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Mon Jun-07-04 11:15 PM
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| 13. It's too bad that this is coming out this week, |
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because it's "all-Reagan, all the time" for the foreseeable future. Well, Dub got what he wanted-a dictatorship.
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| -WP: Memo Offered Justification for Use of Torture |
kskiska |
Jun-07-04 09:57 PM |
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Personally, I'm flabbergasted that it's taken this long. |
Kagemusha |
Jun-07-04 10:04 PM |
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Shock and awe no more. Numb, yes. ........... |
goforit |
Jun-08-04 04:20 PM |
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"The actions of a few" Actions that just happen to be covered by |
awake |
Jun-07-04 10:18 PM |
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let's not forget that most of those "suspects..." |
mike_c |
Jun-07-04 10:24 PM |
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This means that bush signed a "Presidential Finding" or Executive |
Spazito |
Jun-07-04 10:27 PM |
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The President -- ALONE -- can OVERRIDE the law ... |
maryallen |
Jun-07-04 10:50 PM |
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But the law of the land IS the Geneva Conventions according to |
Spazito |
Jun-07-04 11:02 PM |
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That's what I'm saying: |
maryallen |
Jun-07-04 11:21 PM |
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All treaties become the law of the land. |
alfredo |
Jun-08-04 12:08 AM |
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There really is a river called the Rubicon |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jun-08-04 08:07 AM |
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Could you give me an explanation of Rubicon? |
goforit |
Jun-08-04 04:27 PM |
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The Rubicon is the river |
Sophree |
Jun-08-04 07:25 PM |
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Rubicon explained |
GarySeven |
Jun-08-04 07:27 PM |
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And it will come out, too |
LizW |
Jun-08-04 08:02 AM |
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I agree, if this is allowed to stand... |
Spazito |
Jun-08-04 08:22 AM |
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So...Bush signed a presidential directive authorizing the use of torture |
ElementaryPenguin |
Jun-08-04 05:46 PM |
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So when does Ashcroft get to torture liberals and anyone else |
neverforget |
Jun-07-04 10:28 PM |
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And this is their master plan...... |
goforit |
Jun-08-04 04:35 PM |
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So, what is the legal definition of a federal employee? |
Tellurian |
Jun-07-04 10:46 PM |
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50 leaked pages of government approved smoking guns! |
hedda_foil |
Jun-07-04 10:46 PM |
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wonder who the "deep throat" is this time??? |
maddezmom |
Jun-08-04 07:01 AM |
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As there have been mutiple deaths under interrogations at different sites |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jun-08-04 09:40 PM |
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No surprise... |
cosmokramer |
Jun-07-04 10:53 PM |
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You don't suppose . . . |
gratuitous |
Jun-07-04 11:02 PM |
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If they believed what they were doing was legal and ... |
Spazito |
Jun-07-04 11:06 PM |
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No, of coarse not, |
Timefortruth |
Jun-08-04 07:38 AM |
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It's too bad that this is coming out this week, |
Kool Kitty |
Jun-07-04 11:15 PM |
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Reagan will fade soon, but the Abu Ghraib can never die, it will out live |
0007 |
Jun-08-04 08:12 AM |
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Actually, I think you are right. |
Kool Kitty |
Jun-08-04 02:57 PM |
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Abu Gharib is not going away. If you heard the Ashscroft hearings today |
keithyboy |
Jun-08-04 04:15 PM |
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I just finished watching the Ashcroft hearings |
elf |
Jun-08-04 10:33 PM |
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Well, if Kerry is smart, he will be pointing out that we are screwing |
Gloria |
Jun-08-04 02:01 AM |
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Either this was in the |
shraby |
Jun-08-04 02:23 AM |
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Time for a cherubic little quote from alleged human Alberto Gonzalez |
PurityOfEssence |
Jun-08-04 02:43 AM |
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He said something totally different |
JudiLyn |
Jun-08-04 04:23 AM |
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Torture: Another blow for Rumsfeld? |
JudiLyn |
Jun-08-04 07:10 AM |
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see the Times reporting |
gottaB |
Jun-08-04 07:25 AM |
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That Times article is on the front page |
gristy |
Jun-08-04 07:37 AM |
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clearly a war crime |
gottaB |
Jun-08-04 07:55 AM |
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Oh, wow, look at the NYT go |
party_line |
Jun-08-04 08:08 AM |
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Lots of folks carrying this story today |
gristy |
Jun-08-04 07:50 AM |
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Anything about it on tv news yet? |
LizW |
Jun-08-04 08:04 AM |
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At the very least the author(s) of the memo should be fired. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-08-04 08:02 AM |
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That's not going to happen |
gristy |
Jun-08-04 08:08 AM |
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If they gave him bad advice they should be fired. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-08-04 09:26 AM |
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Lawyers Decided Bans on Torture Didn't Bind Bush (NYT) |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jun-08-04 08:05 AM |
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By saying that Bu$hCo is above the law |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jun-08-04 08:14 AM |
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Holy shit! Leahy asked Ashcroft directly whether the President... |
Spazito |
Jun-08-04 10:02 AM |
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Are these the docs he won't turn over to congress? |
jdjkkse |
Jun-08-04 03:31 PM |
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I think we should stop troubling ourselves over all this torture and watch |
Mayberry Machiavelli |
Jun-08-04 03:51 PM |
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That moment |
elf |
Jun-08-04 10:45 PM |
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Kick |
Spazito |
Jun-08-04 11:26 AM |
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Key item is buried in the story |
GarySeven |
Jun-08-04 11:31 AM |
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Good catch. |
Kool Kitty |
Jun-08-04 03:02 PM |
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These THUGS are WAR CRIMINALS |
saigon68 |
Jun-08-04 03:00 PM |
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US has interrogation 'specials' |
struggle4progress |
Jun-08-04 04:08 PM |
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We need to keep this thread |
Wubette |
Jun-08-04 04:22 PM |
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Who's gonna appoint an Independent Investigator for Justice Dept? |
goforit |
Jun-08-04 04:22 PM |
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False Testimony under oath? |
Disturbed |
Jun-08-04 04:40 PM |
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Ashcroft Says Bush Rejects Use of Torture |
DainBramaged |
Jun-08-04 05:08 PM |
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A major KICK!! |
ElementaryPenguin |
Jun-08-04 06:51 PM |
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Very, very confusing. |
Miss Authoritiva |
Jun-08-04 07:01 PM |
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It certainly won't get Bushler off the hook! |
ElementaryPenguin |
Jun-08-04 07:05 PM |
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Not so confusing |
GarySeven |
Jun-08-04 07:21 PM |
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Drip, drip, drip |
DainBramaged |
Jun-08-04 07:58 PM |
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Would the NATO commandos have to hold off until the |
Miss Authoritiva |
Jun-08-04 08:53 PM |
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Commandos in zodiacs |
GarySeven |
Jun-08-04 10:11 PM |
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Kick It Up. |
David Zephyr |
Jun-08-04 09:29 PM |
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