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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-12 11:19 AM
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11. To quote Bubba, "I feel your pain."
I do not feel that posting impacts the political process very much. However, I began posting at DU in 2008 and have seen posters post about changing their minds as a result of things they read on the board. Not many, but some.

And if you look at something like Romney's winning Iowa (allegedly) by eight votes, maybe even a few changed minds do matter. And they matter more so if they, in turn, change a few other minds, either in real life or on other boards.

On the other hand, I have learned a lot posting at DU. Sadly, a lot of the posters from whom I learned most no longer post at DU, but, it is an ever-changing bunch and other posters will come along, presumably. And, as long as the climate fosters discussion, there is opportunity to learn.

So, I think we MAY be able to impact the political process by posting and we ourselves may be impacted politically by posting.

However, I, too, have been struggling with the amount of time I spend posting. I think it can be a way of feeling that you are doing something meaningful and important, while it may be an excuse to keep sitting at your keyboard in your comfy home, or an excuse to divert from work at your office (or home office).

Are we able to impact the political process at all? Maybe, but probably not in the same ways that we used to--i.e., by making our wishes known to our elected officials.

That used to work, when they thought that the way to get elected or re-elected votes was by keeping a majority of voters happy. Now, IMO,k they think--and with reason--that the way to get elected is to buy--or have a PAC buy-- expensive TV and radio ads. And they think that because it seems to work.

As long as that is the case, we can "sign" online petitions and call their offices until we are numb and it won't matter all that much unless we can donate or raise ad-buying kind of money, or we can deliver as many votes as TV ads deliver.

Bottom line, I do think those of us who cannot donate hundreds of thousands or, more like it, millions may still be able to impact the political process. But we have to find other ways to do it than the ways that used to work for constitutents in 1945. Our paradigms have to shift along with the changing times, just like the paradigm of the elected officials has changed from voters to donors.

Do I know how? Not yet, but, for me, that discussion is worth having with intelligent and people who want from elected officials the same kinds of things that I want (at least the same ballpark).

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  -Four GOP candidates fail to make Virginia primary ballot, judge rules Lasher  Jan-13-12 04:36 PM   #0 
  - I guess the chances of Romney and Paul in the Virginia primary are pretty good.  No Elephants   Jan-13-12 05:00 PM   #1 
     - I think both of them are dumb as a bag of hammers.  Lasher   Jan-13-12 05:45 PM   #2 
        - Both of them have run before and both have enough money to hire staff who know the ropes.  No Elephants   Jan-13-12 09:57 PM   #3 
           - Well there was that thing back in June when all of Newt's staff resigned.  Lasher   Jan-13-12 11:12 PM   #4 
              - Which indicates to me that the he hired the wrong batch twice.  No Elephants   Jan-14-12 10:25 AM   #5 
                 - I bow to your superior logic.  Lasher   Jan-14-12 11:25 AM   #6 
                    - Geez. No need to bow.  No Elephants   Jan-14-12 02:34 PM   #7 
                       - I have been thinking for awhile now that I need to spend more time on an actual life, sans internet.  Lasher   Jan-14-12 02:57 PM   #8 
                          - You can make a difference by working for local candidates.  Rhiannon12866   Jan-15-12 02:09 AM   #9 
                             - All my representatives are Democrats.  Lasher   Jan-15-12 08:48 AM   #10 
                             - To quote Bubba, "I feel your pain."  No Elephants   Jan-15-12 11:19 AM   #11 
                             - You can make a bigger difference if you choose the local candidates or run yourself.  No Elephants   Jan-15-12 11:38 AM   #12 

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