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Interrogation abuses were 'approved at highest levels' THIS DOES IT!
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Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 02:31 AM by LittleApple81
By Julian Coman in Washington
(Filed: 13/06/2004)

New evidence that the physical abuse of detainees in Iraq and at Guantanamo Bay was authorised at the top of the Bush administration will emerge in Washington this week, adding further to pressure on the White House.

The Telegraph understands that four confidential Red Cross documents implicating senior Pentagon civilians in the Abu Ghraib scandal have been passed to an American television network, which is preparing to make them public shortly.

According to lawyers familiar with the Red Cross reports, they will contradict previous testimony by senior Pentagon officials who have claimed that the abuse in the Abu Ghraib prison was an isolated incident.

"There are some extremely damaging documents around, which link senior figures to the abuses," said Scott Horton, the former chairman of the New York Bar Association, who has been advising Pentagon lawyers unhappy at the administration's approach. "The biggest bombs in this case have yet to be dropped."

A string of leaked government memos over the past few days has revealed that President George W Bush was advised by Justice Department officials and the White House lawyer, Alberto Gonzalez, that Geneva Conventions on torture did not apply to "unlawful combatants", captured during the war on terror.

Members of Congress are now demanding access to all White House memos on interrogation techniques, a request so far refused by the United States attorney-general, John Ashcroft.

