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71. No, you ARE done. You really don't get it do you?....
The military command, to include Rummy and the rest of the NeoCons have consistently lied about every single issue that has been brought before the public. They've lied about the attacks they've made on civilians, they've lied about the number of U. S. dead and wounded, they've lied about the real reasons that they dragged the U. S. into a war they were warned repeatedly not to start, and they've lied about the torture taking place in the prisons and other camps for "detainees".

Based on the above track record, why should we believe anything they tell us? You can pretend to be "intellectually honest" as long as you want, and you can also complain about politically aligned websites and they way each deals with information, but you can't change the fact that the military and the members of the NeoCon Junta have lied to us daily and continue to lie every chance they get.

Yes, there's a possibility that the military is not lying this time. The smart money says that's a REALLY, REALLY bad bet.
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  -GU: 'US soldiers started to shoot us, one by one' (Wedding massacre) grytpype  May-20-04 09:11 PM   #0 
  - pig bastards....  mike_c   May-20-04 09:14 PM   #1 
  - I don't understand why it is so hard for people to  jdjkkse   May-20-04 09:15 PM   #2 
  - They always deny! Every wedding party, every civilian jetliner  jobycom   May-20-04 09:24 PM   #12 
  - WAR CRIMINALS  saigon68   May-20-04 09:17 PM   #3 
  - Um, general, what age do you think men marry at?  jobycom   May-20-04 09:17 PM   #4 
  - A few points  Sirveri   May-20-04 09:18 PM   #5 
  - Its not intentional, just criminally negligent. Just like the killing of  loathesomeshrub   May-20-04 09:21 PM   #7 
  - q: why did the chicken start the war?  UpInArms   May-20-04 09:21 PM   #8 
  - Remember when an American fighter plane cut the cable of  LittleApple81   May-20-04 09:22 PM   #9 
  - Or in the 1980's when US shot down an Iran passenger plane?  struggle4progress   May-20-04 10:17 PM   #46 
  - Perhaps, just perhaps, they made a mistake  pbl   May-20-04 09:23 PM   #10 
  - What, do you think they are making this all up?  grytpype   May-20-04 09:26 PM   #14 
  - nonono  Sirveri   May-20-04 09:32 PM   #24 
  - I have heard that the state of denial is  UpInArms   May-20-04 09:39 PM   #29 
  - It's okay, "Sirveri",...you're on a very well-informed board,...  Just Me   May-20-04 09:41 PM   #30 
  - What's your problem with the "Guardian"?  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:07 PM   #41 
  - slight  Sirveri   May-20-04 10:24 PM   #48 
     - So, it's easier for you to just claim guilt by association...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:35 PM   #52 
     - hmpf  Sirveri   May-20-04 10:39 PM   #53 
        - What "valid" points did you actually make in your post?....  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:54 PM   #59 
        - Let me clarify  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:03 PM   #60 
           - Actually, I've been prepared to expect little or no depth from your...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 11:23 PM   #66 
              - Sure then  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:33 PM   #69 
                 - Ah, yes....the old "neither one of us knows what we're talking about"...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 11:53 PM   #75 
                    - yawn  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:57 PM   #77 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 12:05 AM   #81 
                          - Well...  Sirveri   May-21-04 12:10 AM   #84 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 12:14 AM   #86 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 02:53 AM   #107 
     - Well, the British are our last real allies in this misguided travesty...  VolcanoJen   May-20-04 11:38 PM   #70 
     - "...pretty shitty newspaper in SF"????  Hell Hath No Fury   May-21-04 10:37 AM   #124 
  - Just Like  atreides1   May-21-04 12:28 AM   #92 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 02:28 AM   #104 
  - Yeah, his fucking profile is a huge joke.  Zhade   May-21-04 03:44 AM   #114 
  - problems with the Guardian as a source??? you must live in FAUX land  bobbieinok   May-21-04 03:37 PM   #141 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-20-04 09:33 PM   #25 
  - Please explain.  rog   May-20-04 09:28 PM   # 
  - Well you know...they ain't fair and balanced like FOX.  RapidCreek   May-21-04 02:59 AM   #109 
  - trigger-happy criminal negligence  rumguy   May-20-04 09:30 PM   #20 
  - A few answers  jobycom   May-20-04 09:30 PM   #21 
  - Chill, I hate Bush  Sirveri   May-20-04 09:36 PM   # 
     - No one is saying they purposely hit the wedding, we are saying  jobycom   May-20-04 09:43 PM   #31 
