46 AM |
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GREAT Find UIA ... |
Trajan |
Jun-13-04 12:34 PM |
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I would hope that all of those "memos" would be |
UpInArms |
Jun-13-04 02:01 PM |
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"MASS IMPEACHMENT"! Sounds like great to me! |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 07:21 PM |
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Great research... |
crossroads |
Jun-13-04 08:22 PM |
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In their minds, what Bush said isn't a lie -- it's carrying legalistic |
Eloriel |
Jun-13-04 10:14 AM |
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Didn't he bust out the "I don't recall?" Always a major warning sign... |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jun-13-04 11:08 AM |
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He kept saying.. |
Caliphoto |
Jun-13-04 11:19 AM |
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"He KNOWS that we KNOW that he KNOWS," Yes! How true this is! |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 07:00 PM |
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Those words remind me of Rumsfeld's press conference some time ago |
Samantha |
Jun-13-04 07:46 PM |
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Poppy parachuting tommorrow AM...and the chute doesn't open..n/t |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:42 AM |
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Bingo!!!!! and Britt Hume (according to a DUer) is going with him! n/t |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:48 AM |
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The scary part going solo (minus a chute) |
nolabels |
Jun-13-04 07:20 AM |
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Ha! We'll remember you said it first. They throw him under a bus |
JudiLyn |
Jun-13-04 02:50 AM |
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LOL!!!! |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:53 AM |
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Hey, that's woosy ... how 'bout HALO |
ElectroPrincess |
Jun-13-04 07:37 AM |
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Is Shrubby packing Poppy's chute? |
Billy_Pilgrim |
Jun-13-04 10:08 AM |
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another funeral, hmmmmm |
ashling |
Jun-13-04 05:11 PM |
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The noose is getting tighter around Dubya's neck. |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 06:45 PM |
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It's getting bigger |
Mojambo |
Jun-13-04 02:31 AM |
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You could SEE it on his face... smell the panic sweat emanating |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:33 AM |
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Asscroft and the DOJ kid both had the "Deer in headlight" look.... |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:44 AM |
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just watching that aide's eyes.... |
grasswire |
Jun-13-04 03:15 AM |
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My favorite expression though was Sen. Biden's teeth clenching responses |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 03:17 AM |
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I saw Biden talking through his teeth too.. |
Tellurian |
Jun-13-04 06:07 AM |
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Agree...he's seen the light. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jun-13-04 10:00 AM |
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Biden was soooo pissed when he did that. |
Lex |
Jun-13-04 06:39 PM |
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His expression was feral |
realpolitik |
Jun-13-04 08:03 PM |
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I think he was one of the lawyers,,, |
thecrow |
Jun-13-04 04:15 AM |
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I saw that kid! |
janx |
Jun-13-04 05:31 PM |
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You Mean That Lawyer Who Was Turning Green |
AndyTiedye |
Jun-13-04 05:21 AM |
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"You could SEE it on his face... smell the panic sweat emanating"--- |
pacoyogi |
Jun-13-04 10:39 AM |
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I've never seen a man Ashcroft's age THAT |
Jen6 |
Jun-13-04 11:05 AM |
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Not if the Screw York Times and Whoreshington Post silence it. |
The Zanti Regent |
Jun-13-04 07:10 AM |
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Ah'm George Bush and I approved this torture. |
Octafish |
Jun-13-04 08:29 PM |
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What a tongue lashing! n/t |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 09:47 PM |
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it's nice they prepared this little surprise for themselves. bushco has |
truthisfreedom |
Jun-13-04 02:45 AM |
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and yet mr. and mrs. murika will say |
mockmonkey |
Jun-13-04 02:46 AM |
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...and the boy from PA who lost his head.... |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:48 AM |
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I think it will come out that these 4 were not "truck drivers" but killers |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 02:50 AM |
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I thought that all along...maybe they recognized those mercs driving thru |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 03:15 AM |
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Americans and others rejoiced |
oneighty |
Jun-13-04 10:55 AM |
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So we finally return to the "Real News"....stay tuned folks...its going to |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:46 AM |
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NO sweeping this under their rug. |
Disturbed |
Jun-13-04 03:16 AM |
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The Common Plan (i.e., Conspiracy) to Violate Geneva Conventions |
Ewan I Bushwackers |
Jun-13-04 10:48 AM |
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I wonder what they are offering in return to not let it get out! |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 08:12 PM |
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where can i see that Ashcroft video? |
floda |
Jun-13-04 03:25 AM |
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They have had excerpts but the whole thing is on C-Span: |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 03:28 AM |