much more at link (worth a read!)
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  -Interrogation abuses were 'approved at highest levels' THIS DOES IT! LittleApple81  Jun-13-04 02:20 AM   #0 
  - This is huge.  Kool Kitty   Jun-13-04 02:24 AM   #1 
  - I totally agree with you. Let's see, whom might they kill to have  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:30 AM   #2 
     - The media has been busy  shraby   Jun-13-04 02:33 AM   #5 
     - Unfortunately NOT the American media!! As usual! N/T  Caliphoto   Jun-13-04 11:15 AM   #66 
     - Bush certainly was strange at the G-8 press  Kool Kitty   Jun-13-04 02:37 AM   #6 
     - Amazingly, you made a lot more sense than he did. n/t  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:52 AM   #16 
     - a little bit of searching  UpInArms   Jun-13-04 07:46 AM   #52 
        - GREAT Find UIA ...  Trajan   Jun-13-04 12:34 PM   #72 
        - I would hope that all of those "memos" would be  UpInArms   Jun-13-04 02:01 PM   #75 
        - "MASS IMPEACHMENT"! Sounds like great to me!  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 07:21 PM   #91 
        - Great research...  crossroads   Jun-13-04 08:22 PM   #96 
     - In their minds, what Bush said isn't a lie -- it's carrying legalistic  Eloriel   Jun-13-04 10:14 AM   #57 
     - Didn't he bust out the "I don't recall?" Always a major warning sign...  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jun-13-04 11:08 AM   #65 
     - He kept saying..  Caliphoto   Jun-13-04 11:19 AM   #68 
     - "He KNOWS that we KNOW that he KNOWS," Yes! How true this is!  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 07:00 PM   #89 
        - Those words remind me of Rumsfeld's press conference some time ago  Samantha   Jun-13-04 07:46 PM   #92 
     - Poppy parachuting tommorrow AM...and the chute doesn't open..n/t  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:42 AM   #7 
     - Bingo!!!!! and Britt Hume (according to a DUer) is going with him! n/t  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:48 AM   #12 
     - The scary part going solo (minus a chute)  nolabels   Jun-13-04 07:20 AM   #47 
     - Ha! We'll remember you said it first. They throw him under a bus  JudiLyn   Jun-13-04 02:50 AM   #14 
     - LOL!!!!  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:53 AM   #17 
     - Hey, that's woosy ... how 'bout HALO  ElectroPrincess   Jun-13-04 07:37 AM   #51 
     - Is Shrubby packing Poppy's chute?  Billy_Pilgrim   Jun-13-04 10:08 AM   #55 
     - another funeral, hmmmmm  ashling   Jun-13-04 05:11 PM   #80 
     - The noose is getting tighter around Dubya's neck.  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 06:45 PM   #88 
  - It's getting bigger  Mojambo   Jun-13-04 02:31 AM   #3 
  - You could SEE it on his face... smell the panic sweat emanating  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:33 AM   #4 
  - Asscroft and the DOJ kid both had the "Deer in headlight" look....  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:44 AM   #8 
  - just watching that aide's eyes....  grasswire   Jun-13-04 03:15 AM   #18 
     - My favorite expression though was Sen. Biden's teeth clenching responses  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 03:17 AM   #21 
     - I saw Biden talking through his teeth too..  Tellurian   Jun-13-04 06:07 AM   #36 
        - Agree...he's seen the light.  Media_Lies_Daily   Jun-13-04 10:00 AM   #54 
        - Biden was soooo pissed when he did that.  Lex   Jun-13-04 06:39 PM   #87 
        - His expression was feral  realpolitik   Jun-13-04 08:03 PM   #93 
     - I think he was one of the lawyers,,,  thecrow   Jun-13-04 04:15 AM   #27 
     - I saw that kid!  janx   Jun-13-04 05:31 PM   #81 
  - You Mean That Lawyer Who Was Turning Green  AndyTiedye   Jun-13-04 05:21 AM   #31 
  - "You could SEE it on his face... smell the panic sweat emanating"---  pacoyogi   Jun-13-04 10:39 AM   #59 
  - I've never seen a man Ashcroft's age THAT  Jen6   Jun-13-04 11:05 AM   #63 
  - Not if the Screw York Times and Whoreshington Post silence it.  The Zanti Regent   Jun-13-04 07:10 AM   #44 
  - Ah'm George Bush and I approved this torture.  Octafish   Jun-13-04 08:29 PM   #97 
  - What a tongue lashing! n/t  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 09:47 PM   #101 
  - it's nice they prepared this little surprise for themselves. bushco has  truthisfreedom   Jun-13-04 02:45 AM   #9 
  - and yet mr. and mrs. murika will say  mockmonkey   Jun-13-04 02:46 AM   #10 
  - ...and the boy from PA who lost his head....  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:48 AM   #13 
  - I think it will come out that these 4 were not "truck drivers" but killers  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 02:50 AM   #15 
     - I thought that all along...maybe they recognized those mercs driving thru  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 03:15 AM   #19 
     - Americans and others rejoiced  oneighty   Jun-13-04 10:55 AM   #61 