     - OK well  Sirveri   May-20-04 10:17 PM   #47 
     - Given our government's record, it's an easy call as to who is lying  jobycom   May-20-04 10:27 PM   #49 
        - Easy call or judgement call?  Sirveri   May-20-04 10:42 PM   #55 
           - Link to information about traditional Arab wedding  othermeans   May-20-04 11:05 PM   #61 
           - Would you like to buy a clue?...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 11:12 PM   #63 
           - Almost done  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:28 PM   #67 
              - No, you ARE done. You really don't get it do you?....  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 11:43 PM   #71 
              - Oh, why don't you be honest  jobycom   May-20-04 11:57 PM   #76 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 12:05 AM   #80 
                 - You may call it "forcing dialogue" while most of us view...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-21-04 12:10 AM   #83 
                 - So clarify my interpretations  Sirveri   May-21-04 12:19 AM   #88 
                 - This isn't "he said, she said"  jobycom   May-21-04 12:27 AM   #91 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 12:31 AM   #93 
                 - This stuff about "I like to play Devil's Advocate" is just cover for a  Mayberry Machiavelli   May-21-04 12:36 AM   # 
                 - sigh  Sirveri   May-21-04 12:42 AM   #96 
                 - You do eh?  RapidCreek   May-21-04 03:21 AM   #111 
              - This administrations PATTERN OF BEHAVIOUR...n/t  ngGale   May-21-04 01:11 AM   #100 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   May-20-04 11:16 PM   #64 
     - I think it's possible that the US military purposely hit the wedding  Randers   May-20-04 11:50 PM   #73 
        - Remember the "Hussein" bunker in Gulf War I?  jobycom   May-21-04 12:06 AM   #82 
           - Seems to me  Randers   May-21-04 12:17 AM   #87 
           - we've been here before  minkyboodle   May-21-04 12:33 AM   #94 
     - Hey, you asked the question, pal. If you don't like the answers you...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:30 PM   #51 
     - Why did the NeoCon Junta start this war?  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:19 PM   #65 
     - Just as I thought...there weren't any good reasons. You've thrown...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 11:32 PM   #68 
        - Excuse me  Sirveri   May-20-04 11:43 PM   #72 
     - damn  seekthetruth   May-21-04 12:23 AM   #89 
     - Large gatherings of people are a threat  exploited   May-20-04 10:48 PM   #58 
     - And those children won't grow up to be "terrorists" either!  kimchi   May-21-04 11:31 AM   #128 
     - Our Hero!  0007   May-21-04 06:25 AM   #119 
     - Stupid, idiotic negligence ?  Tinoire   May-21-04 11:45 AM   #131 
  - Do you really believe that this war is about benefiting us?  Rex   May-20-04 09:31 PM   #22 
  - A memorable quote from Spock applies  daleo   May-20-04 09:45 PM   #33 
  - lets see, the military has a one liner (suspected terrorists) and...  AussieInCA   May-20-04 09:51 PM   #35 
  - And why do YOU suspect the "Guardian" of lying?...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:06 PM   #40 
  - and where is the great US press investigative reporterson this?  AussieInCA   May-20-04 10:08 PM   #42 
  - Shoot first, ask questions later.  Doctor Smith   May-20-04 10:13 PM   #44 
  - Red cross already condemned this for disprportionate use of force  AussieInCA   May-20-04 10:16 PM   #45 
  - Got any problems with the Guardian?  ze_dscherman   May-21-04 01:05 AM   #98 
  - The Guardian is highly reputable news source..  dudeness   May-21-04 01:20 AM   #102 
  - Why kill 15 thousand innocent Iraqi's?  RapidCreek   May-21-04 02:47 AM   #106 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-21-04 03:40 AM   #113 
  - It's viewed by military planners...  JSJ   May-21-04 05:44 AM   #115 
  - Sirveri, could you explain your sig line please?  kimchi   May-21-04 11:23 AM   #127 
  - may heaven help us all :(  UpInArms   May-20-04 09:20 PM   #6 
  - Of course. That solves everything. What we don't see doesn't hurt  loathesomeshrub   May-20-04 09:27 PM   #15 
  - What's the goddamned difference right now...  grytpype   May-20-04 09:23 PM   #11 
  - I can't think of one.  jobycom   May-20-04 09:31 PM   #23 
  - I'm trying to understand the difference, too  Politicub   May-20-04 10:28 PM   #50 
  - I'm not sure our people are trying to avoid killing anything at all...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-20-04 10:39 PM   #54 
  - To be true,  ze_dscherman   May-21-04 03:06 AM   #110 
  - I think I might leave America soon........  Th1onein   May-20-04 09:24 PM   #13 
  - Take me with you. eom  brucefan   May-21-04 02:07 AM   #103 
  - They hate us for our freedom (and also because we take over their country,  milkyway   May-20-04 09:28 PM   #16 