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Thanks LittleApple81 ! |
floda |
Jun-13-04 03:39 AM |
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Does anyone know this? |
Disturbed |
Jun-13-04 03:34 AM |
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Right on all counts. The published memo was a draft. The Senators |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 03:38 AM |
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I remember that boot licking carpet bagger from Utah |
Algomas |
Jun-13-04 04:22 AM |
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I think I do. |
Ewan I Bushwackers |
Jun-13-04 11:26 AM |
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The memos that Asscroft is refusing to turn over are different from this 1 |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 01:47 PM |
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Powell was stupid to reinforce the idea of "a few bad apples" |
Rebel_with_a_cause |
Jun-13-04 04:42 AM |
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Powell is a disgrace and a bootlicker. |
Disturbed |
Jun-13-04 05:19 AM |
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This is what Harry was reported to say in Oct. 2002: |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 06:31 AM |
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This would make a good picture for that article... |
Cronus |
Jun-13-04 05:36 AM |
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Actually the Telegraph |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jun-13-04 06:39 AM |
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As everyone else, I hope this materializes as the wooden stake |
skip fox |
Jun-13-04 05:39 AM |
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Yawn..... another sure fire amount of "proof"... |
TryingToWarnYou |
Jun-13-04 05:52 AM |
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CBS bringing out the torture pictures WAS THE ONLY THING |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 06:36 AM |
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CBS' long-time connection with the CIA is the key here... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jun-13-04 10:13 AM |
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Death by a thousand cuts - final straw that broke the camel's back. |
TankLV |
Jun-13-04 11:05 AM |
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Blame Bush First |
Cronus |
Jun-13-04 03:41 PM |
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True that! |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 10:23 PM |
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What goes around comes around, they say! |
0007 |
Jun-13-04 06:03 AM |
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The spooks are with us for change... |
Tellurian |
Jun-13-04 06:16 AM |
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spook games are being planned 0007 |
seemslikeadream |
Jun-13-04 06:54 AM |
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Know whatcha mean jellybean! |
0007 |
Jun-13-04 07:14 AM |
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I'm sure you had. Just my way of sayin' hi |
seemslikeadream |
Jun-13-04 07:30 AM |
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And those |
are_we_united_yet |
Jun-13-04 06:39 AM |
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And this is what we get when we have a man like Bush in. |
izzie |
Jun-13-04 07:07 AM |
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With ronnie dead and planted, |
lil-petunia |
Jun-13-04 07:18 AM |
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"A Fish Rots from its Head" - Nelson Report |
Crisco |
Jun-13-04 07:22 AM |
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It has to be CBS again!.... |
leftchick |
Jun-13-04 07:26 AM |
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The leaks are not only continuing, they are getting bigger in magnitude! |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jun-13-04 09:58 AM |
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Another Link In The Chain |
Beetwasher |
Jun-13-04 10:34 AM |
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I'll believe it when I see/hear/read it |
malachibk |
Jun-13-04 11:02 AM |
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Isn't it amazing how they weasel out? But things are coming to a |
LittleApple81 |
Jun-13-04 11:26 AM |
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Bush & Co. are so dumb and transparent.. |
Caliphoto |
Jun-13-04 11:17 AM |
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Just wait til Mrs. Cleaver hears about the rape of children |
JellyBean1 |
Jun-13-04 11:49 AM |
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Mama's are going to be the key in this election... |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:23 PM |
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Drum them all out of office! |
hightime |
Jun-13-04 12:36 PM |
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Drum them all into JAIL!!!!! n/t |
Pachamama |
Jun-13-04 02:27 PM |
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Jeruselem Post also on the attack |
lil-petunia |
Jun-13-04 02:41 PM |
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FWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII........BOOM! |
Mokito |
Jun-13-04 05:49 PM |
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"..an American television network...."....Nickoldeon? |
Waverley_Hills_Hiker |
Jun-13-04 05:51 PM |
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Maybe I'm just in a pessimistic mood |
scmirage |
Jun-13-04 05:54 PM |
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"unlawful combatants"...what a crock of... |
Q |
Jun-13-04 05:56 PM |
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Yuppppyyy...the neo-cons will have strokes, heart attacks, and more! |
Tight_rope |
Jun-13-04 06:33 PM |
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Yep |
DaveSZ |
Jun-13-04 07:19 PM |
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Extremely damning for the WH... |
crossroads |
Jun-13-04 08:18 PM |
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Everything with this administration is always so secret |
young_at_heart |
Jun-13-04 08:41 PM |
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no blow job, no impeachment |
Triana |
Jun-13-04 08:51 PM |
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The fallback bulwark this one |
DrBB |
Jun-13-04 09:35 PM |
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And meanwhile at Camp X-Ray |
MetaTrope |
Jun-13-04 10:27 PM |
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