  - So we finally return to the "Real News"....stay tuned folks...its going to  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:46 AM   #11 
  - NO sweeping this under their rug.  Disturbed   Jun-13-04 03:16 AM   #20 
     - The Common Plan (i.e., Conspiracy) to Violate Geneva Conventions  Ewan I Bushwackers   Jun-13-04 10:48 AM   #60 
     - I wonder what they are offering in return to not let it get out!  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 08:12 PM   #94 
  - where can i see that Ashcroft video?  floda   Jun-13-04 03:25 AM   #22 
  - They have had excerpts but the whole thing is on C-Span:  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 03:28 AM   #23 
     - Thanks LittleApple81 !  floda   Jun-13-04 03:39 AM   #26 
  - Does anyone know this?  Disturbed   Jun-13-04 03:34 AM   #24 
  - Right on all counts. The published memo was a draft. The Senators  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 03:38 AM   #25 
  - I remember that boot licking carpet bagger from Utah  Algomas   Jun-13-04 04:22 AM   #28 
  - I think I do.  Ewan I Bushwackers   Jun-13-04 11:26 AM   #70 
  - The memos that Asscroft is refusing to turn over are different from this 1  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 01:47 PM   #74 
  - Powell was stupid to reinforce the idea of "a few bad apples"  Rebel_with_a_cause   Jun-13-04 04:42 AM   #29 
  - Powell is a disgrace and a bootlicker.  Disturbed   Jun-13-04 05:19 AM   #30 
     - This is what Harry was reported to say in Oct. 2002:  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 06:31 AM   #38 
  - This would make a good picture for that article...  Cronus   Jun-13-04 05:36 AM   #32 
  - Actually the Telegraph  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-13-04 06:39 AM   #41 
  - As everyone else, I hope this materializes as the wooden stake  skip fox   Jun-13-04 05:39 AM   #33 
  - Yawn..... another sure fire amount of "proof"...  TryingToWarnYou   Jun-13-04 05:52 AM   #34 
  - CBS bringing out the torture pictures WAS THE ONLY THING  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 06:36 AM   #39 
  - CBS' long-time connection with the CIA is the key here...  Media_Lies_Daily   Jun-13-04 10:13 AM   #56 
  - Death by a thousand cuts - final straw that broke the camel's back.  TankLV   Jun-13-04 11:05 AM   #64 
  - Blame Bush First  Cronus   Jun-13-04 03:41 PM   #79 
  - True that!  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 10:23 PM   #102 
  - What goes around comes around, they say!  0007   Jun-13-04 06:03 AM   #35 
  - The spooks are with us for change...  Tellurian   Jun-13-04 06:16 AM   #37 
  - spook games are being planned 0007  seemslikeadream   Jun-13-04 06:54 AM   #42 
     - Know whatcha mean jellybean!  0007   Jun-13-04 07:14 AM   #45 
        - I'm sure you had. Just my way of sayin' hi  seemslikeadream   Jun-13-04 07:30 AM   #50 
  - And those  are_we_united_yet   Jun-13-04 06:39 AM   #40 
  - And this is what we get when we have a man like Bush in.  izzie   Jun-13-04 07:07 AM   #43 
  - With ronnie dead and planted,  lil-petunia   Jun-13-04 07:18 AM   #46 
  - "A Fish Rots from its Head" - Nelson Report  Crisco   Jun-13-04 07:22 AM   #48 
  - It has to be CBS again!....  leftchick   Jun-13-04 07:26 AM   #49 
  - The leaks are not only continuing, they are getting bigger in magnitude!  Media_Lies_Daily   Jun-13-04 09:58 AM   #53 
  - Another Link In The Chain  Beetwasher   Jun-13-04 10:34 AM   #58 
  - I'll believe it when I see/hear/read it  malachibk   Jun-13-04 11:02 AM   #62 
  - Isn't it amazing how they weasel out? But things are coming to a  LittleApple81   Jun-13-04 11:26 AM   #69 
  - Bush & Co. are so dumb and transparent..  Caliphoto   Jun-13-04 11:17 AM   #67 
  - Just wait til Mrs. Cleaver hears about the rape of children  JellyBean1   Jun-13-04 11:49 AM   #71 
  - Mama's are going to be the key in this election...  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:23 PM   #76 
  - Drum them all out of office!  hightime   Jun-13-04 12:36 PM   #73 
  - Drum them all into JAIL!!!!! n/t  Pachamama   Jun-13-04 02:27 PM   #77 
  - Jeruselem Post also on the attack  lil-petunia   Jun-13-04 02:41 PM   #78 
  - " American television network...."....Nickoldeon?  Waverley_Hills_Hiker   Jun-13-04 05:51 PM   #83 
  - Maybe I'm just in a pessimistic mood  scmirage   Jun-13-04 05:54 PM   #84 
  - "unlawful combatants"...what a crock of...  Q   Jun-13-04 05:56 PM   #85 
  - Yuppppyyy...the neo-cons will have strokes, heart attacks, and more!  Tight_rope   Jun-13-04 06:33 PM   #86 
  - Yep  DaveSZ   Jun-13-04 07:19 PM   #90 
  - Extremely damning for the WH...  crossroads   Jun-13-04 08:18 PM   #95 
  - Everything with this administration is always so secret  young_at_heart   Jun-13-04 08:41 PM   #98 
  - no blow job, no impeachment  Triana   Jun-13-04 08:51 PM   #99 
  - The fallback bulwark this one  DrBB   Jun-13-04 09:35 PM   #100 
  - And meanwhile at Camp X-Ray  MetaTrope   Jun-13-04 10:27 PM   #103 

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