  - winning the hearts and minds  rumguy   May-20-04 09:28 PM   #17 
  - Pathetic, tragic,...a disaster,...  Just Me   May-20-04 09:37 PM   #28 
  - Major General James Mattis has lied before  riverwalker   May-20-04 09:29 PM   #18 
  - Yes, I saw Gen. Kimmitt in full denial mode on the evening news!  Tellurian   May-20-04 09:29 PM   #19 
  - Major Gen Mattis must be guilty  LiberalFighter   May-20-04 09:34 PM   #26 
  - This is just so unbearably horrible.  zbird   May-20-04 09:55 PM   #36 
  - Evil or just horribly ignorant of local conditions and culture?  daleo   May-20-04 09:36 PM   #27 
  - I am sickened beyond words.  democrank   May-20-04 09:43 PM   #32 
  - This entire article, from the eyewitness accounts  pbl   May-20-04 09:46 PM   #34 
  - "I don't have to apologise..."  Kanzeon   May-20-04 09:59 PM   #37 
  - no need to apologize = no accountability (just like the abuse scandal)  AussieInCA   May-20-04 10:06 PM   #39 
  - Eleven women and 14 children killed  OKNancy   May-20-04 10:04 PM   #38 
  - Where did the intelligence come from?  dansolo   May-20-04 10:10 PM   #43 
  - From Chalabi.  TrueStory   May-21-04 06:20 AM   #118 
  - Good grief, why question the mentality of why this would happen and  acmavm   May-20-04 10:46 PM   #56 
  - Bush's' ignorance, arrogance and incompetence has trickled down!  Tight_rope   May-20-04 10:48 PM   #57 
  - "zey ver partisans"  leftofthedial   May-20-04 11:07 PM   #62 
  - Wait a minute here... change of facts?  PotatoBoy   May-20-04 11:52 PM   #74 
  - Don't know who to believe? Here's a clue...  Media_Lies_Daily   May-21-04 12:00 AM   #78 
     - How do you know for sure what's truth or not?  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 12:04 AM   #79 
     - You didn't answer my question, did you?....  Media_Lies_Daily   May-21-04 12:12 AM   #85 
     - I answered your question..  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 10:08 AM   #123 
     - those tricky leftists  minkyboodle   May-21-04 12:25 AM   #90 
     - The stack of dead children shown on the nightly news...  ezmojason   May-21-04 02:37 AM   #105 
     - Fabricated by leftists?  ze_dscherman   May-21-04 03:35 AM   #112 
        - I expected these kinds of responses  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 09:55 AM   #121 
           - OK, gimme a break!  BritDem   May-21-04 01:30 PM   #133 
           - Us? That's the best one so far. n/t  Tinoire   May-21-04 03:33 PM   #139 
     - I know  Sirveri   May-21-04 12:36 AM   #95 
  - OMG If I have to hear one more rationalization by the...  ngGale   May-21-04 12:57 AM   #97 
  - I feel physically ill reading this  fizzana   May-21-04 01:08 AM   #99 
  - war criminals..  dudeness   May-21-04 01:14 AM   #101 
  - This guy is a true idiot  TheLastMohican   May-21-04 02:55 AM   #108 
  - THICK HEADED??? YES THEY are slow brutish types  saigon68   May-21-04 05:59 AM   #117 
  - Report by the BBC on funeral of the singer, additional testimonials  ze_dscherman   May-21-04 05:58 AM   #116 
  - What the hell is this crap  lumpy   May-21-04 09:51 AM   #120 
  - If they weren't part of the opposition before the Rakat and Sabah  bleedingheart   May-21-04 09:56 AM   #122 
  - OK, here's my theory: these people just hate weddings, period.  Plaid Adder   May-21-04 10:37 AM   #125 
  - It appears to me  narcjen   May-21-04 11:15 AM   #126 
  - Military Enforcement of No Gay Weddings?  Ezlivin   May-21-04 11:37 AM   #129 
  - What kind of fucking nation do we live in - that accepts this monstrous  ElementaryPenguin   May-21-04 11:45 AM   #130 
  - US to Iraq: all little brown people living in the desert deserve to die  jpak   May-21-04 11:56 AM   #132 
  - Spell it out for me..why would US troops do this?  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 02:29 PM   #134 
  - Don't seek for an evil explanation  gratuitous   May-21-04 02:47 PM   #135 
  - What, the soldiers were blind??  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 02:55 PM   #137 
     - No, but you keep asking for "proof"  gratuitous   May-21-04 03:13 PM   #138 
        - Soldiers ran around in total darkness?  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 03:34 PM   #140 
           - I shot right past ashamed about three weeks ago . . .  gratuitous   May-21-04 04:10 PM   #142 
           - As much as I hate to say it..  PotatoBoy   May-21-04 04:16 PM   #143 
           - Those night vision goggles make Arabs look . .  msmcghee   May-21-04 04:49 PM   #146 
  - incompetence or stereotyped 'hate' out of control..take your pick  AussieInCA   May-21-04 02:52 PM   #136 
  - My ancestors killed many more women and children  ze_dscherman   May-21-04 04:52 PM   #147 
  - Very disturbing  Frangible   May-21-04 04:28 PM   #144 
  - Hey sirveri . .  msmcghee   May-21-04 04:43 PM   #145 
 

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